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Post by CB1883 on Nov 3, 2013 19:18:19 GMT
We still deserve an answer as to why the board thought it would be a good idea to sack Gannon and replace him with a manager who had never heard of Stockport County before and knew nothing about what was needed to get us out the situation we were in.
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Post by someoneelse on Nov 3, 2013 19:23:46 GMT
I was talking about this the other day.
In the RM interview on CBS, I think it's possible to read into the answer where I brought up JG/DK.
What he doesn't do is defend it.
Unlike pretty much every other issue I brought up where he did defend it.
My guess is he knows he f*cked up, but there's also a part of him which resents the fact he's the Number 1 target regarding that situation. Snape and Fearn should have been stronger and played it safer but they didn't, and now RM gets all the stick for it. Perhaps deservedly so.
But like I say, the fact he didn't really try to get into the DK thing suggests to me at least, that he knows there's no point going into and he probably knows it was a big mistake to make so early on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 19:45:15 GMT
But like I say, the fact he didn't really try to get into the DK thing suggests to me at least, that he knows there's no point going into and he probably knows it was a big mistake to make so early on. as big as pulling an elephant out of a hat
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Post by CB1883 on Nov 3, 2013 19:56:31 GMT
I was talking about this the other day. In the RM interview on CBS, I think it's possible to read into the answer where I brought up JG/DK. What he doesn't do is defend it. Unlike pretty much every other issue I brought up where he did defend it. My guess is he knows he fxxxed up, but there's also a part of him which resents the fact he's the Number 1 target regarding that situation. Snape and Fearn should have been stronger and played it safer but they didn't, and now RM gets all the stick for it. Perhaps deservedly so. But like I say, the fact he didn't really try to get into the DK thing suggests to me at least, that he knows there's no point going into and he probably knows it was a big mistake to make so early on. I don't even blame McKnight for it. My blame lies at the door of Snape. McKnight is out of his depth, but he's at least trying. He may be a bit naive in his thinking/decisions but at least he's giving it a go.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 20:29:45 GMT
Clearly it was snape who got rid of Gannon. I think snape turned fearn against Gannon and once he was on snapes side it was just a case of waiting for the right moment.
Gannon presented that with the bad run of results culminating in the home defeat to Mansfield, which with hindsight wasn't as bad as it looked as they turned out to be the best team in the league.
The issue I have with McKnight is he brought Dave in, he didn't have a bleedin clue and he took a massive punt with Stockport County to try and make a name for himself.
Therefore he is a TW&T.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 20:36:47 GMT
Replacing Gannon with the man from the Balkans was car crash management but perhaps it all comes right in the end as Lords ability SO FAR to work with players of all ages puts him in with a chance of being successful here in the longer term, which at the end of the day is all important.
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Post by vicar on Nov 4, 2013 8:20:14 GMT
Replacing Gannon with the man from the Balkans was car crash management but perhaps it all comes right in the end as Lords ability SO FAR to work with players of all ages puts him in with a chance of being successful here in the longer term, which at the end of the day is all important. There's an obvious dig at Jim there, Lordy's working well with what he's got but he's already dropped Hand and Craney and they're 2 of the older players so perhaps he's not too dissimilar to Jim.
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Post by Britannia on Nov 4, 2013 9:08:31 GMT
If we were all in a similar position only Luton would attract more than us, if we'd started this season well we'd be getting more than Wrexham and Grimsby a division below them or not. Agreed, just another highlight of how loyal the fans have been
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Post by Britannia on Nov 4, 2013 9:13:42 GMT
I was talking about this the other day. In the RM interview on CBS, I think it's possible to read into the answer where I brought up JG/DK. What he doesn't do is defend it. Unlike pretty much every other issue I brought up where he did defend it. My guess is he knows he fxxxed up, but there's also a part of him which resents the fact he's the Number 1 target regarding that situation. Snape and Fearn should have been stronger and played it safer but they didn't, and now RM gets all the stick for it. Perhaps deservedly so. But like I say, the fact he didn't really try to get into the DK thing suggests to me at least, that he knows there's no point going into and he probably knows it was a big mistake to make so early on. I think it was L*rd Sn*pe who probably pushed the button on Gannon, you could see that coming with the interviews and lack of budget, I think RM comes in to it when it came to Darius' arrival and so part of the blame should rest on his shoulders that. That said I think there are more culprits than just RM to have the blame apportioned to, but as head honcho he is in the firing line.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 9:50:14 GMT
Replacing Gannon with the man from the Balkans was car crash management but perhaps it all comes right in the end as Lords ability SO FAR to work with players of all ages puts him in with a chance of being successful here in the longer term, which at the end of the day is all important. There's an obvious dig at Jim there, Lordy's working well with what he's got but he's already dropped Hand and Craney and they're 2 of the older players so perhaps he's not too dissimilar to Jim. No dig intended at the manager who led the team to one of the more successful periods in our recent history. I'm always cool towards any manager returning to a club unless they perhaps left for something better and it did not work out. Too much personal baggage from day 1 from officials and directors tend to emphasize the negative aspects, waiting for the obvious, and they become an incident waiting to happen. As for commenting on this, every manager has his strengths and weaknesses and not being honest about them always becomes the problem
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Post by vicar on Nov 4, 2013 12:20:08 GMT
Maybe they've learned from their mistakes, not that they'd ever admit it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 14:08:16 GMT
Maybe they've learned from their mistakes, not that they'd ever admit it. It's a sad strand of truth that a club like ours would gain immensely (perhaps survive) by being upfront and open about the past saying we have made honest mistakes, hindsight being a wonderful thing,etc and trying to get things right in the future. This very difficult job would then appear to more of partnership. Can't see it happening.
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