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Post by 3330 on Jun 28, 2021 15:31:36 GMT
Yeah fair play to Wimbledon. But it’s tiny. We need to be thinking much bigger than that. Is 9.3K tiny? I think they've go it about right, with 2 of the stands temporary so that they can easily build something more permanent and bigger when the time comes. Agreed it would be good to have bigger than we have (10800) but my point is we don't need the extra land to achieve that goal especially if that land is not available or too expensive (If it becomes available then Brilliant) What could be achieved with the land footprint we have now has been done to death on here.... but it is achievable |
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Post by CB1883 on Jun 28, 2021 17:28:55 GMT
What would the point be in redeveloping if we’re going to go backwards in ground capacity? Am I the only one missing that logic?
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Post by Durango95 on Jun 28, 2021 17:43:34 GMT
No. I do worry sometimes. We need to be looking to
increase to 16-18,000 in line with the Championship plan. Grow bigger not smaller!
We almost filled the home ends in the part time North on several occasions.
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Post by 3330 on Jun 28, 2021 17:53:36 GMT
What would the point be in redeveloping if we’re going to go backwards in ground capacity? Am I the only one missing that logic? Not sure if you are quoting my post... but i think we could easily redevelop upgrade EP to a higher capacity with the land footprint we have...using Wimbledon as an example... they they have plonked a stadium in a 5.5 acre footprint in the middle of a residential area with the potential to extend to 20000 capacity if needed...i am not suggesting a flat pack stadium or demolishing the main stand just an observation that it has been done and is doable on a restricted site like EP |
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Post by Durango95 on Jun 28, 2021 17:55:25 GMT
Brentford’s new ground is more of an example there.
Can do anything with the right people and money.
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Post by 3330 on Jun 28, 2021 17:59:52 GMT
Brentford’s new ground is more of an example there. Can do anything with the right people and money. Yes... a better example ....if the land is unavailable use what we have |
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Post by mattyovrio on Jun 28, 2021 18:06:23 GMT
Plenty of space at Pop Side to expand capacity as well as extending sound to next to the Moan Stand when they redo RE
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Post by timberwolf on Jun 29, 2021 8:09:53 GMT
No. I do worry sometimes. We need to be looking to increase to 16-18,000 in line with the Championship plan. Grow bigger not smaller! We almost filled the home ends in the part time North on several occasions. we only got big attendances back then in important games really and with a winning team. if we are doing well next season i cannot see more than 6 to 7 thousand home fans in EP for a notts county type of game on a saturday. even with promotion to the league and momentum of saying two back to back promotions to the championship we,d only get a five figure home crowd with a local derby. just do not know where these thousands of new fans are going to come from who desert their present clubs or start watching football just to come to EP. |
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Post by ancienthatter on Jun 29, 2021 8:26:52 GMT
I think a 12,000 seat capacity would be fine for what we can expect. When we were in the Championship I think it was rare we got more than 9,000. There is probably little to be gained by stretching the main stand to the length of the pitch and the Railway End is almost always going to be big enough for the away following. But I would love to see the pop side redeveloped as a decent family stand and I would expect the capacity in that stand to be capable of being doubled without too much imagination.
The other thing that needs some serious thought is the corporate entertaining at matches. It always seems a bit bizarre to see them all trooping out of the Cheadle end to walk to the main stand. That definitely needs rethinking. Other than that, Edgeley Park is without doubt the best football ground in the World 😜
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Post by suedehead on Jun 29, 2021 8:39:05 GMT
I think a 12,000 seat capacity would be fine for what we can expect. When we were in the Championship I think it was rare we got more than 9,000. There is probably little to be gained by stretching the main stand to the length of the pitch and the Railway End is almost always going to be big enough for the away following. But I would love to see the pop side redeveloped as a decent family stand and I would expect the capacity in that stand to be capable of being doubled without too much imagination. The other thing that needs some serious thought is the corporate entertaining at matches. It always seems a bit bizarre to see them all trooping out of the Cheadle end to walk to the main stand. That definitely needs rethinking. Other than that, Edgeley Park is without doubt the best football ground in the World 😜 Attendances across the board, and particularly away followings, are very different from what they were 20 years ago. Other than maybe 4/5 teams in Division One we rarely had sold out away ends at EP and even big clubs like West Brom, Reading, Norwich failed to bring 1000 for games. I bet next season, even at this level, we’ll have several games where we have sold out away ends, and certainly more than 1000 away fans. If we were back in the Championship in August we could expect a good number of games where we’d see 2500-3000 away fans. And don’t forget our home attendances have been rising year on year too, or they were under Jim anyway. We were getting over 5000 (in some cases over 6000) in the NLN. If we get into L1 in 2/3 years, and so have a decent period of success, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think we’d be routinely getting 7500/8000 home fans most weeks. We’re already at a capacity of 10500, increasing that to 12000 doesn’t seem worth the work and looks a bit short sighted and at odds with our plan to be in the Championship. |
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Post by timberwolf on Jun 29, 2021 9:32:34 GMT
Attendances across the board, and particularly away followings, are very different from what they were 20 years ago. Other than maybe 4/5 teams in Division One we rarely had sold out away ends at EP and even big clubs like West Brom, Reading, Norwich failed to bring 1000 for games. I bet next season, even at this level, we’ll have several games where we have sold out away ends, and certainly more than 1000 away fans. although the club would lose out with a full EP with fans unable to get a ticket the atmosphere would be far better than having a ground to accomodate everyone that would apart from the odd game be nowhere near full. EP was certainly not rocking in the bad old days of sub 2,000 fans on a tuesday night. somehow the club has to decide what a realistic average crowd level will be and base any ground improvement on this. there are some like me and anciant who,d be happy with a neat and tidy 12,000 capacity whilst others want a 20,000 EP. a lot of this thinking is possibly where we see County in the future. some may see us as a new bournemouth or brentford but somehow rotherham and doncaster are really closer to my expectations. |
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Post by suedehead on Jun 29, 2021 9:35:56 GMT
Attendances across the board, and particularly away followings, are very different from what they were 20 years ago. Other than maybe 4/5 teams in Division One we rarely had sold out away ends at EP and even big clubs like West Brom, Reading, Norwich failed to bring 1000 for games. I bet next season, even at this level, we’ll have several games where we have sold out away ends, and certainly more than 1000 away fans. although the club would lose out with a full EP with fans unable to get a ticket the atmosphere would be far better than having a ground to accomodate everyone that would apart from the odd game be nowhere near full. EP was certainly not rocking in the bad old days of sub 2,000 fans on a tuesday night. somehow the club has to decide what a realistic average crowd level will be and base any ground improvement on this. there are some like me and anciant who,d be happy with a neat and tidy 12,000 capacity whilst others want a 20,000 EP. a lot of this thinking is possibly where we see County in the future. some may see us as a new bournemouth or brentford but somehow rotherham and doncaster are really closer to my expectations. I don't think we need to go straight into 20k territory, that could kill any atmosphere. I think an incremental approach of increasing to 14k-ish with scope to take that up to 18k-20k over the next 10 years would be sensible. I also think it's absolutely inevitable that we will be having a named stadium fairly soon too, something like the Vita Stadium. |
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Post by advent on Jun 29, 2021 9:39:59 GMT
although the club would lose out with a full EP with fans unable to get a ticket the atmosphere would be far better than having a ground to accomodate everyone that would apart from the odd game be nowhere near full. EP was certainly not rocking in the bad old days of sub 2,000 fans on a tuesday night. somehow the club has to decide what a realistic average crowd level will be and base any ground improvement on this. there are some like me and anciant who,d be happy with a neat and tidy 12,000 capacity whilst others want a 20,000 EP. a lot of this thinking is possibly where we see County in the future. some may see us as a new bournemouth or brentford but somehow rotherham and doncaster are really closer to my expectations. I don't think we need to go straight into 20k territory, that could kill any atmosphere. I think an incremental approach of increasing to 14k-ish with scope to take that up to 18k-20k over the next 10 years would be sensible. I also think it's absolutely inevitable that we will be having a named stadium fairly soon too, something like the Vita Stadium. He cant rename something he doesnt own can he, or can he? |
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Post by suedehead on Jun 29, 2021 9:42:47 GMT
I don't think we need to go straight into 20k territory, that could kill any atmosphere. I think an incremental approach of increasing to 14k-ish with scope to take that up to 18k-20k over the next 10 years would be sensible. I also think it's absolutely inevitable that we will be having a named stadium fairly soon too, something like the Vita Stadium. He cant rename something he doesnt own can he, or can he? You wouldn't think he'd be able to do extensive work to something he doesn't own either, but he has. I think it's just a matter of time before he/Vita/some holding group own EP and I think it's inevitable it'll officially have a sponsored name. |
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Post by advent on Jun 29, 2021 9:48:16 GMT
He cant rename something he doesnt own can he, or can he? You wouldn't think he'd be able to do extensive work to something he doesn't own either, but he has. I think it's just a matter of time before he/Vita/some holding group own EP and I think it's inevitable it'll officially have a sponsored name. Its absolutely on the cards thats for sure, at least it doesnt sound as bad as the kitkat stadium or mornflake stadium |
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