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Post by Count de Stockport on Apr 1, 2023 7:36:13 GMT
And it's all great... Really...admirable. And I totally get it. Left winger hand-wringing about their left wing party not being perfect. But DO NOT COME ON HERE WHINGING ABOUT HOW BAD THINGS ARE IN 4 YEARS if the Tories get back in and you had a chance to seal the deal to avoid that scenario. That's all. The very fact that you are on here writing all this utter claptrap reinforces the view that I've always had that the Tories know PRECISELY how to play this game. And they're beating you with it once again. By the way...I wanted Corbyn. But hey, life's a complete f*cking shithouse. Then you get another 20 years of Tory, and die. Knowing that at least you didn't fold and vote for that bloke Starmer. Shrug. I’ll whinge all I like, regardless of who I vote for 😊 It’s not democracy unless someone’s whinging
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Post by timberwolf on Apr 1, 2023 8:07:46 GMT
By the way...I wanted Corbyn. But hey, life's a complete f*cking shithouse. Then you get another 20 years of Tory, and die. Knowing that at least you didn't fold and vote for that bloke Starmer. Shrug. Someone like corbyn and his policies are wanted by lifelong labour votors. However it needed someone like blair to get rid of the tories for 13 years. Those who want a corbyn type will never get there way as they would be fighting the MSM from day 1 and many still believe it. If people feel that bad about the tories they need to get behind starmer as its their only choice.
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Post by bigmartin on Apr 1, 2023 9:50:35 GMT
And it's all great... Really...admirable. And I totally get it. Left winger hand-wringing about their left wing party not being perfect. But DO NOT COME ON HERE WHINGING ABOUT HOW BAD THINGS ARE IN 4 YEARS if the Tories get back in and you had a chance to seal the deal to avoid that scenario. That's all. The very fact that you are on here writing all this utter claptrap reinforces the view that I've always had that the Tories know PRECISELY how to play this game. And they're beating you with it once again. By the way...I wanted Corbyn. But hey, life's a complete f*cking shithouse. Then you get another 20 years of Tory, and die. Knowing that at least you didn't fold and vote for that bloke Starmer. Shrug. I’ll whinge all I like, regardless of who I vote for 😊 It’s not democracy unless someone’s whinging Ditto. I'm tired of hearing Lefties whining because their guy in charge is less than their perfect ideal, whilst right wingers argue amongst themselves whilst in the innumerably stronger position of holding all our destinies in their dirty, grubby, grifting, hands. We'll never win again. The Right will galvanise (it's already beginning). The left will fall apart (it's already beginning). It's how it's always been, apart from that small decade of hope in the 90s/00s. If required there'll be a little nudge from MSM in a couple of years to seal the deal.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Apr 1, 2023 10:10:54 GMT
Anyone who promises to get Pete Tong to stop pluralising “Ninja Tunes” gets my vote.
I may be in a niche interest group.
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Post by bigmartin on Apr 2, 2023 7:46:13 GMT
By the way...I wanted Corbyn. But hey, life's a complete f*cking shithouse. Then you get another 20 years of Tory, and die. Knowing that at least you didn't fold and vote for that bloke Starmer. Shrug. Someone like corbyn and his policies are wanted by lifelong labour votors. However it needed someone like blair to get rid of the tories for 13 years. Those who want a corbyn type will never get there way as they would be fighting the MSM from day 1 and many still believe it. If people feel that bad about the tories they need to get behind starmer as its their only choice. I totally agree with you. We need to get these out. Simple as that. It's just not right that these crooks are in power. If there was a more moderate Conservative party, like a gang with proper fiscal responsibility and sensible policy rather than this pseudo-Trumpian outfit they've now become, I could stomach losing the next General Election. But this bunch of...ffff...f*cking psychopaths. I don't think I could stand another four, eight, twelve years of them (not that I have any choice). Jesus, they don't even look after my financial interests anymore and that used to be the thing that kept me sane.
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Post by canterbury on Apr 2, 2023 14:45:33 GMT
The outlook appears terrible for the Tories because they're not just behind in the polls overall, crucially they're also losing on home turf. When more than 7 in 10 people don't think they're the better option to handle the economy they look finished. Meanwhile on handling Crime they're not just lagging behind the Labour Party but the "Don't Know" Party has now relegated them into third. This is from Feb but shows the gap between Tory priorities and what people feel really matters to their life, while they try and create a big hoo-ha about stopping boats, opinion has moved on - these days three in every four people are more concerned on what the hell's happening to our once proud economy.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Apr 2, 2023 15:48:45 GMT
The outlook appears terrible for the Tories because they're not just behind in the polls overall, crucially they're also losing on home turf. When more than 7 in 10 people don't think they're the better option to handle the economy they look finished. Meanwhile on handling Crime they're not just lagging behind the Labour Party but the "Don't Know" Party has now relegated them into third. This is from Feb but shows the gap between Tory priorities and what people feel really matters to their life, while they try and create a big hoo-ha about stopping boats, opinion has moved on - these days three in every four people are more concerned on what the hell's happening to our once proud economy. I wonder if the great lie about the Tories being good for the economy (they never have been) is finally breaking
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Post by edjelley on Apr 2, 2023 17:29:50 GMT
The outlook appears terrible for the Tories because they're not just behind in the polls overall, crucially they're also losing on home turf. When more than 7 in 10 people don't think they're the better option to handle the economy they look finished. Meanwhile on handling Crime they're not just lagging behind the Labour Party but the "Don't Know" Party has now relegated them into third. This is from Feb but shows the gap between Tory priorities and what people feel really matters to their life, while they try and create a big hoo-ha about stopping boats, opinion has moved on - these days three in every four people are more concerned on what the hell's happening to our once proud economy. Good
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Post by bigmartin on Apr 2, 2023 18:29:03 GMT
The outlook appears terrible for the Tories because they're not just behind in the polls overall, crucially they're also losing on home turf. When more than 7 in 10 people don't think they're the better option to handle the economy they look finished. Meanwhile on handling Crime they're not just lagging behind the Labour Party but the "Don't Know" Party has now relegated them into third. This is from Feb but shows the gap between Tory priorities and what people feel really matters to their life, while they try and create a big hoo-ha about stopping boats, opinion has moved on - these days three in every four people are more concerned on what the hell's happening to our once proud economy. What I've been saying for years - This is the big "when they came for...". And the middle classes f*cking hate that it's them, as well as "that lot" getting shafted. It'll all turn round though. Nation of serfs. We'll do as we're told when it comes to matter.
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Post by mattyovrio on Apr 2, 2023 19:39:47 GMT
The outlook appears terrible for the Tories because they're not just behind in the polls overall, crucially they're also losing on home turf. When more than 7 in 10 people don't think they're the better option to handle the economy they look finished. Meanwhile on handling Crime they're not just lagging behind the Labour Party but the "Don't Know" Party has now relegated them into third. This is from Feb but shows the gap between Tory priorities and what people feel really matters to their life, while they try and create a big hoo-ha about stopping boats, opinion has moved on - these days three in every four people are more concerned on what the hell's happening to our once proud economy. What I've been saying for years - This is the big "when they came for...". And the middle classes f*cking hate that it's them, as well as "that lot" getting shafted. It'll all turn round though. Nation of serfs. We'll do as we're told when it comes to matter. I fear you may be right - punk rock is now looking like a mere ripple. But you never know. The young uns are getting só shafted by the crusties that we might yet see generational conflict
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Post by bigmartin on Apr 2, 2023 21:07:56 GMT
What I've been saying for years - This is the big "when they came for...". And the middle classes f*cking hate that it's them, as well as "that lot" getting shafted. It'll all turn round though. Nation of serfs. We'll do as we're told when it comes to matter. I fear you may be right - punk rock is now looking like a mere ripple. But you never know. The young uns are getting só shafted by the crusties that we might yet see generational conflict Brace yourselves! Bribes are coming (I couldn't find the Sean Bean image which I would have put good money on there being out in the cyberworld)...
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Post by timberwolf on Apr 3, 2023 7:18:34 GMT
The one i,ll never get is that the tories are good for the economy. Would love to see the facts of this where the average person in the street is concerned. I for one have never seen my lifestyle improve when they are in power and its never them when things go wrong but the previous labour regime or an international situation they cannot control.
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Post by vicar on Apr 3, 2023 7:50:33 GMT
The one i,ll never get is that the tories are good for the economy. Would love to see the facts of this where the average person in the street is concerned. I for one have never seen my lifestyle improve when they are in power and its never them when things go wrong but the previous labour regime or an international situation they cannot control. They inherited a national debt of £800billion from Labour following the global crash which was according to them Labours fault, they more than doubled that debt to £2trillion before the pandemic despite inflicting austerity on us, now their brexit and it is theirs is costing us a further £100billion a year.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Apr 3, 2023 13:02:02 GMT
The outlook appears terrible for the Tories because they're not just behind in the polls overall, crucially they're also losing on home turf. When more than 7 in 10 people don't think they're the better option to handle the economy they look finished. Meanwhile on handling Crime they're not just lagging behind the Labour Party but the "Don't Know" Party has now relegated them into third. This is from Feb but shows the gap between Tory priorities and what people feel really matters to their life, while they try and create a big hoo-ha about stopping boats, opinion has moved on - these days three in every four people are more concerned on what the hell's happening to our once proud economy. I wonder if the great lie about the Tories being good for the economy (they never have been) is finally breaking For at least one generation, hopefully
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Post by Count de Stockport on Apr 3, 2023 13:07:27 GMT
What I've been saying for years - This is the big "when they came for...". And the middle classes f*cking hate that it's them, as well as "that lot" getting shafted. It'll all turn round though. Nation of serfs. We'll do as we're told when it comes to matter. I fear you may be right - punk rock is now looking like a mere ripple. But you never know. The young uns are getting só shafted by the crusties that we might yet see generational conflict I'm reading this while sat next to a 30yo punk And I hope the crusties don't get blamed for the 1%'s shafting activities
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