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Post by oakwoodbank on Jul 16, 2020 20:12:24 GMT
It is very noticeable from the renewed football activity (Premier League) that players are still disposing of nasal and oral excretions onto the pitch. This must be a possible health problem (especially in the present circumstances) for any player on the same pitch as there is no way of avoiding contact with such matter whenever players go to ground in the 'fall out' areas.
There are no obvious football rules which apply to this behaviour and therefore the officials are unable to take any action.
I would suggest that a regulation be imposed by the football authorities, backed by the government if necesary that for every infringement of such a rule by any player or staff, that the club should be fined £100 for each breach. That ought to get the clubs to stop their players from this uneccssary and revolting habit.
I believe that some local authorities have bylaws about spitting in the street.
After all, why can't the player just swallow it?
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Post by Bredburyhatter on Jul 16, 2020 20:55:20 GMT
After all, why can't the player just swallow it? I can't answer that, but I dont think it's because they are dirty pigs. I guess there is a reason why people competing in active sport do spit. Sure someone on here will have an answer to it.
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Post by Fez on Jul 16, 2020 21:11:32 GMT
You also see it in rugby and other sports. And long distance runners hurl out spit and snot rockets all the time. According to www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/why-do-football-players-spit-so-much/ ... "Several studies have shown that exercise increases the amount of protein secreted into the saliva, especially a kind of mucus called MUC5B. This mucus makes the saliva thicker, which makes it harder to swallow, so we spit it out." Some sports like tennis and basketball ban spitting. And for good reason - can you imagine phlegm all over a basketball court? But I suppose they have a few more opportunities for drinks breaks. I think it's frowned on in snooker as well. : )
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Post by desmond on Jul 16, 2020 21:43:19 GMT
Talking of Bio Security I see Jordan Archer blotted his copybook by driving from the Southampton test to Manchester via his home in Brighton.
At least he made the team selection a bit easier.
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Post by slomasscfc on Jul 16, 2020 21:59:36 GMT
Jofra Archer, Jordan Archer was the pony striker we had on loan halfway through last season
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Post by ebbs on Jul 16, 2020 22:48:08 GMT
The body naturally produces excretions in many forms. Spitting is a way of excreting excesses from the lungs caused by physical activity. Swallowing it would just be horrible.
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Post by Mozzer on Jul 17, 2020 6:58:40 GMT
Jofra Archer, Jordan Archer was the pony striker we had on loan halfway through last season No wonder we lost the first bloody Test match.
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Post by oakwoodbank on Jul 17, 2020 7:46:14 GMT
The body naturally produces excretions in many forms. Spitting is a way of excreting excesses from the lungs caused by physical activity. Swallowing it would just be horrible. Just to put the record staight about swallowing phlegm as opposed to just saliva, here is a full note which I am placing here rather than just a link. I will probably post a separate post on swallowing saliva, although I cannot believe that there are doubts about the safety or otherwise of this as we all do it constantly. Contrary to a number of regional beliefs, swallowing phlegm is not harmful to the human body in anyway. This is because once it has found its way into the stomach; the digestive juices present in the stomach serve to destroy any infections that may still be alive at this point. The aversion to swallowing the mucus is more of a personal one with some choosing to spit it out while others choose to swallow the phlegm. A lot also has to do with the kind of environment one is in at the time. For example, if you are in a plush and exquisite public place or gathering, it is unlikely that you will want to spit out the phlegm as it will not be seen as socially appropriate. However, were you alone in a bathroom, then spitting out the infection with the phlegm would be advisable - but again, the swallowing alternative is not harmful in anyway. It helps to know that the stomach lining is replaced every week, thereby laying to rest any type of stress that you might endure because of being unsure about the effects that ingesting the phlegm might have on a more long term basis. The stomach acids register at a value of about pH 4 - making them very strong and definitely concentrated enough to kill the infection in the ingested phlegm.
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Post by Mozzer on Jul 17, 2020 7:51:20 GMT
I don't think it's that it's unhealthy, it's that it gets produced to excess when you are doing strenuous exercise and that expelling it rather than ingesting it is significantly easier, particularly in the midst of that exercise.
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Post by oakwoodbank on Jul 17, 2020 8:04:17 GMT
OK — Here is the information regarding the spitting out of saliva (as opposed to mucus from the lungs - which I have mentined above). QUOTEProject Restart Latest: Players Warned Over Spitting Habit www.90min.com/posts/project-restart-latest-players-warned-over-spitting-habits-ed-woodward-calls-out-relegation-rebels-more-01e9wm6hyznz#:~:text=Players%20regularly%20spit%20while%20out%20on%20the%20pitch%2C,sessions%2C%20as%20they%20attempt%20to%20clear%20their%20airways. There are many concerns for health officials regarding football's restart, as players could spread the virus to one other in a number of different ways during training or matches. But one action which is causing plenty of headaches is spitting. Players regularly spit while out on the pitch, and the same goes during their workouts or training sessions, as they attempt to clear their airways. [But that is mucous not saliva] But this goes against the new rules put in place to avoid the possible spreading of the coronavirus, and the Mirror reports that Premier League has sent inspectors to training grounds up and down the country, to check these new laws are being enforced and respected. Several clubs have been warned by these inspectors to stop their players from spitting, even if they do it through habit, rather than intentionally flouting the rules. ----- Just a point of my own here. Some are suggesting that during the match a player's mouth may get dry. If the mouth is dry, how can there be a need to spit out saliva when it probably has dried out in the mouth? I may be wrong here but I believe that drinks bottles are at the touch line for payers to get a quick drink if their mouth is dry. Also, now that games are being played in the summer months, there are drinks breaks for all. Spitting out of saliva is a habit and may have some 'emotional' significance which will not be punished if the player's intent is abusive. On a private note —when I was refereeing, I reckon I ran about at least as much of the players and yet found no need to spit (not even to wet the lead of my pencil!)
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 17, 2020 8:11:36 GMT
need to put spitoons all round the pitch. another good money earner if they were sponsored. kenny b could then spot the player spitting and say something on the tannoy like, adam thomas has just spit in the spitoon sponsored by------.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 14:58:00 GMT
OK — Here is the information regarding the spitting out of saliva (as opposed to mucus from the lungs - which I have mentined above). QUOTEProject Restart Latest: Players Warned Over Spitting Habit www.90min.com/posts/project-restart-latest-players-warned-over-spitting-habits-ed-woodward-calls-out-relegation-rebels-more-01e9wm6hyznz#:~:text=Players%20regularly%20spit%20while%20out%20on%20the%20pitch%2C,sessions%2C%20as%20they%20attempt%20to%20clear%20their%20airways. There are many concerns for health officials regarding football's restart, as players could spread the virus to one other in a number of different ways during training or matches. But one action which is causing plenty of headaches is spitting. Players regularly spit while out on the pitch, and the same goes during their workouts or training sessions, as they attempt to clear their airways. [But that is mucous not saliva] But this goes against the new rules put in place to avoid the possible spreading of the coronavirus, and the Mirror reports that Premier League has sent inspectors to training grounds up and down the country, to check these new laws are being enforced and respected. Several clubs have been warned by these inspectors to stop their players from spitting, even if they do it through habit, rather than intentionally flouting the rules. ----- Just a point of my own here. Some are suggesting that during the match a player's mouth may get dry. If the mouth is dry, how can there be a need to spit out saliva when it probably has dried out in the mouth? I may be wrong here but I believe that drinks bottles are at the touch line for payers to get a quick drink if their mouth is dry. Also, now that games are being played in the summer months, there are drinks breaks for all. Spitting out of saliva is a habit and may have some 'emotional' significance which will not be punished if the player's intent is abusive. On a private note —when I was refereeing, I reckon I ran about at least as much of the players and yet found no need to spit (not even to wet the lead of my pencil!) Have you ever played football?
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Post by oakwoodbank on Jul 18, 2020 7:07:38 GMT
I don't think it's that it's unhealthy, it's that it gets produced to excess when you are doing strenuous exercise and that expelling it rather than ingesting it is significantly easier, particularly in the midst of that exercise. Sorry, but physiologically, swallowing is easier than spitting. One action only. Spitting is several:- collecting the bolus, taking it to the front of the mouth, changing the shape of the mouth before energising the oral muscles to force the bolus out of the mouth. All of this requiring concentration which should be being used for other purposes.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 18, 2020 7:39:06 GMT
OK — Here is the information regarding the spitting out of saliva (as opposed to mucus from the lungs - which I have mentined above). QUOTEProject Restart Latest: Players Warned Over Spitting Habit www.90min.com/posts/project-restart-latest-players-warned-over-spitting-habits-ed-woodward-calls-out-relegation-rebels-more-01e9wm6hyznz#:~:text=Players%20regularly%20spit%20while%20out%20on%20the%20pitch%2C,sessions%2C%20as%20they%20attempt%20to%20clear%20their%20airways. There are many concerns for health officials regarding football's restart, as players could spread the virus to one other in a number of different ways during training or matches. But one action which is causing plenty of headaches is spitting. Players regularly spit while out on the pitch, and the same goes during their workouts or training sessions, as they attempt to clear their airways. [But that is mucous not saliva] But this goes against the new rules put in place to avoid the possible spreading of the coronavirus, and the Mirror reports that Premier League has sent inspectors to training grounds up and down the country, to check these new laws are being enforced and respected. Several clubs have been warned by these inspectors to stop their players from spitting, even if they do it through habit, rather than intentionally flouting the rules. ----- Just a point of my own here. Some are suggesting that during the match a player's mouth may get dry. If the mouth is dry, how can there be a need to spit out saliva when it probably has dried out in the mouth? I may be wrong here but I believe that drinks bottles are at the touch line for payers to get a quick drink if their mouth is dry. Also, now that games are being played in the summer months, there are drinks breaks for all. Spitting out of saliva is a habit and may have some 'emotional' significance which will not be punished if the player's intent is abusive. On a private note —when I was refereeing, I reckon I ran about at least as much of the players and yet found no need to spit (not even to wet the lead of my pencil!) Have you ever played football? OK. I played football from 11-15. Combative central defender. I've also played Rugby (hooker). And a bit of cricket also as a youth. I can't recall ever spitting. Never needed to. Always found it something that grubby little scrotes do. No horse to back in this particular race. But I'm not convinced it's "necessary" based on my own personal experience.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Jul 18, 2020 8:21:31 GMT
Never mind all this, why don't tennis players blow on their fingernails whilst waiting to receive a serve any more? Political correctness gone mad.
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