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Post by badgersc on Aug 3, 2020 18:53:57 GMT
, there’s also growing evidence that kids can spread it and examples of schools in various countries where whole classes or multiple kids have tested positive. So it depends which news you’re reading. thats been the problem from day 1. same with face masks. same with theatre closing till god knows when. the whole thing seems to depend on lobbies in certain sections and which behind the scene scientist is the flavour of the month. next thing will be a U turn regarding public transport which must be really strggling financially running empty. The government is picking up the shortfall for the train companies I believe
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Post by Cale Green Hatter on Aug 4, 2020 9:33:30 GMT
Reports going around that, for schools to reopen, we might have to close pubs again. For me, the 'problem' with pubs is having too many customers in. The four times I have been in a pub since July 4th, it was well regulated, socially distanced, etc. The horror stories are when customers are rammed inside or outside. Much The same as overcrowded beaches, large demonstrations, etc. The hospitality industry is one of the largest employers in the UK, and it needs at least some income. Some pubs are limiting customers to two hour slots. I'd be quite happy with that. It's been questioned further up the board whether Lobbying is the major reason that pubs are open again. Seeing the owner of Wetherspoons quaffing a few with Johnson, Patel and Gove makes it hard not to come to that conclusion but where is the point that lobbying becomes good old fashioned corruption? "Guided by the science" has been an overused cliche. It leads to an assumption that the evidence is wholly impartial however this is never the case. It is an opinion that is always open to interpretation. Who pays the piper names the tune (and also names the interpreter!). The hospitality industry is nothing to do with the people who work in it or the people who us it. It is all about the money.
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 4, 2020 10:33:57 GMT
The hospitality industry is nothing to do with the people who work in it or the people who us it. It is all about the money. the hospitality industry can be classed as a part of the tourism and leisure sector of the economy. pubs could be seen over the years as the weekest part of the sector with closures to traditional pubs on a regular basis. the whole industry has grown out of all proportions over the years and with the present virus and recession to follow quite a lot of it will go with redundancies being involved. was its growth sustainable anyway with the present situation showing how fragile it really is.
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Post by Cale Green Hatter on Aug 4, 2020 13:48:33 GMT
Back in 2012/13 Punch taverns, who were apparently £2bn in debt at the time had a process in place to flog off 500 pubs to Tesco Express and the like. One of them being our old local in Ipswich. The pub was the most popular on the west side of the town and was the envy of all the others. A cracking landlord, barstaff and clientele it was a place that created loads of happy memories. It was, however, in the wrong place and ripe for sale.
Planning permission went through on the nod (a group of us tried quite a few things to get it overturned) but at the end of the day the level of support from residents and politicians (both local and national) counted for nothing. Money talks and it became a Tesco Express.
A leisure industry needs people with disposable income to thrive, offer value for money and a loyalty to its customers. I feel about Punch in the same way that others do about Wetherspoons because there's no personal relationship.
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