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Post by suedehead on Aug 2, 2020 6:47:14 GMT
I disagree, did a good job getting them promotion but had serious spending power. But since they've been in the premier league he's spent big and badly wrong. The shame about that is he's actually tried to bring in the right kind of player too. He's not done what others have and shelled out on relegation journeymen, he tried to bring in young players who could develop like Jordon Ibe and Dominic Solanke but neither has worked out well. He made some decent signings too like Nathan Ake, Harry Wilson (on loan) but as you say, a lot haven't worked out as he'd have liked. Wasn't helped by arguably his best player in Ryan Fraser refusing to sign an extension at the end of June and being unavailable for all the post-lockdown games. Shame for Howe and shame for Bournemouth; always enjoyed seeing a small, lower league ground like Dean Court in the Premier League. David Brooks is another he did very well with too. He should really have had a job for life there. He took a team no bigger than us from the bottom of League Two to the Premier League in 6/7 years, and kept them up for four seasons. I said a few weeks ago that unless they have a transformative summer and are taken over and spend huge, they’ll be back in L1 probably before we are and I still think that’s the case. Howe needs to be careful with his next job as it could make or break him. It didn’t work out at Burnley for him.
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Post by BWScarf on Aug 2, 2020 8:31:17 GMT
In Premier League terms he’s not spent much. Probably one of the bottom spenders in the league. They’re the 11th-highest spenders in the five years they were in the Premier League. Their net spend is bigger than Liverpool’s. In that time they’ve finished 16th, 9th, 12th, 14th and 18th. So they’ve been about on par, if not slightly below, but what you’d roughly expect I think. Howe did a good job to get them there - I’m not sure anyone can take that away from him - but it was the right time to move on I think. Things had looked stale there, and as a club they’d started to annoy me. It was like they were playing up to the ‘plucky little Bournemouth’ thing, despite having spent many hundreds of millions of pounds.
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 2, 2020 8:40:39 GMT
Really don't know where he can go at moment....too early for him to be a pundit. Started off as a future England manager few seasons back but he'd be a fool to go somewhere like Newcastle watford.
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 2, 2020 8:44:37 GMT
funny was thinking that myself. was it curbushley who kept them in the prem against all odds. got eventually relegated, got rid of him and the rest as they say is history. at least burnley kept dyche when they went down and that seems to be working out for them.
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Post by vicar on Aug 2, 2020 11:10:02 GMT
I can see him going to someone like Villa or West Ham, both had disappointing seasons and will be looking for someone who knows the league and he fits the bill.
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Post by ValleyHatter on Aug 2, 2020 11:37:14 GMT
funny was thinking that myself. was it curbushley who kept them in the prem against all odds. got eventually relegated, got rid of him and the rest as they say is history. at least burnley kept dyche when they went down and that seems to be working out for them. Not quite true TW. Charlton went up to the Prem with Curbs in the play offs of '98 (Sunderland 4-4 game), then got relegated in their first season. Curbs stayed and took them straight back up as champions, where they stayed till 2007. Curbs left at the end of 2006. A common assumption/misconception is that Charlton sacked him, but he actually refused to sign a new contract offered to him, feeling he'd took the club as far as he could. Charlton then went down from the Prem the following season (06-07) with Pardew.
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Post by Imposter on Aug 2, 2020 12:25:09 GMT
funny was thinking that myself. was it curbushley who kept them in the prem against all odds. got eventually relegated, got rid of him and the rest as they say is history. at least burnley kept dyche when they went down and that seems to be working out for them. Not quite true TW. Charlton went up to the Prem with Curbs in the play offs of '98 (Sunderland 4-4 game), then got relegated in their first season. Curbs stayed and took them straight back up as champions, where they stayed till 2007. Curbs left at the end of 2006. A common assumption/misconception is that Charlton sacked him, but he actually refused to sign a new contract offered to him, feeling he'd took the club as far as he could. Charlton then went down from the Prem the following season (06-07) with Pardew. For comparison, aren't Burnley essentially at the second top-flight spell stage? Having gone up, come down, gone back up again?
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Post by ValleyHatter on Aug 2, 2020 12:46:35 GMT
Not quite true TW. Charlton went up to the Prem with Curbs in the play offs of '98 (Sunderland 4-4 game), then got relegated in their first season. Curbs stayed and took them straight back up as champions, where they stayed till 2007. Curbs left at the end of 2006. A common assumption/misconception is that Charlton sacked him, but he actually refused to sign a new contract offered to him, feeling he'd took the club as far as he could. Charlton then went down from the Prem the following season (06-07) with Pardew. For comparison, aren't Burnley essentially at the second top-flight spell stage? Having gone up, come down, gone back up again? I guess so. If/when Dyche leaves that is when Burnley could come a cropper. Charlton's replacements of Curbs were a disaster - Dowie, then Les Reed, then Pards. Let's hope Burnley do a similarly bad job when the time comes (ha ha).
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Post by Nik on Aug 2, 2020 12:56:53 GMT
I can see him going to someone like Villa or West Ham, both had disappointing seasons and will be looking for someone who knows the league and he fits the bill. Would you sack a manager who kept you up for a manager that got relegated though?
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Post by vicar on Aug 2, 2020 16:50:23 GMT
I can see him going to someone like Villa or West Ham, both had disappointing seasons and will be looking for someone who knows the league and he fits the bill. Would you sack a manager who kept you up for a manager that got relegated though? In this case yes, he's had Bournemouth punching well above their weight for years.
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