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Post by County1999 on Aug 11, 2020 13:20:32 GMT
I remember being in a spoons near Chorley station after the Chorley away match (the one in the sunshine which we lost, before spenny bailed us out the following week?) and there was a guy absolutely spitting mad about Jim. Called him 'an Irish c***'.... He had a few mates with him and looked absolutely terrifying so wasn't about to challenge him but it was tough to hear and just goes to show you will never please everyone, no matter what happens. Embarrassing. Imagine having that much rage over a person who, even before winning the title, had already done more for our club than anyone else in our history 😵
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Post by hedleyverity on Aug 11, 2020 13:33:44 GMT
There was a bloke on the train to Nuneaton slagging Gannon, couldn't be accused of being fickle I suppose
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 11, 2020 13:50:13 GMT
There was a bloke on the train to Nuneaton slagging Gannon, couldn't be accused of being fickle I suppose Bet he was gutted we scraped through that one
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Post by bobsplash on Aug 11, 2020 14:15:40 GMT
There seems to be no middle ground with Jim. You either love the bloke or want him out.
I enjoy sitting in the moan stand but it gets quite embarrassing at times, grown men shouting at Gannon because one of our players have misplaced a pass or something similar.
I’m always up for a good debate yet I have never encountered a single fan who has made a valid point as to why he shouldn’t be in charge.
The least the bloke deserves is a couple of years to get us back into the football league.
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Post by Duncan McOchin on Aug 11, 2020 18:40:45 GMT
I’m always up for a good debate yet I have never encountered a single fan who has made a valid point as to why he shouldn’t be in charge. I remember some fans took umbrage with the deal Gannon was on during his first spell*, whereby he took a percentage of transfer fees; they felt he was unduly taking money that should've been the club's. I can respect that position, though I wouldn't agree with it, because such a deal ensures that the manager only really profits if he produces players that are worth selling - something that no other County manager has achieved for a long time. *Don't know if he took similar deals in his 2nd and 3rd spells
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Post by Dids on Aug 11, 2020 18:50:14 GMT
It’s fairly common practice for managers to get similar incentives.
What’s the difference between the commercial manager getting a percentage of any business he brings into the club through sponsorship/corporate etc
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Post by desmond on Aug 11, 2020 19:54:28 GMT
I’m always up for a good debate yet I have never encountered a single fan who has made a valid point as to why he shouldn’t be in charge. I remember some fans took umbrage with the deal Gannon was on during his first spell*, whereby he took a percentage of transfer fees; they felt he was unduly taking money that should've been the club's. I can respect that position, though I wouldn't agree with it, because such a deal ensures that the manager only really profits if he produces players that are worth selling - something that no other County manager has achieved for a long time. *Don't know if he took similar deals in his 2nd and 3rd spells The thing that is wrong in those % deals is that a manager usually gets paid based on making a profit on an individual player sale (And doesn’t get penalised for loss making transfers) whereas it should really be based on any net profit/loss for sales over a full season. Of course it’s not the managers fault for accepting such a deal but it doesn’t really make commercial sense.
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Post by hedleyverity on Aug 11, 2020 20:07:12 GMT
Of course it’s not the managers fault for accepting such a deal but it doesn’t really make commercial sense. That would disincentive a manager from shipping a player out for a loss when it's the better thing to do all round than keeping them at the club though
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Post by desmond on Aug 11, 2020 21:35:16 GMT
Of course it’s not the managers fault for accepting such a deal but it doesn’t really make commercial sense. That would disincentive a manager from shipping a player out for a loss when it's the better thing to do all round than keeping them at the club though Possibly but otherwise it means a manager is getting reward on a one sided basis. And as the game is results orientated do we really believe a manager would keep a player that’s not performing so he can get a bonus....doing so could see them lose games and he his job.
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Post by hedleyverity on Aug 12, 2020 5:11:11 GMT
[quote source="/And as the game is results orientated do we really believe a manager would keep a player that’s not performing so he can get a bonus....doing so could see them lose games and he his job. The sort of manager who signs players in the first place on the basis of how big a bung they get might
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 12, 2020 8:24:02 GMT
just wondered if danny and dave jones also had a section of the crowd that wanted them out of County like jim has. know there was a bit of discontent with jones before that plymouth game but there was reasons for that with our early results.
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Post by vicar on Aug 12, 2020 8:41:34 GMT
just wondered if danny and dave jones also had a section of the crowd that wanted them out of County like jim has. know there was a bit of discontent with jones before that plymouth game but there was reasons for that with our early results. I remember a bloke at Exeter trying to start a "Bergara Out" chant, it lasted about 2 seconds, Jim's problem was his deal was under the trust and too much of the detail was leaked and when it all went wrong there was a lot of blame shifting. Most have moved on now and the anti Jim minority is dwindling.
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Post by Nik on Aug 12, 2020 9:29:24 GMT
Agree with all the thoughts on the Main Stand abuse he receives; arguably the greatest manager the club has had and some still absolutely refuse to put aside their personal dislike of the guy. What more can he do to prove himself as a very capable and successful manager?
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Post by banky on Aug 12, 2020 9:41:10 GMT
Agree with all the thoughts on the Main Stand abuse he receives; arguably the greatest manager the club has had and some still absolutely refuse to put aside their personal dislike of the guy. What more can he do to prove himself as a very capable and successful manager? I’ve never seen anything to suggest he isn’t a very nice man as well.
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Post by Josh on Aug 12, 2020 9:54:51 GMT
Agree with all the thoughts on the Main Stand abuse he receives; arguably the greatest manager the club has had and some still absolutely refuse to put aside their personal dislike of the guy. What more can he do to prove himself as a very capable and successful manager? The odd time I've sat in the Cheadle End, there are no shortage of oddballs shouting abuse at JG, same as there was when I was in there full time and some people were shouting dogs abuse at Dave Jones. But you know, Moan Stand....blah, blah.
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