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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Nov 8, 2020 16:47:08 GMT
I thought that too originally, but he has a whole YouTube channel with an intro and similar videos on other games - including some terrible reaction videos of him on the sofa with the camera upside down - from a quick scan! If it's a spoof account, it's serious commitment! EDIT - I've just delved a bit deeper and there are Fifa career mode videos over 5 months old, including some with 0 views! It's got to be genuine... 😵🤣 I'm not taking the piss any more and now feel sorry for him...
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Post by Imposter on Nov 8, 2020 17:23:00 GMT
Yeah, I think there isn't much of a gap between L2 and NL. Just look at how the recently promoted teams are doing - Orient, Salford (though an anomaly), Barrow and Harrogate - all holding their own. On paper, the NL is the toughest league to get out of with only one automatic spot, so it looks to be a bit of choke point for clubs ''on the up''. If you get yourselves sorted and win promotion, you're very likely to stay up, at least in the short term. Not only are you likely to stay up, you're likely to go up again in fairly quick succession. Off the top of my head, Wycombe, Macclesfield, Barnet, Darlington, Carlisle, Oxford, Luton, Bristol Rovers, Yeovil, Burton,Fleetwood, Cheltenham, Tranmere, Crawley, all (I think) got promoted from League 2 within only 1-3 seasons after getting promoted from the Conference/National League. Looking at the teams hanging around the bottom end of League 2 hoping for two teams that are worse than them (e.g. Oldham), I'd say the top quarter/third of NL could survive in League 2. Obviously further down in like 8th place it would just be survival, but those at the top end could challenge for playoffs and promotion spots. Then you've probably got a group of borderline clubs further down towards mid-table in NL who might survive in League 2, or might not survive. Then the bottom third/half who definitely aren't good enough to survive. But from what I see there's no justification not to make it 3 up, 3 down, between NL and League 2.
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Post by desmond on Nov 8, 2020 17:24:31 GMT
Observations having not seen the full game and only this; Looked like a proper football league match! Brilliant result without Bennett as Reid looked very isolated but he also looked extremely lively and caused them all kinds of problems. C Jennings looked a lot more involved. Their floodlights are shit. Can’t argue with any of that, Reid looks to be a very useful signing. I also commented on the quality of the floodlights as once the 2nd half got going you could clearly notice the difference. Effectively the middle third of the pitch was much darker than the rest.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Nov 8, 2020 17:40:03 GMT
Yeah, I think there isn't much of a gap between L2 and NL. Just look at how the recently promoted teams are doing - Orient, Salford (though an anomaly), Barrow and Harrogate - all holding their own. On paper, the NL is the toughest league to get out of with only one automatic spot, so it looks to be a bit of choke point for clubs ''on the up''. If you get yourselves sorted and win promotion, you're very likely to stay up, at least in the short term. Not only are you likely to stay up, you're likely to go up again in fairly quick succession. Off the top of my head, Wycombe, Macclesfield, Barnet, Darlington, Carlisle, Oxford, Luton, Bristol Rovers, Yeovil, Burton,Fleetwood, Cheltenham, Tranmere, Crawley, all (I think) got promoted from League 2 within only 1-3 seasons after getting promoted from the Conference/National League. Looking at the cross hanging around the bottom end of League 2 hoping for two teams that are worse than them (e.g. Oldham), I'd say the top quarter/third of NL could survive in League 2. Obviously further down in like 8th place it would just be survival, but those at the top end could challenge for playoffs and promotion spots. Then you've probably got a group of borderline clubs further down towards mid-table in NL who might survive in League 2, or might not survive. Then the bottom third/half who definitely aren't good enough to survive. But from what I see there's no justification not to make it 3 up, 3 down, between NL and League 2. Not sure I'd go quite that far, but it's a very good point. I think the 2 up and even the reference to ''non-league'' is a relic; a throwback to a decade or more ago when teams at that level were not professional and full time, and you were likely to come up against painters and decorators. Though we have an excellent (ex-) teacher and lorry driver! I think there would be good justification to expand the league system - though I am biased! A drawback could be that the wages/costs would go up and price some of the smaller teams used to regional football out, but it's already going that way a little.
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Post by Lincoln Hatter on Nov 8, 2020 17:42:02 GMT
The sequel. Never known a person talk so fast but all of it be rubbish 🤣 Ha ha, a half n half scarf on his fireplace.. might even be Wrexham but couldn't quite see it properly. Top quality rant to match Lord Snape in his finest moment. Nah I think your being too forgiving. Definitely a United scarf and that clock on the wall looks like a united one too. Maybe Cantona 7?
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Post by Imposter on Nov 8, 2020 17:46:19 GMT
Not only are you likely to stay up, you're likely to go up again in fairly quick succession. Off the top of my head, Wycombe, Macclesfield, Barnet, Darlington, Carlisle, Oxford, Luton, Bristol Rovers, Yeovil, Burton,Fleetwood, Cheltenham, Tranmere, Crawley, all (I think) got promoted from League 2 within only 1-3 seasons after getting promoted from the Conference/National League. Looking at the cross hanging around the bottom end of League 2 hoping for two teams that are worse than them (e.g. Oldham), I'd say the top quarter/third of NL could survive in League 2. Obviously further down in like 8th place it would just be survival, but those at the top end could challenge for playoffs and promotion spots. Then you've probably got a group of borderline clubs further down towards mid-table in NL who might survive in League 2, or might not survive. Then the bottom third/half who definitely aren't good enough to survive. But from what I see there's no justification not to make it 3 up, 3 down, between NL and League 2. Not sure I'd go quite that far, but it's a very good point. I think the 2 up and even the reference to ''non-league'' is a relic; a throwback to a decade or more ago when teams at that level were not professional and full time, and you were likely to come up against painters and decorators. Though we have an excellent (ex-) teacher and lorry driver! I think there would be good justification to expand the league system - though I am biased! A drawback could be that the wages/costs would go up and price some of the smaller teams used to regional football out, but it's already going that way a little. It's non-League with a capital letter. Purely to distinguish between those in The (as in the original) Football League, and those not. It's similar reasons to why the FA is just the FA rather than having to be the English FA. It doesn't mean that teams in non-League aren't playing in a league at all. I think it's an important and historic distinction. Even now being a member of, getting into, or falling out of The League is a big thing. Bigger than most other promotions/relegations - bar possibly/probably a club being promoted to the top flight for the first time.
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Post by Imposter on Nov 8, 2020 17:47:50 GMT
Ha ha, a half n half scarf on his fireplace.. might even be Wrexham but couldn't quite see it properly. Top quality rant to match Lord Snape in his finest moment. Nah I think your being too forgiving. Definitely a United scarf and that clock on the wall looks like a united one too. Maybe Cantona 7? Is it not a half and half scarf from when Rochdale played Man Utd last season?
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Nov 8, 2020 17:55:48 GMT
Not sure I'd go quite that far, but it's a very good point. I think the 2 up and even the reference to ''non-league'' is a relic; a throwback to a decade or more ago when teams at that level were not professional and full time, and you were likely to come up against painters and decorators. Though we have an excellent (ex-) teacher and lorry driver! I think there would be good justification to expand the league system - though I am biased! A drawback could be that the wages/costs would go up and price some of the smaller teams used to regional football out, but it's already going that way a little. It's non-League with a capital letter. Purely to distinguish between those in The (as in the original) Football League, and those not. It's similar reasons to why the FA is just the FA rather than having to be the English FA. It doesn't mean that teams in non-League aren't playing in a league at all. I think it's an important and historic distinction. Even now being a member of, getting into, or falling out of The League is a big thing. Bigger than most other promotions/relegations - bar possibly/probably a club being promoted to the top flight for the first time. I can't argue with that. I was more referring to the stigma of being a ''non-League'' side and the some of the comments you see like ''how on earth we have we lost to a non-League side?!?!'' The quality of football and level of professionalism has come on a long way. I agere that the technical distinction makes sense and there is something special, or crushing, about getting into, or falling out of, the League system, mainly down to the history (100 years+ for some clubs). On reflection, keep the League system as is, but 3 up, 3 down would be fairer for me.
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Post by mattyovrio on Nov 8, 2020 19:06:42 GMT
Observations having not seen the full game and only this; Looked like a proper football league match! Brilliant result without Bennett as Reid looked very isolated but he also looked extremely lively and caused them all kinds of problems. C Jennings looked a lot more involved. Their floodlights are shit. Can’t argue with any of that, Reid looks to be a very useful signing. I also commented on the quality of the floodlights as once the 2nd half got going you could clearly notice the difference. Effectively the middle third of the pitch was much darker than the rest. Think Bury is the worst for that. Or was. Seemed to get darker when they turned their lights on. thought the Rochdale pitch looked in really good Nick. On previous visits it has been a right farmer’s field, also like Bury.
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Post by Lincoln Hatter on Nov 8, 2020 19:44:25 GMT
Nah I think your being too forgiving. Definitely a United scarf and that clock on the wall looks like a united one too. Maybe Cantona 7? Is it not a half and half scarf from when Rochdale played Man Utd last season? Ah yes. I think you’re right. Doesn’t excuse the clock though. (Or the fact he owns a half and half scarf!)
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Post by Bredburyhatter on Nov 8, 2020 21:54:13 GMT
One thing that just popped into my head, and apologies if mentioned during the game.... Dale had a HT draw yesterday with a 1st prize of about £250 and 2nd prize a signed shirt. Anyone know how this was done? I don't think there's any shame with nicking ideas off other clubs, and maybe County could look into doing similar?
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Post by vicar on Nov 8, 2020 22:05:07 GMT
Lots of heads up arses there, the bloke's an imbecile. Flat cap, half and half scarf that he carefully moved the camera to show, incessant use of ‘guys’, repeating the same point. It’s a very good piss take that’s got a few from here sucked in. Surely?? You're giving him far too much credit.
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Post by Philcounty on Nov 8, 2020 22:27:18 GMT
One thing that just popped into my head, and apologies if mentioned during the game.... Dale had a HT draw yesterday with a 1st prize of about £250 and 2nd prize a signed shirt. Anyone know how this was done? I don't think there's any shame with nicking ideas off other clubs, and maybe County could look into doing similar? Just found this: www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2020/november/ht-draw-v-stockport-county/
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Post by badgersc on Nov 8, 2020 23:02:01 GMT
Who was the white haired midfielder that played for Rochdale around time of Wembley win? Tidy player, think he came to County a few years later? David Perkins wasn’t it? Decent player That’s him. Thanks. Refused to look it up as thought it would come to me
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Post by Cale Green Hatter on Nov 8, 2020 23:48:53 GMT
It's non-League with a capital letter. Purely to distinguish between those in The (as in the original) Football League, and those not. It's similar reasons to why the FA is just the FA rather than having to be the English FA. It doesn't mean that teams in non-League aren't playing in a league at all. I think it's an important and historic distinction. Even now being a member of, getting into, or falling out of The League is a big thing. Bigger than most other promotions/relegations - bar possibly/probably a club being promoted to the top flight for the first time. I can't argue with that. I was more referring to the stigma of being a ''non-League'' side and the some of the comments you see like ''how on earth we have we lost to a non-League side?!?!'' The quality of football and level of professionalism has come on a long way. I agere that the technical distinction makes sense and there is something special, or crushing, about getting into, or falling out of, the League system, mainly down to the history (100 years+ for some clubs). On reflection, keep the League system as is, but 3 up, 3 down would be fairer for me. I'd go as far as to suggest that 4 up 4 down should be the uniform approach across all leagues. It would certainly take away the "end of the world" feeling that comes with dropping out of the league and stops clubs spending money they haven't got in the vague hope of finishing third from bottom of League 2. The stigma of being a non league club will disappear with time as more and more former league clubs take the plunge for the first time. League 2 currently have 17 clubs who have been non league relatively recently. The bottom 2 at the moment, Scunthorpe and Southend, may well add to the list this season. The snobbery of those who look down on non league football as inferior in every way will never stop pretty much in the same way that the Premier League big boys see virtually every other club in the land as makeweights and canon fodder. 9 League Clubs have been beaten by non league clubs this weekend whilst a few more survived by the skin of their teeth. Anyone who thinks that Non League = inferior clubs and teams needs to give their heads a wobble and understand that it doesn't take much to see a team tumble out of the league.
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