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Post by Nik on Dec 23, 2020 8:04:22 GMT
Allicante has just posted on the other board that similar has gone on Facebook, same person by the looks of it. Have seen that post, it isn't me although he clearly knows similar people! The Facebook post is word for word the same as your post here. The person who posted it said they've been sent it so either you sent it or you've been sent this too and posted it here.
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Post by stalybridgehatter on Dec 23, 2020 8:46:26 GMT
I mean you can sit here and say I am making it up, I'm not really fussed, I don't really get anything out of it and I am sad that his time will come to an end like this but he brings it on himself, everywhere he goes its the same sorry tale. I'm afraid I'd rather keep our best defender, top goalscorer than at present a very average manager at this level. As picked up already, three have handed in transfer requests tonight, the man is a walking destruction ball and has lost the dressing room. It's time for one of the several names in the fray, one who is already at an advanced stage, has experience of getting out of this decision as well as experience managing in the Championship. Who has handed in a transfer request? Who is in the frame for Jim's job? Who is in the advanced stage of talks for his job? Where are you getting this intel from? Otherwise this will just be a claim of some information about something,from an unknown person, both lacking in any credibility. Come on, fess up, who are you and how have come to know this 'information'?
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Post by Count de Stockport on Dec 23, 2020 9:05:02 GMT
I mean you can sit here and say I am making it up, I'm not really fussed, I don't really get anything out of it and I am sad that his time will come to an end like this but he brings it on himself, everywhere he goes its the same sorry tale. I'm afraid I'd rather keep our best defender, top goalscorer than at present a very average manager at this level. As picked up already, three have handed in transfer requests tonight, the man is a walking destruction ball and has lost the dressing room. It's time for one of the several names in the fray, one who is already at an advanced stage, has experience of getting out of this decision as well as experience managing in the Championship. Who has handed in a transfer request? Who is in the frame for Jim's job? Who is in the advanced stage of talks for his job? Where are you getting this intel from? Otherwise this will just be a claim of some information about something,from an unknown person, both lacking in any credibility. Come on, fess up, who are you and how have come to know this 'information'? Most likely it’s a senior government source
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Post by Bilby on Dec 23, 2020 9:05:39 GMT
I'd assume this 'information' has been seen by club officials. Requests for transfer are usually not kept secret- the whole point is to generate a move. Confirmation or denial would go some way to confirming the veracity of the rumours.
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Post by vicar on Dec 23, 2020 9:09:12 GMT
I mean you can sit here and say I am making it up, I'm not really fussed, I don't really get anything out of it and I am sad that his time will come to an end like this but he brings it on himself, everywhere he goes its the same sorry tale. I'm afraid I'd rather keep our best defender, top goalscorer than at present a very average manager at this level. As picked up already, three have handed in transfer requests tonight, the man is a walking destruction ball and has lost the dressing room. It's time for one of the several names in the fray, one who is already at an advanced stage, has experience of getting out of this decision as well as experience managing in the Championship. Tell your contacts at the club that this fan of more than 50 years cares not one jot about Rooney or Hogan and the 3 who have allegedly put in transfer requests, they can f*ck off to Chester, Southport or whoever else is willing to take them.
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Post by FridoBiggins on Dec 23, 2020 9:19:43 GMT
I mean you can sit here and say I am making it up, I'm not really fussed, I don't really get anything out of it and I am sad that his time will come to an end like this but he brings it on himself, everywhere he goes its the same sorry tale. I'm afraid I'd rather keep our best defender, top goalscorer than at present a very average manager at this level. As picked up already, three have handed in transfer requests tonight, the man is a walking destruction ball and has lost the dressing room. It's time for one of the several names in the fray, one who is already at an advanced stage, has experience of getting out of this decision as well as experience managing in the Championship. Tell your contacts at the club that this fan of more than 50 years cares not one jot about Rooney or Hogan and the 3 who have allegedly put in transfer requests, they can f*ck off to Chester, Southport or whoever else is willing to take them. I'd be amazed and extremely disappointed if Mark Stott based his decisions on the whim of new members of staff, in any of his businesses. Rooney 'Mr Stott, I don't like my boss'; Mark Stott 'OK, who should I bring in'? Agree, that if they don't like it, they should be asked to leave.
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Post by karl on Dec 23, 2020 9:28:39 GMT
Pretty embarrassing how the default for a lot of County fans seems to be divide and conquer. This club has only ever achieved anything when everyone is pulling in same direction.
Replace Jim Gannon and you'll have the same people saying the same things regardless of who is in control after a few bad results. I'm not prepared to go back to that cycle of failure.
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Post by gibbo on Dec 23, 2020 9:29:22 GMT
My worry is they know that most will forget once we start winning again, That's not a County / Jim Gannon thing though, it's a Football fan's mentality in general, and there is nothing wrong with that attitude IMO. And we have history of this scenario, in that any noise around the sacking of Danny went away once we started doing well under Dave Jones.
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Post by atmosphere on Dec 23, 2020 9:41:24 GMT
Apart from Mark Kitching and Croasdale, I've not been that impressed by any of the new signings so far.
Rooney is great on the ball but you can see it's a struggle to know where to play him. He's a little weak in the middle of the park, so we have to put him in at 10 where has a great goal threat.
Alex Reid some have said. He's scored a good number but has missed just as many really. Don't rate him that highly.
I've put it down to bedding in, but if any want out they can go. Some of our best players so far have still been the old guard.
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Post by Ngard on Dec 23, 2020 9:46:29 GMT
We all know the owners and non footballing management read this board, so I hope whoever gave you the wink wink nudge nudge to put a feeler out have gauged the reaction to this thread.
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Post by redhatter on Dec 23, 2020 9:47:42 GMT
Apart from Mark Kitching and Croasdale, I've not been that impressed by any of the new signings so far. Rooney is great on the ball but you can see it's a struggle to know where to play him. He's a little weak in the middle of the park, so we have to put him in at 10 where has a great goal threat. Alex Reid some have said. He's scored a good number but has missed just as many really. Don't rate him that highly. I've put it down to bedding in, but if any want out they can go. Some of our best players so far have still been the old guard.
I don't agree, Rooney has done very well and I think he has 11 goals already, Alex Reid has done very well and had scored 7 in 7 before last night. Ritchie Bennett does the holding / ball retention role well, which Jim looks for.
Alex Reid looks a great prospect and I hope we can extend his contract at the Club.
We haven't seen enough of James Jennings, Jordan Williams or Southam Hales to really form an opinion yet.
Connor Jennings hasn't found the form that he showed during his first spell or at other clubs and I don't see what Maynard brings to the team. Not convinced about Barnes, but he's a young prospect and an experienced keeper won't sit on the bench.
Too early. Need to give the players and Jim time. Jim deserves this season as an absolute minimum, given all he has done and achieved at the Club.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Dec 23, 2020 9:47:50 GMT
I mean you can sit here and say I am making it up, I'm not really fussed, I don't really get anything out of it and I am sad that his time will come to an end like this but he brings it on himself, everywhere he goes its the same sorry tale. I'm afraid I'd rather keep our best defender, top goalscorer than at present a very average manager at this level. As picked up already, three have handed in transfer requests tonight, the man is a walking destruction ball and has lost the dressing room. It's time for one of the several names in the fray, one who is already at an advanced stage, has experience of getting out of this decision as well as experience managing in the Championship. Tell your contacts at the club that this fan of more than 50 years cares not one jot about Rooney or Hogan and the 3 who have allegedly put in transfer requests, they can f*ck off to Chester, Southport or whoever else is willing to take them. I completely agree that Gannon matters more than a few players who haven’t been at the club for more than a few months, and whose careers are insignificant at best compared to his as both a player and a manager. Having said that, I worry that posts like this will compound any morale issues among the players by making those players who (rightly or wrongly) are already not entirely happy with the existing set-up feel like they’re being actively forced out. Especially if all these rumours prove to be the usual GOBber bullsh*t. If these rumours oust Gannon, then the pot-stirrers win. If they destroy the squad’s morale and results get worse, then the pot-stirrers win.
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Post by gibbo on Dec 23, 2020 9:56:03 GMT
Too early. Need to give the players and Jim time. Jim deserves this season as an absolute minimum, given all he has done and achieved at the Club.
I agree with you RH, but not based on the 'all he has done for the club' argument, that's irrelevant for me. If Stott doesn't have confidence or doesn't believe he is the right man then what he's done previously shouldn't come in to it. Do agree though that it's too early to think of a change, considering the massive change there has been at the club in the past year (and that's before the Covid factor). It's going to take Jim time to adjust to the new structure / different type of player / character he is going to be working with.
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Post by mattyovrio on Dec 23, 2020 10:09:19 GMT
This whole thing smacks of a hatchet job. Whoever is behind it, if they are connected to the club, that connection should be severed. I am not sure why there is a small hardcore of fans who don’t like Gannon, but they are loud and out in force at the first opportunity again.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Dec 23, 2020 10:11:31 GMT
The "old losing the dressing room" chestnut can mean what it says - that a manager is so clueless and inept that players lose all respect for him and his tactics and play accordingly. Or, it can also mean that players with bigger egos than they're entitled to are stirring the shit. Obviously, I don't know anything that's going on behind the scenes. However, I do know that Gannon isn't clueless and inept.
The other alternative, of course, is that we've just had a couple of bad games and everyone's overreacting because it's lockdown and we can't let off steam at the games.
If it is the second of the two scenarios above, though, the shit-stirrers can do one. Don't care who it is/they are, no player(s) upsets the entire team for their own agenda.
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