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Post by DaveLong79 on May 14, 2021 21:06:48 GMT
Unfortunately cases are growing again in many areas, Bolton is in a real mess and the rates in Stockport have pretty much doubled in just over a week. There’s a real risk of some restrictions being put back/remaining in place in some areas the way things are going again. Hopefully the vaccine will still mean that this doesn’t equate to a big growth in deaths. Cases are up but there is more data coming out that the Indian variant does not evade vaccines. Talk of rising cases is moot with an endemic virus and 60% of the adult population (including the most vulnerable with 2nd doses, who account for 99% of COVID deaths). We still do not know whether the Indian variant(s) growth is due to higher biological transmissibility or is a function of high transmission in India, imported traveller cases, and demographic factors like high number households. Any talk right now that this is going to scupper further lockdown re-opening is premature and doomsaying. The 'tripling' reported turned out to be more like double in the latest PHE data and that includes cases from people who have recently travelled from India or been in contact with others thereafter. We will have a better picture in a few weeks. With posts like these, its worth putting into context how low numbers are to where we were (which makes data more noisy) and accepting the inevitability that covid19 is seasonal, endemic, and will be even higher when we hit autumn/winter. The real challenge now is to continue our successful roll-out programme and see the effects on hospitalisations and deaths the vaccine has. So far the vaccines are working far better than we would have ever anticipated as little as 8 months ago. One thing we can do is look at the breakdown of the rise in infections, to use Bolton as an example, we see that the breakdown of cases by age the rise is in those by and large who have yet to be vaccinated. One can make a deduction that whilst the virus is spreading in younger ages, it is not spreading as fast in older vaccinated groups (especially when we consider noisy data) which suggests the vaccines are doing their job. Even more positive when you consider that vaccines will not always prevent infection, but almost certainly turn catching covid into an illness which is not deathly. I hate go to tinfoil hat, but I would take most COVID reporting in the MSM as a pinch of salt. It's easier to sell your papers reporting that variant bingo will send us back to square one. The virus has mutated 1000s of times and we are still waiting for the 'super mutant' which evades vaccine protection. Fortunately, the ones which the vaccines are less effective on have not seen increased infectivity and we have managed to keep a lid on it - buying us time to modify the next generation vaccines against such variants in the future. Edit; source assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/986380/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_11_England.pdfCracking post, thanks for sharing. 8.7.3
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Post by m20hatter on May 15, 2021 14:28:20 GMT
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Post by DaveLong79 on May 16, 2021 20:01:20 GMT
2000 or 2500 fans to sit outdoors in a stadium with staggered entry/exit times, only to leave and most of us end up sitting indoors in a pub with limited social distancing. All whilst there are less 2000 cases a day, people in hospital plummeting and deaths at their lowest they've ever been. Completely over the COVID nonsense now. It's a incoherent mess. Rant aside, it will be good to step into EP even if its going to be slightly sterile with the social distancing and small crowd. Be interesting to see if this Code of Conduct prohibits singing, celebrating etc Yeah, I'm eagerly awaiting this dropping through the door next week. Can't see many, if any, adhering to not singing or celebrating. That first rendition of the scarf is going to be an emotional one. Also, quite difficult to enforce too! 8.7.3
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Post by m20hatter on May 16, 2021 20:10:02 GMT
Be interesting to see if this Code of Conduct prohibits singing, celebrating etc Yeah, I'm eagerly awaiting this dropping through the door next week. Can't see many, if any, adhering to not singing or celebrating. That first rendition of the scarf is going to be an emotional one. Also, quite difficult to enforce too! 8.7.3 Not sure why they would expect such rules, it’s not been the case at any test event
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Post by cornishhatter89 on May 17, 2021 11:39:48 GMT
Be prepared for a very hollow and different feel to the build up! but then all to be forgotten the moment that whistle blows!!! (speaking from experience at Argyles 3 games where we were allowed fans! very very different but great to be back behind the lads!)
Enjoy all of those who are going and cannot wait to be back.
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Post by ToppersCounty on May 17, 2021 16:27:15 GMT
Good luck to everybody who has entered the ballot for the Woking game, myself and my dad have. Would be interesting to find out how many people applied for those 100 tickets lol!
Anyway good luck!
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Post by The Real Exile on May 17, 2021 17:35:42 GMT
We have, worth a go. Shame we can't have a few more in.
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Post by hatter82 on May 17, 2021 17:40:49 GMT
Shame we can’t have an extra thousand in. Noticed Bournemouth have only been allowed 2,000 in tonight
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Post by johnsdentist on May 17, 2021 18:41:36 GMT
I paid for a season ticket without much hope of attending this season as I felt Mr Stotts support should be reciprocated . I had the choice of a full refund which was declined . I’ve been happy watching the streamed games and the Cup games have also been included . I think under the circumstances it’s a fair trade off.
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Post by m20hatter on May 17, 2021 22:02:08 GMT
Face masks when moving around the ground but not required in seats or when eating/drinking.
Survey to be brought with you and temperature taken at the ground.
All sounds pretty fair from what I’ve heard and shouldn’t impact the experience too much.
Exciting times!
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Post by AllyF on May 17, 2021 23:48:53 GMT
Face masks when moving around the ground but not required in seats or when eating/drinking. Survey to be brought with you and temperature taken at the ground. All sounds pretty fair from what I’ve heard and shouldn’t impact the experience too much. Exciting times! I agree. The Barnsley game on TV almost looked like the "old" normal for the fans who were there.
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Post by m14hatter on May 18, 2021 0:03:01 GMT
Not had anything through yet. Any word on staggered arrival times...?
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Post by timberwolf on May 18, 2021 7:43:48 GMT
. Any word on staggered arrival times...? that used to be the old normal for some fans.
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Post by Chaddz09 on May 18, 2021 7:59:50 GMT
Face masks when moving around the ground but not required in seats or when eating/drinking. Survey to be brought with you and temperature taken at the ground. All sounds pretty fair from what I’ve heard and shouldn’t impact the experience too much. Exciting times! Is this the info in the ‘Return of Fans’ pack ST holders are expecting to receive some point this week? If so, i'm very happy with that!
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Post by advent on May 18, 2021 8:23:46 GMT
When does the ballot happen
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