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Bury
May 6, 2023 20:09:07 GMT
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Post by houldsworthhatter on May 6, 2023 20:09:07 GMT
No. He's the guy who caused all this. Mentioning Steve Dale to a Bury fan gets a sort of Voldemort reaction. I think Stewart Day started the decline and Steve Dale took over from him, I remember Stewrt Day on TV saying that it was crazy that they couldn't sign better players when they had £2m capital in Gigg Lane, alarm bells should have been ringing then. That plus he owned a company called Loans4u who "leant" millions to Bury at a rate of something like 400% interest but nobody in their fans group challenged him........ Very cute with who he sold to as well so as to get next to zero stick. Edit - to be clear I’m talking about Stewart Day. He absolutely destroyed the club and despite the incompetence of Dale, even if he had the best intentions wouldn’t have sorted that mess out.
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Post by timberwolf on May 7, 2023 7:56:07 GMT
Still can never understand why this has taken so long. Gigg Lane should have been the factor that would have united fans from the outset.
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Bury
May 7, 2023 10:10:05 GMT
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Post by Count de Stockport on May 7, 2023 10:10:05 GMT
Still can never understand why this has taken so long. Gigg Lane should have been the factor that would have united fans from the outset. Day didn’t help by hanging around using the club’s website as his personal blog
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Post by Duncan McOchin on Jul 31, 2023 13:02:08 GMT
If anyone's interested, Bury's first game back as a united club saw them beat Glossop 5-1 in front of a crowd of 5,451. That's more than they got in their recent spell in L1 (aside from the odd games against the likes of Blackburn and Sheff U)
Elsewhere, 955 turned up for Droylsden's first game back after they mothballed during Covid.
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Post by mattyovrio on Jul 31, 2023 13:12:08 GMT
Good news all round and thanks for sharing about Droylsden.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Jul 31, 2023 14:41:18 GMT
If anyone's interested, Bury's first game back as a united club saw them beat Glossop 5-1 in front of a crowd of 5,451. That's more than they got in their recent spell in L1 (aside from the odd games against the likes of Blackburn and Sheff U) Elsewhere, 955 turned up for Droylsden's first game back after they mothballed during Covid. That's one hell of a turnout
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Bury
Jul 31, 2023 15:41:06 GMT
Post by scfc73 on Jul 31, 2023 15:41:06 GMT
& Ironically Glossop's scorer was called Burey Great to see them united as a club again & back at Gigg lane, always liked visiting there. I think their gates will hold up, a bit like Macc's in the sense once something comes to an end & restarts the local population appreciate it even more. Good luck to them, hope they climb the divisions & one day find themselves back in the FL.
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Post by Cale Green Hatter on Jul 31, 2023 16:28:27 GMT
Both Bury and Macc now have the opportunity to increase their fan base in part due to maintaining their "spiritual" home and also having the financial clout to be able to field a side that consistently win games both at home and away.
Both Clubs have also got rid of the entrepreneurs / shysters who took them both to new lows. Their absence from the Directors box can also be a feel good factor.
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Post by Imposter on Jul 31, 2023 17:54:12 GMT
Both Bury and Macc now have the opportunity to increase their fan base in part due to maintaining their "spiritual" home and also having the financial clout to be able to field a side that consistently win games both at home and away. Both Clubs have also got rid of the entrepreneurs / shysters who took them both to new lows. Their absence from the Directors box can also be a feel good factor. Evidence from elsewhere suggests possibly not long-term. Looking at Hereford, Darlington, Chester, York, FCUM shows an initial bounce, big crowds, quick promotions. Then hit a wall, usually somewhere around National North/South or National League, the climb stops, the price has to go up to something more realistic, more segregation etc..comes in, it stops being such fun, and crowds plateau and fall. Unless they get quite a bit of luck and/or someone rich takes over I can see similar happening with Macc and Bury.
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Bury
Jul 31, 2023 18:09:35 GMT
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Post by desmond on Jul 31, 2023 18:09:35 GMT
Both Bury and Macc now have the opportunity to increase their fan base in part due to maintaining their "spiritual" home and also having the financial clout to be able to field a side that consistently win games both at home and away. Both Clubs have also got rid of the entrepreneurs / shysters who took them both to new lows. Their absence from the Directors box can also be a feel good factor. Evidence from elsewhere suggests possibly not long-term. Looking at Hereford, Darlington, Chester, York, FCUM shows an initial bounce, big crowds, quick promotions. Then hit a wall, usually somewhere around National North/South or National League, the climb stops, the price has to go up to something more realistic, more segregation etc..comes in, it stops being such fun, and crowds plateau and fall. Unless they get quite a bit of luck and/or someone rich takes over I can see similar happening with Macc and Bury. I’d suggest none of those clubs have the history that Bury have so can see them maintaining a decent level of support.
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Post by scfc73 on Jul 31, 2023 18:24:35 GMT
Both Bury and Macc now have the opportunity to increase their fan base in part due to maintaining their "spiritual" home and also having the financial clout to be able to field a side that consistently win games both at home and away. Both Clubs have also got rid of the entrepreneurs / shysters who took them both to new lows. Their absence from the Directors box can also be a feel good factor. Evidence from elsewhere suggests possibly not long-term. Looking at Hereford, Darlington, Chester, York, FCUM shows an initial bounce, big crowds, quick promotions. Then hit a wall, usually somewhere around National North/South or National League, the climb stops, the price has to go up to something more realistic, more segregation etc..comes in, it stops being such fun, and crowds plateau and fall. Unless they get quite a bit of luck and/or someone rich takes over I can see similar happening with Macc and Bury. Hereford get reasonable gates for their level not dissimilar to the gates they got when in the league, Darlington have struggled to find a proper home after Feethams or the great white elephant that was the Reynolds arena. Can't blame anyone for not wanting to visit the Deva on a regular basis as it's one of the most soulless flat packs in the country but Chester are still one of the best supported clubs at NLN level. York should never have moved out of their beautiful city to a lego kit on a retail park & FCUM are just a bunch of spoilt ex-dungers who probably thought they'd be in the premier league within 15 years of their formation.
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Bury
Jul 31, 2023 18:32:04 GMT
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Post by hedleyverity on Jul 31, 2023 18:32:04 GMT
Evidence from elsewhere suggests possibly not long-term. Looking at Hereford, Darlington, Chester, York, FCUM shows an initial bounce, big crowds, quick promotions. Then hit a wall, usually somewhere around National North/South or National League, the climb stops, the price has to go up to something more realistic, more segregation etc..comes in, it stops being such fun, and crowds plateau and fall. Unless they get quite a bit of luck and/or someone rich takes over I can see similar happening with Macc and Bury. Hereford get reasonable gates for their level not dissimilar to the gates they got when in the league, Darlington have struggled to find a proper home after Feethams or the great white elephant that was the Reynolds arena. Can't blame anyone for not wanting to visit the Deva on a regular basis as it's one of the most soulless flat packs in the country but Chester are still one of the best supported clubs at NLN level. York should never have moved out of their beautiful city to a lego kit on a retail park & FCUM are just a bunch of spoilt ex-dungers who probably thought they'd be in the premier league within 15 years of their formation. I see there’s a newly formed Tier 11 Darlo club going to be playing at the white elephant
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Bury
Jul 31, 2023 18:33:09 GMT
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Post by Imposter on Jul 31, 2023 18:33:09 GMT
Evidence from elsewhere suggests possibly not long-term. Looking at Hereford, Darlington, Chester, York, FCUM shows an initial bounce, big crowds, quick promotions. Then hit a wall, usually somewhere around National North/South or National League, the climb stops, the price has to go up to something more realistic, more segregation etc..comes in, it stops being such fun, and crowds plateau and fall. Unless they get quite a bit of luck and/or someone rich takes over I can see similar happening with Macc and Bury. Hereford get reasonable gates for their level not dissimilar to the gates they got when in the league, Darlington have struggled to find a proper home after Feethams or the great white elephant that was the Reynolds arena. Can't blame anyone for not wanting to visit the Deva on a regular basis as it's one of the most soulless flat packs in the country but Chester are still one of the best supported clubs at NLN level. York should never have moved out of their beautiful city to a lego kit on a retail park & FCUM are just a bunch of spoilt ex-dungers who probably thought they'd be in the premier league within 15 years of their formation. But the point being made was that none of them get anything like the crowds they got when they first formed/reformed and it was all plain sailing, flying through the divisions winning title after title.
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Bury
Jul 31, 2023 22:42:42 GMT
Post by Cale Green Hatter on Jul 31, 2023 22:42:42 GMT
Evidence from elsewhere suggests possibly not long-term. Looking at Hereford, Darlington, Chester, York, FCUM shows an initial bounce, big crowds, quick promotions. Then hit a wall, usually somewhere around National North/South or National League, the climb stops, the price has to go up to something more realistic, more segregation etc..comes in, it stops being such fun, and crowds plateau and fall. Unless they get quite a bit of luck and/or someone rich takes over I can see similar happening with Macc and Bury. I’d suggest none of those clubs have the history that Bury have so can see them maintaining a decent level of support. I'd agree re Hereford and Chester although last season Chester averaged c2400. Darlington's demise seemed to start when they left Feethams whilst Blackwell Meadows doesn't feel like a stadium. Their trips to Bishop Auckland before their return to Darlington must have had an affect on numbers. Once some people stop going they don't easily start going again.
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Bury
Aug 1, 2023 6:01:11 GMT
Post by scfc73 on Aug 1, 2023 6:01:11 GMT
Hereford get reasonable gates for their level not dissimilar to the gates they got when in the league, Darlington have struggled to find a proper home after Feethams or the great white elephant that was the Reynolds arena. Can't blame anyone for not wanting to visit the Deva on a regular basis as it's one of the most soulless flat packs in the country but Chester are still one of the best supported clubs at NLN level. York should never have moved out of their beautiful city to a lego kit on a retail park & FCUM are just a bunch of spoilt ex-dungers who probably thought they'd be in the premier league within 15 years of their formation. I see there’s a newly formed Tier 11 Darlo club going to be playing at the white elephant Yeah I saw that. Darlington United. Crazy!
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