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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 19, 2021 20:20:06 GMT
If that’s true, it’s ludicrous. If we had a caretaker manager in charge, we have a ready-made excuse for losing…in transition and all that. Ok, we might not lose whoever’s in charge but if we do, I cannot even begin to contemplate the atmosphere around EP and Wilson will get it too. And if we win…what then? Accept that things have turned around and the last few weeks/months were just a blip and all will be fine from here on in? Not a chance. Do it now. I’m hoping work on his replacement is going on in the background. I can see it now… Mark “Bear Strangler” McGhee* is there in the locker room, gloves on, satin dressing gown over his shoulders with the hood up, looking all moody while Simon Wilson massages between his shoulders blades giving him those last few vital words of encouragement. *One for the Red Dwarf fans!
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Post by Count de Stockport on Sept 19, 2021 20:41:01 GMT
I’m hoping work on his replacement is going on in the background. I can see it now… Mark “Bear Strangler” McGhee* is there in the locker room, gloves on, satin dressing gown over his shoulders with the hood up, looking all moody while Simon Wilson massages between his shoulders blades giving him those last few vital words of encouragement. *One for the Red Dwarf fans! What were the options again?
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Post by oakwoodbank on Sept 19, 2021 22:05:36 GMT
I think it's probably fair if so. Let's see what this Manager and these so called quality players are made of. Let's see how much it matters. If they can't raise their game to save his bacon and/or he find a way, then the entire lot can f*ck off as far as I'm concerned. There seems to be a general opinion on here that the players we have are good enough but they are not able to use their skills as a team because of the style of play that is being dictated by the manager. The fact that this situation has been ongoing since the start of the new season, without any action being taken, is not only worrying but inexplicable. There can be no doubt that the squad is not a happy band at present and it is unlikely that they will be able/willing to do what you suggest. If that had been possible they would have done it earlier. However, we do not want to throw out the baby with the bathwater; so I assume that your last half sentence was not thought through or was written with tongue in cheek. One thing seems certain, there will not be any clear out of players from the squad, even if we get a new manager. Most, if not all, are on good contracts and you just cannot get around that except by normal transfer arrangements.
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Post by ancienthatter on Sept 19, 2021 22:10:40 GMT
I think it's probably fair if so. Let's see what this Manager and these so called quality players are made of. Let's see how much it matters. If they can't raise their game to save his bacon and/or he find a way, then the entire lot can f*ck off as far as I'm concerned. There seems to be a general opinion on here that the players we have are good enough but they are not able to use their skills as a team because of the style of play that is being dictated by the manager. The fact that this situation has been ongoing since the start of the new season, without any action being taken, is not only worrying but inexplicable. There can be no doubt that the squad is not a happy band at present and it is unlikely that they will be able/willing to do what you suggest. If that had been possible they would have done it earlier. However, we do not want to throw out the baby with the bathwater; so I assume that your last half sentence was not thought through or was written with tongue in cheek. One thing seems certain, there will not be any clear out of players from the squad, even if we get a new manager. Most, if not all, are on good contracts and you just cannot get around that except by normal transfer arrangements. There’s nothing wrong with the players.
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Post by countymike on Sept 19, 2021 22:37:38 GMT
There seems to be a general opinion on here that the players we have are good enough but they are not able to use their skills as a team because of the style of play that is being dictated by the manager. The fact that this situation has been ongoing since the start of the new season, without any action being taken, is not only worrying but inexplicable. There can be no doubt that the squad is not a happy band at present and it is unlikely that they will be able/willing to do what you suggest. If that had been possible they would have done it earlier. However, we do not want to throw out the baby with the bathwater; so I assume that your last half sentence was not thought through or was written with tongue in cheek. One thing seems certain, there will not be any clear out of players from the squad, even if we get a new manager. Most, if not all, are on good contracts and you just cannot get around that except by normal transfer arrangements. There’s nothing wrong with the players. Nothing wrong with the players? Really? Lack of fight? Lack of Passion? Lack of showing any leadership on the field? There's quite a bit wrong with things from top to bottom at the moment, but I think a hell of a lot of the responsibility has to fall to the players
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Post by ancienthatter on Sept 19, 2021 22:41:21 GMT
There’s nothing wrong with the players. Nothing wrong with the players? Really? Lack of fight? Lack of Passion? Lack of showing any leadership on the field? There's quite a bit wrong with things from top to bottom at the moment, but I think a hell of a lot of the responsibility has to fall to the players They are perfectly good players who have no idea what they are supposed to be doing.. that is entirely down to the coach.
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Post by ancienthatter on Sept 19, 2021 22:44:20 GMT
There’s nothing wrong with the players. Nothing wrong with the players? Really? Lack of fight? Lack of Passion? Lack of showing any leadership on the field? There's quite a bit wrong with things from top to bottom at the moment, but I think a hell of a lot of the responsibility has to fall to the players And you’ve just described Rusk.. so maybe the players are taking his coaching on board.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 20, 2021 7:54:46 GMT
I’m hoping work on his replacement is going on in the background. I can see it now… Mark “Bear Strangler” McGhee* is there in the locker room, gloves on, satin dressing gown over his shoulders with the hood up, looking all moody while Simon Wilson massages between his shoulders blades giving him those last few vital words of encouragement. *One for the Red Dwarf fans! That one’s pretty obscure even by Red Dwarf standards 😂
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 20, 2021 8:07:51 GMT
Banky. Some of the current Wilson/Rusk signings are not cutting the mark are they. What do you suggest should be done? It's fairly simple. Get a manager in who can get the best out of one of our most expensively-assembled squads ever. Its all about opinions but for me if someone did take over from rusk he,ll have a harder job with this lot than rusk had with jims team. For me we have gone backwards not forwards with recruitment and playing style.
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Post by bigmartin on Sept 20, 2021 8:42:05 GMT
I think it's probably fair if so. Let's see what this Manager and these so called quality players are made of. Let's see how much it matters. If they can't raise their game to save his bacon and/or he find a way, then the entire lot can f*ck off as far as I'm concerned. There seems to be a general opinion on here that the players we have are good enough but they are not able to use their skills as a team because of the style of play that is being dictated by the manager. The fact that this situation has been ongoing since the start of the new season, without any action being taken, is not only worrying but inexplicable. There can be no doubt that the squad is not a happy band at present and it is unlikely that they will be able/willing to do what you suggest. If that had been possible they would have done it earlier. However, we do not want to throw out the baby with the bathwater; so I assume that your last half sentence was not thought through or was written with tongue in cheek. One thing seems certain, there will not be any clear out of players from the squad, even if we get a new manager. Most, if not all, are on good contracts and you just cannot get around that except by normal transfer arrangements. None of what I wrote was written tongue in cheek. It appears, from what I've read on here (my only source for SCFC news) that these players (not all I'll accept but it's fairly well publicised who the main culprits are by now) are now likely going to be partly responsible for the exit of two Managers. Toxic. Get rid. ASAP. Nothing good can happen here until it happens. We've been here before.
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Post by bigmartin on Sept 20, 2021 8:43:32 GMT
Nothing wrong with the players? Really? Lack of fight? Lack of Passion? Lack of showing any leadership on the field? There's quite a bit wrong with things from top to bottom at the moment, but I think a hell of a lot of the responsibility has to fall to the players They are perfectly good players who have no idea what they are supposed to be doing.. that is entirely down to the coach. You're giving the players a free pass and loading it all on Rusk. Bollocks is that with the utmost of respect mate.
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Post by ancienthatter on Sept 20, 2021 9:04:27 GMT
They are perfectly good players who have no idea what they are supposed to be doing.. that is entirely down to the coach. You're giving the players a free pass and loading it all on Rusk. Bollocks is that with the utmost of respect mate. I’m just pointing out that for some reason the coach can’t get them to do what he wants them to do. You’re right.. the players take some responsibility for that.. but Rusk has to fix it. And so far he hasnt
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Post by stalybridgehatter on Sept 20, 2021 9:10:49 GMT
Banky. Some of the current Wilson/Rusk signings are not cutting the mark are they. What do you suggest should be done? I would be extremely happy to see the current squad perform but they as a team are not up to the mark yet. How many more points do we give away like last season until something is done. There comes a time, when you've looked around and seen the tunes that people are getting from their average violins, that you have to start getting a tune from your Stradivarius. We want to hear Meditation by Massenet or the Blue Danube by Strauss, and not the poor, error littered rendition of Three Blind Mice we keep getting each week.
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Post by bigmartin on Sept 20, 2021 9:41:11 GMT
Banky. Some of the current Wilson/Rusk signings are not cutting the mark are they. What do you suggest should be done? I would be extremely happy to see the current squad perform but they as a team are not up to the mark yet. How many more points do we give away like last season until something is done. There comes a time, when you've looked around and seen the tunes that people are getting from their average violins, that you have to start getting a tune from your Stradivarius. We want to hear Meditation by Massenet or the Blue Danube by Strauss, and not the poor, error littered rendition of Three Blind Mice we keep getting each week. Comes a time when you also have to accept that your string section is just absolutely crap
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Post by stalybridgehatter on Sept 20, 2021 9:50:49 GMT
There comes a time, when you've looked around and seen the tunes that people are getting from their average violins, that you have to start getting a tune from your Stradivarius. We want to hear Meditation by Massenet or the Blue Danube by Strauss, and not the poor, error littered rendition of Three Blind Mice we keep getting each week. Comes a time when you also have to accept that your string section is just absolutely crap I think the conductor is the biggest problem, maybe changes his baton?
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