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Post by advent on Sept 20, 2021 7:39:55 GMT
Is Rusk still here? Asking for 5 and half thousand friends.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Sept 20, 2021 7:42:44 GMT
Hi Halifax fan here. Reading all your message boards I get the impression your owner is trying to run your club like one in a lot higher league. Unfortunately at this level having directors of everything doesn't work. It's alright signing players from higher levels but why are they coming apart from money. Pete Wild has total control of recruitment at the Shay and having the budget he has his recruitment is torally different. We look for players who have something to prove released by a big club, player trying to improve their career,coming back from injury. We sometimes get it wrong but more often we get it right and they have gone on to better things. We have to do this as nobody would sign for us just for the wages. Also Pete Wild has an exceptional knowledge of junior and non league football in the North West and we are reaping the rewards of this. Saturday first half we gave you too much respect but when we realised you were beatable we started to play our normal game. To be honest for all the money you've spent I wouldn't want one of your players in our team. How many ex EFL managers have got Clubs into the league in recent years. I dislike Chesterfield intensely but there recruitment of James Rowe was a masterstroke. Hope you beat Wrexham. The big difference is expectation, Pete Wild will have time to get things right, our supporters have little patience, even when we were on a great run last season, it wasn’t good enough for many on this board. Pete Wild can quietly go about his business, getting things right over a period of time, Simon Rusk or A.N. Other can’t, the weight of expectation that we go up is a heavy burden, anything less isn’t good enough. Now that several people have explained it to you *again*, maybe next time don’t go around oversimplifying the issue as being about fans’ impatience? Just a thought
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 20, 2021 7:42:48 GMT
Is Rusk still here? Asking for 5 and half thousand friends. Too early in the day but I reckon if he isn’t gone today he’ll get Wrexham.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 7:43:20 GMT
Believe me our message board equally wants instant success, the difference is we do realise the limitations of our club. Our club is run on a very tight budget and despite the clamour for the Chairman to push the boat out financially, remembering the old club when success was having a club to support for the following season most us would rather have a viable club than the house cards that is many current football clubs. You are lucky you have a wealthy Chairman who genuinely loves the club. My advice to him look at clubs that have been successful in the National League clubs who have built slowly with firm foundations not tried to buy instant success. By the way I don't think Jim Gannons the answer either.
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Post by Jimbo on Sept 20, 2021 7:46:22 GMT
Is Rusk still here? Asking for 5 and half thousand friends. As much as I want the announcement, I think we are saddled with him until after the Wrexham game at the very earliest. If we get another home tonking I think that absolutely has to be the end. If it isn’t then I will have serious concerns about Mark Stotts ability to see the wood for the trees.
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 20, 2021 7:46:41 GMT
My guess is that our next manager will be another random appointment Doubt any decent experienced manager will be happy to work within the confines of the set up of the club - most would want full control and won't want to play 2nd fiddle to Wilson who clearly holds the power Think you are right there. All the names that have been mentioned on here have no chance. If jim had walked all these names would have been mentioned as a jim replacement and doubt rusk would have got a mention. Just like his replacement if he does go.
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 20, 2021 7:57:16 GMT
Hi Halifax fan here. Reading all your message boards I get the impression your owner is trying to run your club like one in a lot higher league. Unfortunately at this level having directors of everything doesn't work. It's alright signing players from higher levels but why are they coming apart from money. Pete Wild has total control of recruitment at the Shay and having the budget he has his recruitment is torally different. We look for players who have something to prove released by a big club, player trying to improve their career,coming back from injury. We sometimes get it wrong but more often we get it right and they have gone on to better things. We have to do this as nobody would sign for us just for the wages. Also Pete Wild has an exceptional knowledge of junior and non league football in the North West and we are reaping the rewards of this. Saturday first half we gave you too much respect but when we realised you were beatable we started to play our normal game. To be honest for all the money you've spent I wouldn't want one of your players in our team. How many ex EFL managers have got Clubs into the league in recent years. I dislike Chesterfield intensely but there recruitment of James Rowe was a masterstroke. Hope you beat Wrexham. I would honestly swap your approach for ours. Must be the yorkshire air that makes me agree with every single point you have made. There has and never will be a guarentee of promotion no matter how much or little you spend. Think at the moment most fans at the shay will feel a bigger closeness to your players as we do now. All that has been distroyed.
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Post by ricky on Sept 20, 2021 8:00:15 GMT
Believe me our message board equally wants instant success, the difference is we do realise the limitations of our club. Our club is run on a very tight budget and despite the clamour for the Chairman to push the boat out financially, remembering the old club when success was having a club to support for the following season most us would rather have a viable club than the house cards that is many current football clubs. You are lucky you have a wealthy Chairman who genuinely loves the club. My advice to him look at clubs that have been successful in the National League clubs who have built slowly with firm foundations not tried to buy instant success. By the way I don't think Jim Gannons the answer either. Jim Gannon was rightly afforded a lot of slack, over 3 seasons in the NLN he gradually built an excellent team, in similar circumstances to what I imagine Pete Wild has. If Jim had been given the same autonomy as with the previous owners I imagine we’d have got up eventually. I suppose you can’t have your cake and eat it, Gannon himself said the club needed more investment to get any further.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 20, 2021 8:08:41 GMT
Believe me our message board equally wants instant success, the difference is we do realise the limitations of our club. Our club is run on a very tight budget and despite the clamour for the Chairman to push the boat out financially, remembering the old club when success was having a club to support for the following season most us would rather have a viable club than the house cards that is many current football clubs. You are lucky you have a wealthy Chairman who genuinely loves the club. My advice to him look at clubs that have been successful in the National League clubs who have built slowly with firm foundations not tried to buy instant success. By the way I don't think Jim Gannons the answer either. Jim Gannon was rightly afforded a lot of slack, over 3 seasons in the NLN he gradually built an excellent team, in similar circumstances to what I imagine Pete Wild has. If Jim had been given the same autonomy as with the previous owners I imagine we’d have got up eventually. I suppose you can’t have your cake and eat it, Gannon himself said the club needed more investment to get any further. Investment, not throwing money at marquee signings from League One. We’d have never signed Madden with Gannon here, probably played a part in him going.
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Post by suedehead on Sept 20, 2021 8:09:41 GMT
Jim Gannon was rightly afforded a lot of slack, over 3 seasons in the NLN he gradually built an excellent team, in similar circumstances to what I imagine Pete Wild has. If Jim had been given the same autonomy as with the previous owners I imagine we’d have got up eventually. I suppose you can’t have your cake and eat it, Gannon himself said the club needed more investment to get any further. Investment, not throwing money at marquee signings from League One. We’d have never signed Madden with Gannon here, probably played a part in him going. With a bit of a stretch, you're not too far away from something I've heard. Gannon was unhappy with Jennings return (goals and assists) in the first 3 months or so of last season and wanted to bring in Matty Warburton. The club (whoever that may be) wanted a bigger name bringing in and saw Jim wanting MW back as further evidence they were on different paths and wouldn't align. Both dug their heels in. Jim went, we ended up with Madden.
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Post by gibbo on Sept 20, 2021 8:15:28 GMT
Investment, not throwing money at marquee signings from League One. We’d have never signed Madden with Gannon here, probably played a part in him going. In fairness, Madden looked class last season, and don't recall many being unhappy we signed him at the time (or thought it was a bad signing based on what we saw on the pitch last season).
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 20, 2021 8:17:30 GMT
Investment, not throwing money at marquee signings from League One. We’d have never signed Madden with Gannon here, probably played a part in him going. In fairness, Madden looked class last season, and don't recall many being unhappy we signed him at the time (or thought it was a bad signing based on what we saw on the pitch last season). I think he’s a good player who we rushed in too quickly when we first signed him and then rushed back too quickly in the playoffs. I don’t think he’s been worth the outlay and thought it was an expensive gamble at the time. We could have probably got two young and hungry quality National League players for what we’ve spent on him, maybe more.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 20, 2021 8:17:56 GMT
Investment, not throwing money at marquee signings from League One. We’d have never signed Madden with Gannon here, probably played a part in him going. With a bit of a stretch, you're not too far away from something I've heard. Gannon was unhappy with Jennings return (goals and assists) in the first 3 months or so of last season and wanted to bring in Matty Warburton. The club (whoever that may be) wanted a bigger name bringing in and saw Jim wanting MW back as further evidence they were on different paths and wouldn't align. Both dug their heels in. Jim went, we ended up with Madden. And Warburton continues to haunt us
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 20, 2021 8:20:28 GMT
Jim Gannon was rightly afforded a lot of slack, over 3 seasons in the NLN he gradually built an excellent team, in similar circumstances to what I imagine Pete Wild has. If Jim had been given the same autonomy as with the previous owners I imagine we’d have got up eventually. I suppose you can’t have your cake and eat it, Gannon himself said the club needed more investment to get any further. We all wanted better investment in the playing budget but not to the extent we have done with at the moment no sign of improvement on the pitch. The main thing was having higher wages to kepp players at the club with sensible signings. No need to raid division 1 for their players.
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Post by gibbo on Sept 20, 2021 8:23:46 GMT
And Warburton continues to haunt us Though the general consensus was that we didn't want him back, we'd moved on from needing to sign ex-Players / needed better, etc.
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