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Post by mat1scfc on Oct 3, 2023 9:50:30 GMT
Immediate reaction is that we need to get Pye, Rydel, Croasdale, Cody signed up to new deals. Plus MSH if he can stay fit and Sarcevic if he can stay fit and in form (and doesn’t want a really long contract). Would offer Ben and potentially Hippo one year extensions too. Picking up Bailey on a permanent transfer would be useful if he continues his form (ditto Barry but obviously not going to happen). The rest I’d probably let leave at the end of the season, with particular best wishes to Paddy - a County hero. I don’t mean to pick on them and I hope they come good, but it’s frustrating that Camps and Powell are two of the players signed up for longest, when neither really fit our style. (I can see a world where Powell becomes an important player for us, to be fair, and have my fingers crossed for it - we’ve invested too much in him for it not to pay off.) I'd imagine Pye and Johnson we will announce something soon on extension they should be easy ones to do Croasdale I'd give another year Rydel I'm not sure about, don't think DC particularly fancies him so can see him maybe seeing season out here and having prove his fitness before a new deal if we got promoted would we want take a chance on someone who may or may not make step to L1 nevermind that with someone recovering from an ACL rupture if challinor sticks to a back 4 and this formation in particular then rydel doesn't fit well. There's no left wing spot for him and he's not good enough defensively to be a LB Can see him leaving at the end of the season which for me is a shame because he's good and young (23 in February) he's a player that if moved on we should've been getting money for.
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Post by Leo on Oct 3, 2023 10:15:19 GMT
I'm sure loads of the ages are wrong. This shows their date of births and their current ages as of today. 10/09/1987 Ben Hinchliffe 36 04/03/1990 Paddy Madden 33 13/03/1992 Antoni Sarcevic 31 02/02/1993 Neill Byrne 30 23/03/1994 Nick Powell 29 26/09/1994 Ryan Croasdale 29 09/11/1994 Myles Hippolyte 28 08/12/1994 Jordan Smith 28 24/12/1994 Ibou Touray 28 30/11/1995 Callum Camps 27 02/02/1996 Macauley Southam-Hales 27 13/05/1996 Akil Wright 27 24/09/1996 Kyle Knoyle 27 11/10/1996 Kyle Wootton 26 12/11/1996 Fraser Horsfall 26 03/02/1997 Will Collar 26 21/11/1999 Tanto Olaofe 23 08/12/1999 Odin Bailey 23 04/09/2000 Jayden Richardson 23 09/02/2001 Ryan Rydel 22 06/09/2001 Jack Stretton 22 20/11/2001 Bobby Jones 21 07/11/2002 Ethan Pye 20 21/06/2003 Louie Barry 20 17/02/2004 Alfie Pond 19 03/10/2004 Cody Johnson 19 10/10/2004 Joel Cotterill 18 ?? Ashton Mee 17 (he could be 18 now for all I know)
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Post by Philcounty on Oct 3, 2023 10:18:31 GMT
I'm sure loads of the ages are wrong. This shows their date of births and their current ages as of today. 10/09/1987 Ben Hinchliffe 36 04/03/1990 Paddy Madden 33 13/03/1992 Antoni Sarcevic 31 02/02/1993 Neill Byrne 30 23/03/1994 Nick Powell 29 26/09/1994 Ryan Croasdale 29 09/11/1994 Myles Hippolyte 28 08/12/1994 Jordan Smith 28 24/12/1994 Ibou Touray 28 30/11/1995 Callum Camps 27 02/02/1996 Macauley Southam-Hales 27 13/05/1996 Akil Wright 27 24/09/1996 Kyle Knoyle 27 11/10/1996 Kyle Wootton 26 12/11/1996 Fraser Horsfall 26 03/02/1997 Will Collar 26 21/11/1999 Tanto Olaofe 23 08/12/1999 Odin Bailey 23 04/09/2000 Jayden Richardson 23 09/02/2001 Ryan Rydel 22 06/09/2001 Jack Stretton 22 20/11/2001 Bobby Jones 21 07/11/2002 Ethan Pye 20 21/06/2003 Louie Barry 20 17/02/2004 Alfie Pond 19 03/10/2004 Cody Johnson 19 10/10/2004 Joel Cotterill 18 ?? Ashton Mee 17 Thank you, I'll update later.
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Post by albybeliever on Oct 3, 2023 10:53:45 GMT
Immediate reaction is that we need to get Pye, Rydel, Croasdale, Cody signed up to new deals. Plus MSH if he can stay fit and Sarcevic if he can stay fit and in form (and doesn’t want a really long contract). Would offer Ben and potentially Hippo one year extensions too. Picking up Bailey on a permanent transfer would be useful if he continues his form (ditto Barry but obviously not going to happen). The rest I’d probably let leave at the end of the season, with particular best wishes to Paddy - a County hero. I don’t mean to pick on them and I hope they come good, but it’s frustrating that Camps and Powell are two of the players signed up for longest, when neither really fit our style. (I can see a world where Powell becomes an important player for us, to be fair, and have my fingers crossed for it - we’ve invested too much in him for it not to pay off.) I'd imagine Pye and Johnson we will announce something soon on extension they should be easy ones to do Croasdale I'd give another year Rydel I'm not sure about, don't think DC particularly fancies him so can see him maybe seeing season out here and having prove his fitness before a new deal if we got promoted would we want take a chance on someone who may or may not make step to L1 nevermind that with someone recovering from an ACL rupture I suspect you might be right on DC’s view of Rydel, but I think it’d be madness not to extend his context ASAP (unless he’s asking for silly money, of course). I think I’m more critical of him that a lot of people on here - he can be weak defensively at times and still has a lot of rough edges, particularly in a back four - but for me he’s among the players in the squad with the highest potential upside. Look at the number of assists he provides and the amount of attacks we make down that left flank (partially due to Barry too, of course). I’d be amazed if scouts from higher divisions using data analysis weren’t very aware of him.
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Post by m14hatter on Oct 3, 2023 11:15:07 GMT
I'd imagine Pye and Johnson we will announce something soon on extension they should be easy ones to do Croasdale I'd give another year Rydel I'm not sure about, don't think DC particularly fancies him so can see him maybe seeing season out here and having prove his fitness before a new deal if we got promoted would we want take a chance on someone who may or may not make step to L1 nevermind that with someone recovering from an ACL rupture I suspect you might be right on DC’s view of Rydel, but I think it’d be madness not to extend his context ASAP (unless he’s asking for silly money, of course). I think I’m more critical of him that a lot of people on here - he can be weak defensively at times and still has a lot of rough edges, particularly in a back four - but for me he’s among the players in the squad with the highest potential upside. Look at the number of assists he provides and the amount of attacks we make down that left flank (partially due to Barry too, of course). I’d be amazed if scouts from higher divisions using data analysis weren’t very aware of him. We absolutely shouldn’t be offering anything asap to him. He’s out for the rest of the season and at this stage we have no idea how his recovery will go. No team is going to offer him whilst they have no idea on his fitness levels. Let’s look after him and see how he goes. But there’s absolutely no rush to get him tied down.
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Post by albybeliever on Oct 3, 2023 13:02:25 GMT
I suspect you might be right on DC’s view of Rydel, but I think it’d be madness not to extend his context ASAP (unless he’s asking for silly money, of course). I think I’m more critical of him that a lot of people on here - he can be weak defensively at times and still has a lot of rough edges, particularly in a back four - but for me he’s among the players in the squad with the highest potential upside. Look at the number of assists he provides and the amount of attacks we make down that left flank (partially due to Barry too, of course). I’d be amazed if scouts from higher divisions using data analysis weren’t very aware of him. We absolutely shouldn’t be offering anything asap to him. He’s out for the rest of the season and at this stage we have no idea how his recovery will go. No team is going to offer him whilst they have no idea on his fitness levels. Let’s look after him and see how he goes. But there’s absolutely no rush to get him tied down. Not sure I agree. 15 years ago, yep - ACL was often the kiss of death due to potential recurrence. But nowadays, in a young player? Not sure it’s a particularly material consideration when offering an extension if you rate the player and they’re not someone purely reliant on pace.
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Post by Philcounty on Oct 3, 2023 17:05:13 GMT
January 2024
27 - Odin Bailey - Age 23 (on loan from Salford)
June 2024
1 - Ben Hinchliffe - Age 36
13 - Bobby Jones - Age 21
12 - Jordan Smith - Age 28
7 - Macauley Southam-Hales - Age 27
10- Antoni Sarcevic - Age 31
17 - Ryan Rydel - Age 22
9 - Paddy Madden - Age 33
18 - Ryan Croasdale - Age 29
21 - Myles Hippolyte - Age 28
30 - Cody Johnson - Age 19
24 - Connor Evans - Age 26 (Season long loan - AFC Wimbledon)
15 - Ethan Pye - Age 20
Billy Chadwick - Age 23 (option +1yr) (Season long loan - Gateshead)
26 - Jayden Richardson - Age 22 (on loan from Aberdeen)
20 - Louie Barry - Age 20 (on loan from Aston Villa)
22 - Joel Cotterill - Age 18 (on loan from Swansea)
23 - Alfie Pond - Age 19 (on loan from Wolves)
Josh Popoola - Age 19 (on loan until Jan at Chorley)
June 2025
19 - Kyle Wootton - Age 26
14 - Will Collar - Age 26
6 - Fraser Horsfall - Age 27
Joe Lewis - Age 23 (season long loan - AFC Wimbledon)
4 - Akil Wright - Age 27
8 - Callum Camps - Age 27
25 - Isaac Tanitoluwaloba Aduraoluwatimileyin 'Tanto' Olaofe - Age 23
Jack Stretton - Age 22
2 - Kyle Knoyle - Age 27
5 - Neill Byrne - Age 30
3 - Ibou Touray - Age 28
June 2026
Dave Challinor - Age 48
11 - Nick Powell - Age 29
28 - Ashton Mee - Age 17
February 2272
Edgeley Park - Age 131 years
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Post by albybeliever on Dec 23, 2023 19:56:20 GMT
January 202427 - Odin Bailey - Age 23 (on loan from Salford) June 20241 - Ben Hinchliffe - Age 36 13 - Bobby Jones - Age 21 12 - Jordan Smith - Age 28 7 - Macauley Southam-Hales - Age 27 10- Antoni Sarcevic - Age 31 17 - Ryan Rydel - Age 22 9 - Paddy Madden - Age 33 18 - Ryan Croasdale - Age 29 21 - Myles Hippolyte - Age 28 30 - Cody Johnson - Age 19 24 - Connor Evans - Age 26 (Season long loan - AFC Wimbledon) 15 - Ethan Pye - Age 20 Billy Chadwick - Age 23 (option +1yr) (Season long loan - Gateshead) 26 - Jayden Richardson - Age 22 (on loan from Aberdeen) 20 - Louie Barry - Age 20 (on loan from Aston Villa) 22 - Joel Cotterill - Age 18 (on loan from Swansea) 23 - Alfie Pond - Age 19 (on loan from Wolves) Josh Popoola - Age 19 (on loan until Jan at Chorley) June 202519 - Kyle Wootton - Age 26 14 - Will Collar - Age 26 6 - Fraser Horsfall - Age 27 Joe Lewis - Age 23 (season long loan - AFC Wimbledon) 4 - Akil Wright - Age 27 8 - Callum Camps - Age 27 25 - Isaac Tanitoluwaloba Aduraoluwatimileyin 'Tanto' Olaofe - Age 23 Jack Stretton - Age 22 2 - Kyle Knoyle - Age 27 5 - Neill Byrne - Age 30 3 - Ibou Touray - Age 28 June 2026Dave Challinor - Age 48 11 - Nick Powell - Age 29 28 - Ashton Mee - Age 17 February 2272Edgeley Park - Age 131 years Is this the most up to date list still? Amazed that we’ve not extended Croasdale’s contract yet, given how crucial he is for us. Even if we brought in this mythical ‘Croasdale + better passing’ that some people imagine is out there, surely we’d want him as an important squad player? Johnson and Pye feel like obvious choices to extend. I’d give Sarce another contract, which I wasn’t sure about in the summer, but he’s been magnificent. Hinchliffe would get a year, even if we were to bring in a new GK in the summer - he’ll be a great cover goalkeeper and coach. Would extend Rydel, as think he has huge potential, despite occasionally frustrating me. And would like to see MSH stay too, despite his injury problems - he’s an excellent player. Fair enough if we brought in someone like Fevrier as competition for Knoyle instead, but otherwise would like to see Macca stay.
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Post by mat1scfc on Dec 23, 2023 20:45:46 GMT
January 202427 - Odin Bailey - Age 23 (on loan from Salford) June 20241 - Ben Hinchliffe - Age 36 13 - Bobby Jones - Age 21 12 - Jordan Smith - Age 28 7 - Macauley Southam-Hales - Age 27 10- Antoni Sarcevic - Age 31 17 - Ryan Rydel - Age 22 9 - Paddy Madden - Age 33 18 - Ryan Croasdale - Age 29 21 - Myles Hippolyte - Age 28 30 - Cody Johnson - Age 19 24 - Connor Evans - Age 26 (Season long loan - AFC Wimbledon) 15 - Ethan Pye - Age 20 Billy Chadwick - Age 23 (option +1yr) (Season long loan - Gateshead) 26 - Jayden Richardson - Age 22 (on loan from Aberdeen) 20 - Louie Barry - Age 20 (on loan from Aston Villa) 22 - Joel Cotterill - Age 18 (on loan from Swansea) 23 - Alfie Pond - Age 19 (on loan from Wolves) Josh Popoola - Age 19 (on loan until Jan at Chorley) June 202519 - Kyle Wootton - Age 26 14 - Will Collar - Age 26 6 - Fraser Horsfall - Age 27 Joe Lewis - Age 23 (season long loan - AFC Wimbledon) 4 - Akil Wright - Age 27 8 - Callum Camps - Age 27 25 - Isaac Tanitoluwaloba Aduraoluwatimileyin 'Tanto' Olaofe - Age 23 Jack Stretton - Age 22 2 - Kyle Knoyle - Age 27 5 - Neill Byrne - Age 30 3 - Ibou Touray - Age 28 June 2026Dave Challinor - Age 48 11 - Nick Powell - Age 29 28 - Ashton Mee - Age 17 February 2272Edgeley Park - Age 131 years Is this the most up to date list still? Amazed that we’ve not extended Croasdale’s contract yet, given how crucial he is for us. Even if we brought in this mythical ‘Croasdale + better passing’ that some people imagine is out there, surely we’d want him as an important squad player? Johnson and Pye feel like obvious choices to extend. I’d give Sarce another contract, which I wasn’t sure about in the summer, but he’s been magnificent. Hinchliffe would get a year, even if we were to bring in a new GK in the summer - he’ll be a great cover goalkeeper and coach. Would extend Rydel, as think he has huge potential, despite occasionally frustrating me. And would like to see MSH stay too, despite his injury problems - he’s an excellent player. Fair enough if we brought in someone like Fevrier as competition for Knoyle instead, but otherwise would like to see Macca stay. fevrier is a great player but he's left footed and potentially will do better further up the pitch as an out an out winger
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Post by albybeliever on Dec 23, 2023 20:54:39 GMT
Is this the most up to date list still? Amazed that we’ve not extended Croasdale’s contract yet, given how crucial he is for us. Even if we brought in this mythical ‘Croasdale + better passing’ that some people imagine is out there, surely we’d want him as an important squad player? Johnson and Pye feel like obvious choices to extend. I’d give Sarce another contract, which I wasn’t sure about in the summer, but he’s been magnificent. Hinchliffe would get a year, even if we were to bring in a new GK in the summer - he’ll be a great cover goalkeeper and coach. Would extend Rydel, as think he has huge potential, despite occasionally frustrating me. And would like to see MSH stay too, despite his injury problems - he’s an excellent player. Fair enough if we brought in someone like Fevrier as competition for Knoyle instead, but otherwise would like to see Macca stay. fevrier is a great player but he's left footed and potentially will do better further up the pitch as an out an out winger Is he? Interesting that he played RWB for them when we played them and generally did very well. Though I tend to agree that I prefer players on their ‘correct’ side when playing wing back and that he’s definitely stronger going forward than defensively. More meant that kind of player - young, good already, and very likely to improve and play at a higher level.
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Post by ancienthatter on Dec 24, 2023 0:08:51 GMT
Is this the most up to date list still? Amazed that we’ve not extended Croasdale’s contract yet, given how crucial he is for us. Even if we brought in this mythical ‘Croasdale + better passing’ that some people imagine is out there, surely we’d want him as an important squad player? Johnson and Pye feel like obvious choices to extend. I’d give Sarce another contract, which I wasn’t sure about in the summer, but he’s been magnificent. Hinchliffe would get a year, even if we were to bring in a new GK in the summer - he’ll be a great cover goalkeeper and coach. Would extend Rydel, as think he has huge potential, despite occasionally frustrating me. And would like to see MSH stay too, despite his injury problems - he’s an excellent player. Fair enough if we brought in someone like Fevrier as competition for Knoyle instead, but otherwise would like to see Macca stay. fevrier is a great player but he's left footed and potentially will do better further up the pitch as an out an out winger So counting that lot there’s 5 spaces to bring players in?? Isn’t it 23 in total.. don’t count keepers or players that are 22 within this season. I think January is going to be pretty exciting.
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Post by wnm on Dec 24, 2023 0:35:50 GMT
January 202427 - Odin Bailey - Age 23 (on loan from Salford) June 20241 - Ben Hinchliffe - Age 36 13 - Bobby Jones - Age 21 12 - Jordan Smith - Age 28 7 - Macauley Southam-Hales - Age 27 10- Antoni Sarcevic - Age 31 17 - Ryan Rydel - Age 22 9 - Paddy Madden - Age 33 18 - Ryan Croasdale - Age 29 21 - Myles Hippolyte - Age 28 30 - Cody Johnson - Age 19 24 - Connor Evans - Age 26 (Season long loan - AFC Wimbledon) 15 - Ethan Pye - Age 20 Billy Chadwick - Age 23 (option +1yr) (Season long loan - Gateshead) 26 - Jayden Richardson - Age 22 (on loan from Aberdeen) 20 - Louie Barry - Age 20 (on loan from Aston Villa) 22 - Joel Cotterill - Age 18 (on loan from Swansea) 23 - Alfie Pond - Age 19 (on loan from Wolves) Josh Popoola - Age 19 (on loan until Jan at Chorley) June 202519 - Kyle Wootton - Age 26 14 - Will Collar - Age 26 6 - Fraser Horsfall - Age 27 Joe Lewis - Age 23 (season long loan - AFC Wimbledon) 4 - Akil Wright - Age 27 8 - Callum Camps - Age 27 25 - Isaac Tanitoluwaloba Aduraoluwatimileyin 'Tanto' Olaofe - Age 23 Jack Stretton - Age 22 2 - Kyle Knoyle - Age 27 5 - Neill Byrne - Age 30 3 - Ibou Touray - Age 28 June 2026Dave Challinor - Age 48 11 - Nick Powell - Age 29 28 - Ashton Mee - Age 17 February 2272Edgeley Park - Age 131 years Is this the most up to date list still? Amazed that we’ve not extended Croasdale’s contract yet, given how crucial he is for us. Even if we brought in this mythical ‘Croasdale + better passing’ that some people imagine is out there, surely we’d want him as an important squad player? Johnson and Pye feel like obvious choices to extend. I’d give Sarce another contract, which I wasn’t sure about in the summer, but he’s been magnificent. Hinchliffe would get a year, even if we were to bring in a new GK in the summer - he’ll be a great cover goalkeeper and coach. Would extend Rydel, as think he has huge potential, despite occasionally frustrating me. And would like to see MSH stay too, despite his injury problems - he’s an excellent player. Fair enough if we brought in someone like Fevrier as competition for Knoyle instead, but otherwise would like to see Macca stay. I think you should only really start handing out contracts mid season if there is a real chance of someone leaving in the summer and I don’t think anyone falls into that category. Particularly when you’re not sure what division you’re going to be there should be no rush. Pye would have been the only one to tie down now but with the club having an option on an extra year even that doesn’t have to be rushed.
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Post by Philcounty on Dec 24, 2023 9:48:18 GMT
27 - Odin Bailey - Age 24 (Returned to Salford)
June 2024
1 - Ben Hinchliffe - Age 36
13 - Bobby Jones - Age 22 (on short term loan at Brackley)
12 - Jordan Smith - Age 29
7 - Macauley Southam-Hales - Age 27 INJURED due back ___
10- Antoni Sarcevic - Age 31 INJURED due back ___
17 - Ryan Rydel - Age 22 INJURED due back next season
9 - Paddy Madden - Age 33
18 - Ryan Croasdale - Age 29
21 - Myles Hippolyte - Age 29 INJURED due back ___
30 - Cody Johnson - Age 19
24 - Connor Evans - Age 26 (Season long loan - AFC Wimbledon)
15 - Ethan Pye - Age 20 (Option to extend) INJURED due back ___
Billy Chadwick - Age 23 (option +1yr) (Season long loan - Gateshead)
26 - Jayden Richardson - Age 22 (on loan from Aberdeen)
20 - Louie Barry - Age 20 (on loan from Aston Villa) INJURED due back ___
22 - Joel Cotterill - Age 18 (on loan from Swansea)
23 - Alfie Pond - Age 19 (on loan from Wolves)
Ethan Bristow -Age 22 (on loan from Minnesota Muffdinglers)
Josh Popoola - Age 19 (on loan until Jan at Warrington)
June 2025
19 - Kyle Wootton - Age 27
14 - Will Collar - Age 26 INJURED due back ___
6 - Fraser Horsfall - Age 27
Joe Lewis - Age 23 (season long loan - AFC Wimbledon)
4 - Akil Wright - Age 27
8 - Callum Camps - Age 28
25 - Isaac Tanitoluwaloba Aduraoluwatimileyin 'Tanto' Olaofe - Age 24
Jack Stretton - Age 22 INJURED due back next season
2 - Kyle Knoyle - Age 27 INJURED due back ___
5 - Neill Byrne - Age 30
3 - Ibou Touray - Age 29
June 2026
Dave Challinor - Age 48
11 - Nick Powell - Age 29
28 - Ashton Mee - Age 17
February 2272
Edgeley Park - Age 131 years
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Post by ancienthatter on Dec 24, 2023 11:35:33 GMT
Think I can count about 15 fit senior players in that list including 2 goalkeepers.. window can’t open soon enough.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Jan 1, 2024 18:06:14 GMT
This thread is really useful, but could we also include current injuries and expected return dates? I can’t keep up with how many are out for how long
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