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Post by hedleyverity on Apr 12, 2024 10:43:57 GMT
Fans talking about the future of players is perfectly natural, and this is a fans forum. Players who are out of contract will be looking at other opportunities, probably a few in contract players too, also fair and to be expected
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Post by philtheglass on Apr 12, 2024 10:47:24 GMT
but at the moment there should be only one thought in the mind of the players & the fans. There's a bit of sentiment though (me included) that: Promotion is secured / not 'that' bothered about the Title. Natural therefore to start looking ahead to next season and what might be. I drew up my retained list about a month ago
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Post by gibbo on Apr 12, 2024 10:48:19 GMT
It's not distasteful, it's just really shitty. You're right in your first sentence and I'm not personally remotely upset by it (and I doubt anyone is really) but it's still shitty. If the comments were, e.g. "Hippolyte has stole a wage in his time at the club, get him out at first opportunity", then I'd agree, but they're nothing of the sort, just a simple retain / release viewpoint.
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Post by gibbo on Apr 12, 2024 10:48:46 GMT
I drew up my retained list about a month ago You were confident Phil....
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Post by philtheglass on Apr 12, 2024 10:50:15 GMT
There's a bit of sentiment though (me included) that: Promotion is secured / not 'that' bothered about the Title. Natural therefore to start looking ahead to next season and what might be. I drew up my retained list about a month ago, & included players under contract who i feel happy to release if the right offer came in
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Post by sydneyexile on Apr 12, 2024 10:58:50 GMT
This thread is truly heading to ZEBRA opinions territory
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Post by timberwolf on Apr 12, 2024 11:08:42 GMT
It's just realistic, these discussions will be going on right now behind closed doors. Distasteful would be discussing stuff like this in front of a player but this is an internet forum about Stockport County. Anyway, i'll leave it now seen as a few of you seem to be getting upset by it. It's not distasteful, it's just really shitty. You're right in your first sentence and I'm not personally remotely upset by it (and I doubt anyone is really) but it's still shitty. That said, like I say, it doesn't bother me, as long as people's knickers don't bunch up when the odd player appears to crap on us... Once we were glad to see the back of certain players and most who were not retained never played another game of pro football again after leaving us. Doubt any fan gave a toss about them then. Just because we have become succesful with decent players now going to leave i can see no reason why fans should become so warm about them. Its like when a poor player leaves us there is always somebody who can remember a 45 minutes of glory they had but forget the games they were crap in a season ot two later.
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Post by bigmartin on Apr 12, 2024 12:50:36 GMT
It's not distasteful, it's just really shitty. You're right in your first sentence and I'm not personally remotely upset by it (and I doubt anyone is really) but it's still shitty. That said, like I say, it doesn't bother me, as long as people's knickers don't bunch up when the odd player appears to crap on us... Once we were glad to see the back of certain players and most who were not retained never played another game of pro football again after leaving us. Doubt any fan gave a toss about them then. Just because we have become succesful with decent players now going to leave i can see no reason why fans should become so warm about them. Its like when a poor player leaves us there is always somebody who can remember a 45 minutes of glory they had but forget the games they were crap in a season ot two later. I can't bring myself to feel so cold about players who (it is assumed) will have taken us into the third tier for the first time in eons. I just can't. So emotional...
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Post by ancienthatter on Apr 12, 2024 19:10:11 GMT
Christ, we've officially gone insane as a fanbase this week. Take me back to the Skrill North ffs. Yep.. all 15 or so of you on here having this chat.. I’m guessing the other 9,000 there tomorrow will just go with what happens instinctively without checking on here for what’s the right thing to do.
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Post by hedleyverity on Apr 12, 2024 19:19:08 GMT
Christ, we've officially gone insane as a fanbase this week. Take me back to the Skrill North ffs. Yep.. all 15 or so of you on here having this chat.. I’m guessing the other 9,000 there tomorrow will just go with what happens instinctively without checking on here for what’s the right thing to do. Up to them, but it’s worth doing the extra for a crispy base IMO
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Post by philtheglass on Apr 12, 2024 19:46:32 GMT
Christ, we've officially gone insane as a fanbase this week. Take me back to the Skrill North ffs. Yep.. all 15 or so of you on here having this chat.. I’m guessing the other 9,000 there tomorrow will just go with what happens instinctively without checking on here for what’s the right thing to do. Guessing the majority of that 9000, won't have a clue who's out of contract at the end of the season.....
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Post by mat1scfc on Apr 12, 2024 21:01:37 GMT
Christ, we've officially gone insane as a fanbase this week. Take me back to the Skrill North ffs. Yep.. all 15 or so of you on here having this chat.. I’m guessing the other 9,000 there tomorrow will just go with what happens instinctively without checking on here for what’s the right thing to do. loads of people have debated it on twitter too
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Apr 12, 2024 22:44:10 GMT
of those who's contracts run out this summer i'd go with the following - Retained Ethan Pye - 3 year deal Ryan Rydel - 1 year Ben Hinchliffe - 1 year Paddy Madden - 1 year Antoni Sarcevic - 1 year (he may not even take a year and look elsewhere for the security of a 2 year deal) Louie Barry - loan him for another year if poss, or could even take the risk and try and buy him as maybe the cost would be less than pre injury ReleasedRyan Croasdale Myles Hippolyte Connor Evans Cody Johnson Macauley Southam-Hales (maybe we can work something out where he stays with us and rehabilitates on some kind of contract on less money, then does a pay as you play on proper money) Jordan Smith Bobby Jones All the other loan players Sorry but please not rydel. Doubt we,d have seen much of him anyway if he hadn,t have been injured. Never can see what others see in the lad myself apart from a couple of flashes he shows in games. Not sure DC rates him that high as a league 2 player never mind a league 1 one. Seems to shout at him more than others. A manager shouting at a player more than others doesn't mean he doesn't rate him. It could mean the opposite when he's trying to get the best out of him and to help him reach his potential. On contracts I've seen it suggested that Ben's extension clause (for appearances) has rolled over with the extra year he got. Which would mean he has at least another year on if he wants it.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Apr 12, 2024 22:45:20 GMT
Maybe it's the Gannon influence on me but feel we have a duty to look after a player who has done a good job for us and is out long term injured in MSH. The club aren't short of money and when fit he has been excellent. He wouldn't be able to sign elsewhere due to the injury so I'd be really surprised if the club don't at the very least keep him on a rolling deal whilst he returns to fitness. I think we'll give him a year anyway though. DC also said around the time of his knee exploding that the club would give him the chance to get back fit. He's going nowhere.
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Post by timberwolf on Apr 13, 2024 8:47:01 GMT
Once we were glad to see the back of certain players and most who were not retained never played another game of pro football again after leaving us. Doubt any fan gave a toss about them then. Just because we have become succesful with decent players now going to leave i can see no reason why fans should become so warm about them. Its like when a poor player leaves us there is always somebody who can remember a 45 minutes of glory they had but forget the games they were crap in a season ot two later. I can't bring myself to feel so cold about players who (it is assumed) will have taken us into the third tier for the first time in eons. I just can't. So emotional... Possibly thats where we differ. Been told by others i do not have a heart, but prefer it that way than keeping everyone from this season and then possibly seeing the side struggle next season. You know what will come up then. Why were players X,Y and Z retained and some will turn quickly on their old hero,s.
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