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Post by Barmy Blue Army on May 19, 2022 22:00:41 GMT
Some of the reactions of the Swindon players who missed were a bit bizarre. The first one tried to laugh it off and smile, which I sort of get (laugh or cry) but it didn't come across well to me. McKirdy, I think, ex-Vale so maybe knew he was going to get pelters but didn't help that he was like Crankshaw with less end product in the game.
The second one looked absolutely shocked like he couldn't believed he missed. Kept looking back at the goal. Last one I couldn't see as it was all over and invasion.
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Post by desmond on May 19, 2022 22:02:28 GMT
More scrapping on the pitch by the look of it at Port Vale. Swindon players trying to get off after the penalties and got swarmed by Vale fans. It's probably just me being grumpy...but the thick b*stards could have stood right next to the exit rather than in the middle of the pitch (waiting for the celebrations if it went their way right?). Bound to be swarmed really when they stand where they stand...almost impossible not to be. I think rules dictate that all players stay in the centre circle while penalties are being taken. Also as you’ve said elsewhere about the Viera incident, those players are in their place of work,not up to them to be getting out of the way of any idiots. |
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Post by bigmartin on May 19, 2022 22:04:39 GMT
I had to laugh on the BBC at 'Shroedinger's Shot on Goal' earlier in the game...  If a player in a forest takes a shot which is on target but doesn't dip down enough and goes over the bar...is it a goal? |
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on May 19, 2022 22:05:51 GMT
More scrapping on the pitch by the look of it at Port Vale. Swindon players trying to get off after the penalties and got swarmed by Vale fans. It's probably just me being grumpy...but the thick b*stards could have stood right next to the exit rather than in the middle of the pitch (waiting for the celebrations if it went their way right?). Bound to be swarmed really when they stand where they stand...almost impossible not to be. Bit unfair to me. That's where all teams stand for pens, in the centre circle. If he had scored they were still in it. Why should they have to stand off to the side as the away team? Surely it's giving the other side a psychological edge as well if you're ready to run off if you miss - hardly inspires confidence in your taker too! A bit like telling young woman not to walk around alone at night or wear revealing clothing in case rapists are about (a bit extreme comparison). You're looking at the wrong party. |
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Post by bigmartin on May 19, 2022 22:07:50 GMT
It's probably just me being grumpy...but the thick b*stards could have stood right next to the exit rather than in the middle of the pitch (waiting for the celebrations if it went their way right?). Bound to be swarmed really when they stand where they stand...almost impossible not to be. I think rules dictate that all players stay in the centre circle while penalties are being taken. Also as you’ve said elsewhere about the Viera incident, those players are in their place of work,not up to them to be getting out of the way of any idiots. I agree. But life's a learning process. They know there's going to be a pitch invasion. Perhaps it's time to account for it. Course it shouldn't really be happening. Even if it was nice when we did it. |
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Post by bigmartin on May 19, 2022 22:12:12 GMT
It's probably just me being grumpy...but the thick b*stards could have stood right next to the exit rather than in the middle of the pitch (waiting for the celebrations if it went their way right?). Bound to be swarmed really when they stand where they stand...almost impossible not to be. Bit unfair to me. That's where all teams stand for pens, in the centre circle. If he had scored they were still in it. Why should they have to stand off to the side as the away team? Surely it's giving the other side a psychological edge as well if you're ready to run off if you miss - hardly inspires confidence in your taker too! A bit like telling young woman not to walk around alone at night or wear revealing clothing in case rapists are about (a bit extreme comparison). You're looking at the wrong party. Life's unfair. They've either got to stop the invasions, or do something to account for the invasion happening. A bit like women, in your example, probably don't go wandering down dark alleys at night even though they should be able to. What would you prefer? Sanctions against the club for the pitch invasion (points deductions, match abandoned, and so forth) or a bit of common sense being shown ("guys, I'm blowing up in 10 seconds, make your way off the pitch" or "guys, head nearer to the tunnel as I think there will be a pitch invasion") ?? To be honest I don't massively give a toss really. The Billy Sharpe thing's been dealt with and that kind of thing happens all over the country a zillion times a day anyhow. Other than that, Vieira, players being hassled...meh. Who cares? Be forgotten about next week. |
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Post by Sina on May 19, 2022 22:12:15 GMT
More scrapping on the pitch by the look of it at Port Vale. Swindon players trying to get off after the penalties and got swarmed by Vale fans. Think it was just a few Vale fans having a bit of a dispute over who's Uncle Dad had the biggest tail. |
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on May 19, 2022 22:22:27 GMT
Bit unfair to me. That's where all teams stand for pens, in the centre circle. If he had scored they were still in it. Why should they have to stand off to the side as the away team? Surely it's giving the other side a psychological edge as well if you're ready to run off if you miss - hardly inspires confidence in your taker too! A bit like telling young woman not to walk around alone at night or wear revealing clothing in case rapists are about (a bit extreme comparison). You're looking at the wrong party. Life's unfair. They've either got to stop the invasions, or do something to account for the invasion happening. A bit like women, in your example, probably don't go wandering down dark alleys at night even though they should be able to. What would you prefer? Sanctions against the club for the pitch invasion (points deductions, match abandoned, and so forth) or a bit of common sense being shown ("guys, I'm blowing up in 10 seconds, make your way off the pitch" or "guys, head nearer to the tunnel as I think there will be a pitch invasion") ?? To be honest I don't massively give a toss really. The Billy Sharpe thing's been dealt with and that kind of thing happens all over the country a zillion times a day anyhow. Other than that, Vieira, players being hassled...meh. Who cares? Be forgotten about next week. The onus should be on the stewards, police and most importantly celebrating fans, not the players going about what they are paid to do. I agree your 10 second warning makes sense where a game is done and dusted like Nuneaton but this was a penalty shootout, Vale weren't guaranteed to win from that penalty. Similarly, you can't do that in a 1-0 game where an equaliser affects the end result or it impacts the sporting integrity. I'd prefer no sanctions but we have to get a grip of these idiots not accommodate them. Re your last point you could say the same about hooliganism and that wasn't accepted and we've made great strides to cut it out. Just because it happens elsewhere doesn't mean we should ignore it. |
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Post by Philcounty on May 19, 2022 22:26:13 GMT
The Burslem massive are still knuckle dragging notrights I see.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2022 22:51:05 GMT
It absolutely beggars belief that after that incident at Forest and the subsequent jail sentence, all within the last 48 hours, that your decision making as a Port Vale fan is to run directly at the opposition players in that moment.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on May 19, 2022 22:52:10 GMT
It absolutely beggars belief that after that incident at Forest and the subsequent jail sentence, all within the last 48 hours, that your decision making as a Port Vale fan is to run directly at the opposition players in that moment. I genuinely think it encourages some. Gives them the idea and they want the notoriety or to try to goad them into attacking them. |
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Post by AllyF on May 20, 2022 0:02:18 GMT
Especially when it's live on TV and the Swindon players are in bright yellow and can't be missed. Hope Mansfield hammer them!
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Post by suedehead on May 20, 2022 8:10:08 GMT
It absolutely beggars belief that after that incident at Forest and the subsequent jail sentence, all within the last 48 hours, that your decision making as a Port Vale fan is to run directly at the opposition players in that moment. That Forest incident frightens me, how easy it is to ruin your life. He didn't wake up on Tuesday deciding to go and smack Billy Sharp. He'd probably been at work all day, gone for a few pints before the game in the same way we did last Wednesday against Torquay and then got fired up at the game. Even when he ran on the pitch I doubt he had it in his head he was going to go and attack Sharp, it's just some dumb split second decision and it's cost him. From a probably totally normal life to being in prison for 24 weeks for something as stupid as that. Bet he can't even explain why he did it. |
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Post by popeye on May 20, 2022 8:16:35 GMT
It absolutely beggars belief that after that incident at Forest and the subsequent jail sentence, all within the last 48 hours, that your decision making as a Port Vale fan is to run directly at the opposition players in that moment. That Forest incident frightens me, how easy it is to ruin your life. He didn't wake up on Tuesday deciding to go and smack Billy Sharp. He'd probably been at work all day, gone for a few pints before the game in the same way we did last Wednesday against Torquay and then got fired up at the game. Even when he ran on the pitch I doubt he had it in his head he was going to go and attack Sharp, it's just some dumb split second decision and it's cost him. From a probably totally normal life to being in prison for 24 weeks for something as stupid as that. Bet he can't even explain why he did it. The sad thing is that he can be out in 12 Weeks if he behaves. Billy Sharp could have suffered life changing injuries (fortunately he didn't). He even tried to defend his actions in court saying it was an accident. His sentence is far to lenient in my opinion. |
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Post by Stranded Hatter on May 20, 2022 8:44:22 GMT
I had to laugh on the BBC at 'Shroedinger's Shot on Goal' earlier in the game... If a player in a forest takes a shot which is on target but doesn't dip down enough and goes over the bar...is it a goal? I enjoyed when the commentator said that Vale haven’t taken a penalty in over a year... only for a few minutes later one of them to say both teams had lost a penalty shootout this season... |
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