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Post by Imposter on Mar 8, 2023 11:11:47 GMT
I'm sure stott and Co have ideas and are thinking, I understand its tough because of the location of the ground but I hope we get a car park sorted for next season. I mean a proper one. I go with family which require blue badge and the closest we get is infront of the library. But we're getting there 3 hours before KO and we don't buy any food or drink in the ground unless we really need it so we end up sitting there for longer than the match lasts. Doubt we will see one big enough for fans. One big enough for blue badge holders and those who travel miles to home matches is what it needs. Really those two catogary of fan have no other option if they want to see a game and for me after driving 45 miles to EP i do not want to walk to and from the town centre or hang around for a park and ride in both directions. Last saturday all i wanted was to get to hell out of the place as quickly as possible and get home. I know numerous County fans who travel considerably further than that to get to EP, using public transport. That you're not prepared for a 15 minute stroll having already driven for about an hour probably to me suggests a degree of laziness on your part. Those physically unable to walk/struggling mobility issues sure cater for them to the fullest extent possible - but the lazy, not so sure.
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Post by hedleyverity on Mar 8, 2023 11:15:49 GMT
Doubt we will see one big enough for fans. One big enough for blue badge holders and those who travel miles to home matches is what it needs. Really those two catogary of fan have no other option if they want to see a game and for me after driving 45 miles to EP i do not want to walk to and from the town centre or hang around for a park and ride in both directions. Last saturday all i wanted was to get to hell out of the place as quickly as possible and get home. I know numerous County fans who travel considerably further than that to get to EP, using public transport. That you're not prepared for a 15 minute stroll having already driven for about an hour probably to me suggests a degree of laziness on your part. Those physically unable to walk/struggling mobility issues sure cater for them to the fullest extent possible - but the lazy, not so sure. 2 to 2.5 hours each way for me, would much rather get the train than drive but that’s no longer possible with the utter shambles that Trans Pennine Express have become. It had never occurred to me that this should entitle me to a parking space but I’ll take it as long as I get a presidential style police escort to whisk me through the plebs and back to the M60
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Post by timberwolf on Mar 8, 2023 11:41:53 GMT
Doubt we will see one big enough for fans. One big enough for blue badge holders and those who travel miles to home matches is what it needs. Really those two catogary of fan have no other option if they want to see a game and for me after driving 45 miles to EP i do not want to walk to and from the town centre or hang around for a park and ride in both directions. Last saturday all i wanted was to get to hell out of the place as quickly as possible and get home. I know numerous County fans who travel considerably further than that to get to EP, using public transport. That you're not prepared for a 15 minute stroll having already driven for about an hour probably to me suggests a degree of laziness on your part. Those physically unable to walk/struggling mobility issues sure cater for them to the fullest extent possible - but the lazy, not so sure. It would mean 3 trains for me to come by public transport for a start. Its not lazyness after driving 90 minutes as when its cool i get there early and take my dog for a 45 minute walk. My choice the same as it is for those prepared to stroll 15 minutes before and at the end of games. Never once asked for any special priveledges from the club, as for years my journey was a hell of a lot longer than it is now regarding parking or ticket allocations.
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Post by Imposter on Mar 8, 2023 12:27:53 GMT
I know numerous County fans who travel considerably further than that to get to EP, using public transport. That you're not prepared for a 15 minute stroll having already driven for about an hour probably to me suggests a degree of laziness on your part. Those physically unable to walk/struggling mobility issues sure cater for them to the fullest extent possible - but the lazy, not so sure. It would mean 3 trains for me to come by public transport for a start. Its not lazyness after driving 90 minutes as when its cool i get there early and take my dog for a 45 minute walk. My choice the same as it is for those prepared to stroll 15 minutes before and at the end of games. Never once asked for any special priveledges from the club, as for years my journey was a hell of a lot longer than it is now regarding parking or ticket allocations. Your choice entirely yes. But there is, and is going to be very very limited space for parking. So priority will need to be - 1) Those who actually have physical issues/mobility issues that mean they can't walk/walk far/walk far without severe pain. 2) Club officials, players, football staff, directors etc... 3) Arguably away coaches. 4) Or 3) The rest of us hoi-polloi. Other than that all the club can do is direct people to other parking facilities no matter how far away, direct people to public transport, advise regarding parking restrictions, and work with the council and local residents/councillors to minimise parking and traffic disruption. That's it, unless you advocate the club moving to some out of town bowl with 3000 parking spaces. You know the restrictions, you know as games get more popular and we grow there's a good chance you might have to park further away. Whinging about it just seemed unnecessary and a bit moany. There's not suddenly going to be a 500 space general fan use car park at EP, deal with it.
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Post by timberwolf on Mar 8, 2023 12:52:53 GMT
Not moaning about it as it is what it is. Prefer to be like what it is than going to donny rovers paying a fiver a game just to park up next to the ground. No wonder their gates have dropped now their club is in decline.
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Post by ldjh79 on Mar 9, 2023 0:14:31 GMT
Not moaning about it as it is what it is. Prefer to be like what it is than going to donny rovers paying a fiver a game just to park up next to the ground. No wonder their gates have dropped now their club is in decline. It was always handy a few years back parking behind the RE in the official club car park before new builds started. Think it was only about £3? Very easy and convenient when you arrived with stewards to direct you but leaving after full time was comical, fans running to their cars, every man for himself to get gone and stewards had clocked off left gates open, car park rage and arguing with all the fans walking past the exit gate.
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Post by jkb9b on Mar 9, 2023 7:49:45 GMT
The plot thickens. I've received a map of the matchday parking restrictions around Edgeley Park, the relevant section of which is shown below. The map shows, as desmond suggested on Page 2 of this thread, that the EPS ("Edgeley Park Stadium," I assume) Zone shown in red extends all the way down Dale Street to where Zone 4, shown in green, starts. On the face of it, there shouldn't be anywhere on Dale Street you can park without a permit when County are playing. When you get there, however, there are no corresponding road markings between the double yellows and the start of Zone 4 to show that it's part of the EPS Zone. I'll have to wait until the council make their next move before I can raise this anomaly with the them, although I'm contemplating paying the £70 rather then tell them and risk having a yellow line appear which would remove any doubt and prevent me and others using my favourite spot.
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Post by alkringtonhatter on Mar 9, 2023 8:33:56 GMT
It’s not going to be a case of either driving or public transport. Nobody will be stopping anyone driving, you just might either have to pay the market rate to park closer, or enjoy a pre-match stroll from a little further out. Personally coming from the very northern fringe of Manchester, it’s either a half hour drive round the M60 or over an hour via bus then train. The latter allows the chance of a pint pre and post, and often ends in an Uber home from Heaton Hops. Moving to a flat pack next to a multi-storey would be soul-destroying.
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Post by timberwolf on Mar 9, 2023 9:23:37 GMT
. Moving to a flat pack next to a multi-storey would be soul-destroying. Think very few would be happy about that, but if our planned EP expansion gets either turned down or delayed it could come back on the agenda. If that did happen it will still be County but not quite the same as it is now. Many flatpacks are an improvement on dying old grounds but its never the same feeling you have about them even if you visit just once a year. Keepmoat V Belle Vue is a good example.
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Post by redhatter on Mar 9, 2023 9:35:47 GMT
It would mean 3 trains for me to come by public transport for a start. Its not lazyness after driving 90 minutes as when its cool i get there early and take my dog for a 45 minute walk. My choice the same as it is for those prepared to stroll 15 minutes before and at the end of games. Never once asked for any special priveledges from the club, as for years my journey was a hell of a lot longer than it is now regarding parking or ticket allocations. Your choice entirely yes. But there is, and is going to be very very limited space for parking. So priority will need to be - 1) Those who actually have physical issues/mobility issues that mean they can't walk/walk far/walk far without severe pain. 2) Club officials, players, football staff, directors etc... 3) Arguably away coaches. 4) Or 3) The rest of us hoi-polloi. Other than that all the club can do is direct people to other parking facilities no matter how far away, direct people to public transport, advise regarding parking restrictions, and work with the council and local residents/councillors to minimise parking and traffic disruption. That's it, unless you advocate the club moving to some out of town bowl with 3000 parking spaces. You know the restrictions, you know as games get more popular and we grow there's a good chance you might have to park further away. Whinging about it just seemed unnecessary and a bit moany. There's not suddenly going to be a 500 space general fan use car park at EP, deal with it. I know it's not an answer for everyone, but I do think the Club should be encouraging everyone to travel on public transport as much as possible. For example, they could provide a discount on food at the County Courtyard and inside the concourse, as an incentive. And as people aren't driving, they can have a drink, which will help sales at the Club, so it would work both ways. As the stadium and our attendances expand, parking is going to become a bigger and bigger problem. Until June, all bus journeys are £2 each way as the government are subsidising the prices. No one can argue with that. I've started taking the 199 to games, it's normally £4 each way, so can't complain at £2!
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Post by mat1scfc on Mar 9, 2023 10:00:03 GMT
Your choice entirely yes. But there is, and is going to be very very limited space for parking. So priority will need to be - 1) Those who actually have physical issues/mobility issues that mean they can't walk/walk far/walk far without severe pain. 2) Club officials, players, football staff, directors etc... 3) Arguably away coaches. 4) Or 3) The rest of us hoi-polloi. Other than that all the club can do is direct people to other parking facilities no matter how far away, direct people to public transport, advise regarding parking restrictions, and work with the council and local residents/councillors to minimise parking and traffic disruption. That's it, unless you advocate the club moving to some out of town bowl with 3000 parking spaces. You know the restrictions, you know as games get more popular and we grow there's a good chance you might have to park further away. Whinging about it just seemed unnecessary and a bit moany. There's not suddenly going to be a 500 space general fan use car park at EP, deal with it. I know it's not an answer for everyone, but I do think the Club should be encouraging everyone to travel on public transport as much as possible. For example, they could provide a discount on food at the County Courtyard and inside the concourse, as an incentive. And as people aren't driving, they can have a drink, which will help sales at the Club, so it would work both ways. As the stadium and our attendances expand, parking is going to become a bigger and bigger problem. Until June, all bus journeys are £2 each way as the government are subsidising the prices. No one can argue with that. I've started taking the 199 to games, it's normally £4 each way, so can't complain at £2! they probably could sort the discounts out but if you own a season ticket then you get a 10% discount anyway in the courtyard/concourse/shop on certain things so adding another discount would mean we'd lose more money
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Post by desmond on Mar 9, 2023 10:13:32 GMT
The plot thickens. I've received a map of the matchday parking restrictions around Edgeley Park, the relevant section of which is shown below. The map shows, as desmond suggested on Page 2 of this thread, that the EPS ("Edgeley Park Stadium," I assume) Zone shown in red extends all the way down Dale Street to where Zone 4, shown in green, starts. On the face of it, there shouldn't be anywhere on Dale Street you can park without a permit when County are playing. When you get there, however, there are no corresponding road markings between the double yellows and the start of Zone 4 to show that it's part of the EPS Zone. I'll have to wait until the council make their next move before I can raise this anomaly with the them, although I'm contemplating paying the £70 rather then tell them and risk having a yellow line appear which would remove any doubt and prevent me and others using my favourite spot. View AttachmentIt seems to be as I thought but at same time doesn’t really make any sense. Also all of these different numbered Zones don’t make sense either, all they need is a single outer zone clearly marked as such. The only reason for different zone numbers would be if the restrictions were different in each area dependent upon certain things like days/events and that is clearly not the case at EP. I understand your thinking about whether to pay or appeal, however bare in mind that if you do pay rather than appeal based on being able to continue to park there you will run the risk of getting another ticket. Good luck with it all.
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Post by timberwolf on Mar 9, 2023 10:35:36 GMT
I know it's not an answer for everyone, but I do think the Club should be encouraging everyone to travel on public transport as much as possible. For example, they could provide a discount on food at the County Courtyard and inside the concourse, as an incentive. And as people aren't driving, they can have a drink, which will help sales at the Club, so it would work both ways. As the stadium and our attendances expand, parking is going to become a bigger and bigger problem. Until June, all bus journeys are £2 each way as the government are subsidising the prices. No one can argue with that. I've started taking the 199 to games, it's normally £4 each way, so can't complain at £2! Think it should go further than the club to encourage the use of public transport. If you do not use it on other occasions when you can people are not going to use it once a fortnight to come to EP. I live about 2 minutes walk from a bus stop with at least 4 buses a hour running but in the morning its taxi,s that are king. The few times i go to valley parade i go by public transport but cannot gp the same distance to the shay as the powers that be put the last bus earlier on a saturday to 1655 for me. The 2 quid job is good but its not about the money for everyone its the conveniance factor that comes into it.
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Post by redhatter on Mar 9, 2023 10:44:04 GMT
I know it's not an answer for everyone, but I do think the Club should be encouraging everyone to travel on public transport as much as possible. For example, they could provide a discount on food at the County Courtyard and inside the concourse, as an incentive. And as people aren't driving, they can have a drink, which will help sales at the Club, so it would work both ways. As the stadium and our attendances expand, parking is going to become a bigger and bigger problem. Until June, all bus journeys are £2 each way as the government are subsidising the prices. No one can argue with that. I've started taking the 199 to games, it's normally £4 each way, so can't complain at £2! Think it should go further than the club to encourage the use of public transport. If you do not use it on other occasions when you can people are not going to use it once a fortnight to come to EP. I live about 2 minutes walk from a bus stop with at least 4 buses a hour running but in the morning its taxi,s that are king. The few times i go to valley parade i go by public transport but cannot gp the same distance to the shay as the powers that be put the last bus earlier on a saturday to 1655 for me. The 2 quid job is good but its not about the money for everyone its the conveniance factor that comes into it. I don't use public transport during the week, because I can't get to work without a lot of inconvenience, changes and cost, so I am not going to. However, I can get the 199 from the end of my road to Stockport. At £2 for the journey, £4 return, it's about the same cost as the petrol, I don't have the hassle of parking and I can have a few drinks if I want to. As I've said, it won't be convenient for everyone, but the majority of County's support will live on a direct bus or train route into Stockport. And when the bus fares are only £2, it makes sense to me for the Club to encourage people not to use cars. If the Club can add some incentives, that work for both parties, what is to lose?
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Post by timberwolf on Mar 9, 2023 11:15:16 GMT
Think it should go further than the club to encourage the use of public transport. If you do not use it on other occasions when you can people are not going to use it once a fortnight to come to EP. I live about 2 minutes walk from a bus stop with at least 4 buses a hour running but in the morning its taxi,s that are king. The few times i go to valley parade i go by public transport but cannot gp the same distance to the shay as the powers that be put the last bus earlier on a saturday to 1655 for me. The 2 quid job is good but its not about the money for everyone its the conveniance factor that comes into it. I don't use public transport during the week, because I can't get to work without a lot of inconvenience, changes and cost, so I am not going to. However, I can get the 199 from the end of my road to Stockport. At £2 for the journey, £4 return, it's about the same cost as the petrol, I don't have the hassle of parking and I can have a few drinks if I want to. As I've said, it won't be convenient for everyone, but the majority of County's support will live on a direct bus or train route into Stockport. And when the bus fares are only £2, it makes sense to me for the Club to encourage people not to use cars. If the Club can add some incentives, that work for both parties, what is to lose? That does make complete sense to me but i have a couple of howevers though. With train strikes you can knock that on the head till everything is resolved. As for buses, unless its better in stockport than in my area, the number of journeys missed through staff shortage and vehicle unavailability if your bus does not turn up either way i doubt people will be eager to give it another go with a car standing on the drive doing nothing.
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