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Post by timberwolf on May 24, 2024 9:21:29 GMT
If they start putting up statues of him, I'm moving🤣 the BBC did show the "mural". (cringe) Surely if he became a world cup winner he will get the same national coverage the same as the 1966 one got and deserves some recognition from his own town. A statue maybe one step too far, however i,d even prefer to look at one of him rather than one of the past that displays a monarch.
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Post by bredburybusquets on May 24, 2024 9:49:33 GMT
If Stockport Council wanted to have a private reception for him in the event of a major tournament win for England involving him then I suppose I could just about stand it but anything of a more permanent nature absolutely not, He made his choice.
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Post by edjelley on May 24, 2024 9:54:50 GMT
If they start putting up statues of him, I'm moving🤣 the BBC did show the "mural". (cringe) And a mural which is on the back of the church from which County were formed. It sounds churlish to complain about it but there's something not right about a building which should be completely linked to County having a player from another team on it. I wish we didn't have to bring the subject up like this but we're always in a constant battle for recognition in our own town. City ad a club have undermined County for decades with their active targeting of support from Stockport residents. At least things have improved recently.
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Post by Count de Stockport on May 24, 2024 9:58:50 GMT
the BBC did show the "mural". (cringe) And a mural which is on the back of the church from which County were formed. It sounds churlish to complain about it but there's something not right about a building which should be completely linked to County having a player from another team on it. I wish we didn't have to bring the subject up like this but we're always in a constant battle for recognition in our own town. City ad a club have undermined County for decades with their active targeting of support from Stockport residents. At least things have improved recently. As I've said elsewhere, Citeh may laugh at the thought of them regarding us as their rivals, but it's true off the pitch even if it isn't on the pitch Re. a Foden mural in Stockport - I wouldn't have a problem if he was depicted in an England kit. But yeh, maybe not on the site of County's foundation
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Post by edjelley on May 24, 2024 10:17:19 GMT
City currently at 33/1 to be relegated 👀👀 Compared to Liverpool & Arsenal at 2000/1, for context! If Citeh are relegated it will only be a suspended sentence IMO They have obviously broken the rules, then covered it up and should be punished but ultimately, in this case, it is the owner of a football club spending their own money on their own football club… the day that becomes unacceptable the Premier League is finished; a “Super League” would be green lit immediately! I have far bigger issues with owners who load clubs with debt With respect,it isn't ultimately the owner of a club just spending their money...you're missing the important point. It's about all teams abiding by the same rules they all agreed to adhere to. There may well be other clubs who also wanted to spend more money,but didn't because they felt they should keep within the rules agreed. If one club,whether city or anyone else deliberately breaks those rules,signs players others couldn't, then it's a major unfair advantage. Look how Leicester were affected having to balance the books and I think wolves too? If City,or anyone else are found guilty of such a scale of charges it is not some small indiscretion. It is massive. However I'm not sure,and nobody knows if they will be proven guilty and if not,the Premier league will look very bad. It will be interesting either way as I can't see the other clubs being happy if all the charges just fizzle out after so long.who knows how it will end up? I don't think this super league is dead yet. I think you are dead right though about owners loading clubs with debt. I have some sympathy with city fans who see how the Glazers have done that to United and yet were allowed to without scrutiny or accountability. That's where I take your point about owners own money but the rules have to be agreed or altered collectively.
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Post by timberwolf on May 24, 2024 10:32:45 GMT
If Stockport Council wanted to have a private reception for him in the event of a major tournament win for England involving him then I suppose I could just about stand it but anything of a more permanent nature absolutely not, He made his choice. But as its been just said if he was depicted in his England shirt and it was about his exploits for the international and not his club side then why is there a problem. The choice he made at the time was no choice when you look at County v city in that period. If anyone was his parent and looking for his future would you have refused city to come into your house just because a big number of the towns fans hate that club. Its not as if he was around in the USSR time and he was being recruited as a spy for the KGB.
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Post by bredburybusquets on May 24, 2024 10:49:57 GMT
If Stockport Council wanted to have a private reception for him in the event of a major tournament win for England involving him then I suppose I could just about stand it but anything of a more permanent nature absolutely not, He made his choice. But as its been just said if he was depicted in his England shirt and it was about his exploits for the international and not his club side then why is there a problem. The choice he made at the time was no choice when you look at County v city in that period. If anyone was his parent and looking for his future would you have refused city to come into your house just because a big number of the towns fans hate that club. Its not as if he was around in the USSR time and he was being recruited as a spy for the KGB. It's all about association, you could depict him in his grundies but everyone would know he was a city player. Better for all concerned if football statues are placed at football venues. I doubt County would have a chance of having a player or manager's statue placed in the town centre. "Made his choice" was supposed to be tongue in cheek.
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Post by sk8ballboy on May 24, 2024 11:52:04 GMT
I think Foden will one day be disappointed when he realises he's played for a manager banned for using performance enhancing drugs in Italy and who is also linked to the current referee bribery investigation in Spain. Furthermore, his employers are also denying the following 115 charges. Guardiola has a lot of bad luck....weird.
• 54x Failure to provide accurate financial information 2009-10 to 2017-18.
• 14x Failure to provide accurate details for player and manager payments from 2009-10 to 2017-18.
• 5x Failure to comply with Uefa's rules including Financial Fair Play (FFP) 2013-14 to 2017-18.
• 7x Breaching Premier League's PSR rules 2015-16 to 2017-18.
• 35x Failure to co-operate with Premier League investigations December 2018 - Feb 2023.
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Post by timberwolf on May 24, 2024 11:53:59 GMT
But as its been just said if he was depicted in his England shirt and it was about his exploits for the international and not his club side then why is there a problem. The choice he made at the time was no choice when you look at County v city in that period. If anyone was his parent and looking for his future would you have refused city to come into your house just because a big number of the towns fans hate that club. Its not as if he was around in the USSR time and he was being recruited as a spy for the KGB. It's all about association, you could depict him in his grundies but everyone would know he was a city player. Better for all concerned if football statues are placed at football venues. I doubt County would have a chance of having a player or manager's statue placed in the town centre. "Made his choice" was supposed to be tongue in cheek. Could take it further by having even less statues about than adding to more especially sportsmen or women where more residents have never seen them than the number of them have. Many residents of any town do not even have a passing interest in any sport and even some mancunians could not name a single city player from the present or the past.
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Post by timberwolf on May 24, 2024 11:58:23 GMT
I think Foden will one day be disappointed when he realises he's played for a manager banned for using performance enhancing drugs in Italy and who is also linked to the current referee bribery investigation in Spain. Furthermore, his employers are also denying the following 115 charges. Guardiola has a lot of bad luck....weird. • 54x Failure to provide accurate financial information 2009-10 to 2017-18. • 14x Failure to provide accurate details for player and manager payments from 2009-10 to 2017-18. • 5x Failure to comply with Uefa's rules including Financial Fair Play (FFP) 2013-14 to 2017-18. • 7x Breaching Premier League's PSR rules 2015-16 to 2017-18. • 35x Failure to co-operate with Premier League investigations December 2018 - Feb 2023. Still waiting to see a mass exudus from the place with him and others wanting to go on the transfer list or will be in a big hurry either to send their medals back now or if they are ever found guilty.
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Post by palmersears on May 24, 2024 13:59:15 GMT
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Post by scfc73 on May 24, 2024 16:52:09 GMT
If I was a Utd fan I'd want him out . Maybe the language barrier plays a part but he comes across as very uninspiring in interviews & often talks a load of nonsense. He came in on the basis of his attacking style at Ajax but I read an interview with him a while back where he said he was unable to implement the same style as he didn't have the players necessary to do so, but he's had 4 transfer windows & spent upwards of something like 400 million! They've had their injury problems granted, but he's not shy of using that as an excuse either. Compared to our manager who had an equally if not more injury depleted squad but rarely used it as an excuse & still won a title. Give me Chally over Ten-hag any day of the week😁
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Post by edjelley on May 24, 2024 18:17:46 GMT
I think Foden will one day be disappointed when he realises he's played for a manager banned for using performance enhancing drugs in Italy and who is also linked to the current referee bribery investigation in Spain. Furthermore, his employers are also denying the following 115 charges. Guardiola has a lot of bad luck....weird. • 54x Failure to provide accurate financial information 2009-10 to 2017-18. • 14x Failure to provide accurate details for player and manager payments from 2009-10 to 2017-18. • 5x Failure to comply with Uefa's rules including Financial Fair Play (FFP) 2013-14 to 2017-18. • 7x Breaching Premier League's PSR rules 2015-16 to 2017-18. • 35x Failure to co-operate with Premier League investigations December 2018 - Feb 2023. Haven't read anything about this,must have missed it. What's it all about and how can he be linked to it?
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Post by Bredburyhatter on May 24, 2024 18:24:05 GMT
Does anyone know a United fan looking forward to watching the FA Cup Final tomorrow?
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Post by scfc73 on May 24, 2024 18:46:13 GMT
Does anyone know a United fan looking forward to watching the FA Cup Final tomorrow? Nope. And even as a neutral I'm not looking forward as it will be so predictable.
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