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Post by geordiehatter on Feb 18, 2024 22:49:21 GMT
No no no. Why didn't this get any attention yesterday. Horrible stuff What I don't get here (apart from the entire concept, and indeed modern football/the 21st Century as a whole) is why would they need an App? Is it not just them all turning their phone torchlights on at the same time? In fact could they not even just leave their phones at home and bring actual torches instead?
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Post by fenedgeexile on Feb 19, 2024 0:20:49 GMT
Watching bits of the Luton v Utd game earlier reminded me that 11 years ago I was watching us play them at Kenilworth Road in the Blue Square Premier. Here's hoping we can emulate them over the next 10/11 years!
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Feb 19, 2024 8:41:18 GMT
No no no. Why didn't this get any attention yesterday. Horrible stuff What I don't get here (apart from the entire concept, and indeed modern football/the 21st Century as a whole) is why would they need an App? Is it not just them all turning their phone torchlights on at the same time? In fact could they not even just leave their phones at home and bring actual torches instead? I’m guessing the intention was for it to be a light show. So rather than just everyone’s phone torches on it would involve lights being switched on and off in sync which means giving the Spurs app control of your torch. If they wanted to do stuff like this they could have installed LED panels in seats, like was done at the Olympic stadium for the opening ceremony over a decade ago.
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Post by geordiehatter on Feb 19, 2024 22:06:28 GMT
What I don't get here (apart from the entire concept, and indeed modern football/the 21st Century as a whole) is why would they need an App? Is it not just them all turning their phone torchlights on at the same time? In fact could they not even just leave their phones at home and bring actual torches instead? I’m guessing the intention was for it to be a light show. So rather than just everyone’s phone torches on it would involve lights being switched on and off in sync which means giving the Spurs app control of your torch. If they wanted to do stuff like this they could have installed LED panels in seats, like was done at the Olympic stadium for the opening ceremony over a decade ago. Well thank you for the explanation, but if anything I'm even more convinced that the world has gone irredeemably mad and that if you want proof, then the fact that it is possible to write the words 'Giving the Spurs App control of your torch', and for them to mean an actual thing that could conceivably happen, is Exhibit A. I actually feel like I need a long lie-down in a darkened room to get over having read it.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Feb 19, 2024 22:15:29 GMT
I’m guessing the intention was for it to be a light show. So rather than just everyone’s phone torches on it would involve lights being switched on and off in sync which means giving the Spurs app control of your torch. If they wanted to do stuff like this they could have installed LED panels in seats, like was done at the Olympic stadium for the opening ceremony over a decade ago. Well thank you for the explanation, but if anything I'm even more convinced that the world has gone irredeemably mad and that if you want proof, then the fact that it is possible to write the words 'Giving the Spurs App control of your torch', and for them to mean an actual thing that could conceivably happen, is Exhibit A. I actually feel like I need a long lie-down in a darkened room to get over having read it. We are truly in the end times
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Post by nelly on Feb 20, 2024 0:52:42 GMT
Well thank you for the explanation, but if anything I'm even more convinced that the world has gone irredeemably mad and that if you want proof, then the fact that it is possible to write the words 'Giving the Spurs App control of your torch', and for them to mean an actual thing that could conceivably happen, is Exhibit A. I actually feel like I need a long lie-down in a darkened room to get over having read it. We are truly in the end times Letting anyone or anything control your phone is a big no no.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Feb 21, 2024 12:27:23 GMT
Don't see the problem myself. As long as the game itself isn't being pissed-around with (and that's another debate entirely, isn't it, VAR?), what's wrong with doing stuff like this? It makes the entire matchgoing experience more spectacular, especially for kids. And no one's forcing anyone to get involved. I mean it's not goal celebration music is it?
I dunno, I think we're in danger of falling into Facebook Memories "everything modern is shit and I'm scared" territory. I'm a child of the 70s in terms of watching live football, and I'm happy to go on record as saying, as objectively as I can, that the experience was a lot shitter then than now. Some things are arguably worse - I'd like (safe) terraces back as an option, and admission prices are ridiculous - but the vast majority of changes are for the better. Replay screens, catering, non-smoking, modern stands... and, yes, I'd include stuff like light shows in this. And all that's before you get to the game itself, which is infinitely better than it was in the 70s, thanks to stuff like pitch technology, modern coaching methods and player fitness. What's wrong with having a bit of fun in the stands before it kicks off?
Nostalgia's important, and I know a lot of the negativity towards this is "grumpy old man" posturing for the bantz, but equally important is recognising progress.
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Post by gibbo on Feb 21, 2024 12:41:48 GMT
I like to sometimes catch 'The Big Match Revisited' on a Saturday AM on ITV4. You're right about the pitches, shocking how bad they were really, silky players like Liam Brady trying to play a bit of Tiki Taka on a ploughed field.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Feb 21, 2024 13:20:50 GMT
I like to sometimes catch 'The Big Match Revisited' on a Saturday AM on ITV4. You're right about the pitches, shocking how bad they were really, silky players like Liam Brady trying to play a bit of Tiki Taka on a ploughed field. Love this account, but calling this a "proper pitch" is bollocks:
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Feb 21, 2024 13:47:44 GMT
Don't see the problem myself. As long as the game itself isn't being pissed-around with (and that's another debate entirely, isn't it, VAR?), what's wrong with doing stuff like this? It makes the entire matchgoing experience more spectacular, especially for kids. And no one's forcing anyone to get involved. I mean it's not goal celebration music is it? I dunno, I think we're in danger of falling into Facebook Memories "everything modern is shit and I'm scared" territory. I'm a child of the 70s in terms of watching live football, and I'm happy to go on record as saying, as objectively as I can, that the experience was a lot shitter then than now. Some things are arguably worse - I'd like (safe) terraces back as an option, and admission prices are ridiculous - but the vast majority of changes are for the better. Replay screens, catering, non-smoking, modern stands... and, yes, I'd include stuff like light shows in this. And all that's before you get to the game itself, which is infinitely better than it was in the 70s, thanks to stuff like pitch technology, modern coaching methods and player fitness. What's wrong with having a bit of fun in the stands before it kicks off? Nostalgia's important, and I know a lot of the negativity towards this is "grumpy old man" posturing for the bantz, but equally important is recognising progress. I agree that most stuff is better than it was decades ago, but light shows and the sort detract from it. All that guff at Wembley was dire. Players waiting for the DJ to finish to kick off the second half and a showy stadium announcer. I don’t think kids care about it either. It’s all very American, and while I’m not someone who automatically dismisses everything American I really don’t think it works in football. If I go to an Ice Hockey arena and there’s a big light show with loud music it’s part of what I’m there for. Football is a very different beast.
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Post by desmond on Feb 21, 2024 13:53:03 GMT
I like to sometimes catch 'The Big Match Revisited' on a Saturday AM on ITV4. You're right about the pitches, shocking how bad they were really, silky players like Liam Brady trying to play a bit of Tiki Taka on a ploughed field. Love this account, but calling this a "proper pitch" is bollocks: I see it was filmed on one of the better pitch days at Derby 😀
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Post by scfc73 on Feb 21, 2024 14:24:48 GMT
I like to sometimes catch 'The Big Match Revisited' on a Saturday AM on ITV4. You're right about the pitches, shocking how bad they were really, silky players like Liam Brady trying to play a bit of Tiki Taka on a ploughed field. Love this account, but calling this a "proper pitch" is bollocks: That's brilliant & I remember many a game played on pitches like that. Can you imagine some of today's pampered premier league players having to contend with a pitch like that
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Post by Henry Pratt on Feb 21, 2024 14:47:31 GMT
Don't see the problem myself. As long as the game itself isn't being pissed-around with (and that's another debate entirely, isn't it, VAR?), what's wrong with doing stuff like this? It makes the entire matchgoing experience more spectacular, especially for kids. And no one's forcing anyone to get involved. I mean it's not goal celebration music is it? I dunno, I think we're in danger of falling into Facebook Memories "everything modern is shit and I'm scared" territory. I'm a child of the 70s in terms of watching live football, and I'm happy to go on record as saying, as objectively as I can, that the experience was a lot shitter then than now. Some things are arguably worse - I'd like (safe) terraces back as an option, and admission prices are ridiculous - but the vast majority of changes are for the better. Replay screens, catering, non-smoking, modern stands... and, yes, I'd include stuff like light shows in this. And all that's before you get to the game itself, which is infinitely better than it was in the 70s, thanks to stuff like pitch technology, modern coaching methods and player fitness. What's wrong with having a bit of fun in the stands before it kicks off? Nostalgia's important, and I know a lot of the negativity towards this is "grumpy old man" posturing for the bantz, but equally important is recognising progress. I agree that most stuff is better than it was decades ago, but light shows and the sort detract from it. All that guff at Wembley was dire. Players waiting for the DJ to finish to kick off the second half and a showy stadium announcer. I don’t think kids care about it either. It’s all very American, and while I’m not someone who automatically dismisses everything American I really don’t think it works in football. If I go to an Ice Hockey arena and there’s a big light show with loud music it’s part of what I’m there for. Football is a very different beast. I get the American argument, and I agree that trying to force something culturally on us, who have our own football culture, is wrong, and arguably a worrying development. But to me, this is more a developmental advance on pre-match tannoy music, half time penalty competitions and the like, which we've had for ages, rather than, to take a particularly American example, all singing a communal song at a particular point in the game. Fair point about the stuff at Wembley. I do take issue with the kids bit, though. I've taken kids to the Etihad and they love the pre-match build up. Tbh, it's not so much the lightshow (which is amazing), but the whole 20 minutes or so which builds up to a frenzy as the teams emerge. It's not explicit in that they would particularly point to any one thing in the build-up that they like, but it's clearly part of the whole, and as I say, they love it.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Feb 21, 2024 14:51:16 GMT
Love this account, but calling this a "proper pitch" is bollocks: I see it was filmed on one of the better pitch days at Derby 😀 Ha! This does reinforce my point from earlier, though. People of my age look at this through rose-coloured specs, because it's the time they started loving football, so of course they're going to look back fondly. But I defy anyone to say objectively that a game of football played on that is in any way better than one played on virtually any current pro club's pitch. And whilst the Baseball Ground was an exception, most pitches in the 70s and 80s were rolled mud from about mid-October to April.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Feb 21, 2024 14:53:06 GMT
Love this account, but calling this a "proper pitch" is bollocks: That's brilliant & I remember many a game played on pitches like that. Can you imagine some of today's pampered premier league players having to contend with a pitch like that Oh man, that's not brilliant! Okay, maybe in the way that an episode of It's a Knockout was brilliant, but that's hilariously awful. You can't think that's better than today, surely? 😂
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