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Post by stockytwo on Aug 11, 2023 13:04:31 GMT
Meh I personally don't beleive in restricted spending. Think clubs should be able to spend as much as they want (providing the owners have the money and don't load the club with debt). Correct me if i'm wrong but spending limits never used to be a thing so why is the sporting integrity being questioned now when owners have many times before splurged money and 'bought' titles (see Blackburn in the 90's). Sorry but you've completely missed the point. This with city is not about whether anybody agrees with ffp or any other rules for that matter. It's about them not following the same rules as all the clubs sign upto and deliberately misleading the authorities with false financial information. You may well be right over ffp but what if some of the other clubs didn't like ffp but restricted their spending to comply. Is that fair,whilst city just carry on blatantly. You sign upto a competition and all have the same rules. That provides the integrity or fairness. I don't know the ins and outs of their over spending or their misleading of investigators and I don't really care to be honest. All I know is that expecting the premier league (or any other league) to be in any way to be a fair competion is a waste of time. Sport isn't fair, so when you ask the question "how can anyone take the premier league seriously?" there's my answer. All sport from the permier league to F1, boxing, cycling, rugby is people trying to get ahead of each other by whatever means neccesary.
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Post by Jimbo on Aug 11, 2023 13:07:30 GMT
Liverpool paying £111m for Moises Caicedo from Brighton. Worlds gone mad.
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Post by Nik on Aug 11, 2023 13:21:06 GMT
Liverpool paying £111m for Moises Caicedo from Brighton. Worlds gone mad. Might yet still end up at Chelsea.
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Post by edjelley on Aug 11, 2023 14:16:52 GMT
Sorry but you've completely missed the point. This with city is not about whether anybody agrees with ffp or any other rules for that matter. It's about them not following the same rules as all the clubs sign upto and allegedly deliberately misleading the authorities with false financial information. You may well be right over ffp but what if some of the other clubs didn't like ffp but restricted their spending to comply. Is that fair,whilst city just carry on blatantly. You sign upto a competition and all have the same rules. That provides the integrity or fairness. I don't know the ins and outs of their over spending or their misleading of investigators and I don't really care to be honest. All I know is that expecting the premier league (or any other league) to be in any way to be a fair competion is a waste of time. Sport isn't fair, so when you ask the question "how can anyone take the premier league seriously?" there's my answer. All sport from the permier league to F1, boxing, cycling, rugby is people trying to get ahead of each other by whatever means neccesary. So it isn't sport then is it? what's the whole point of it? Surely winning by merit in a fair competition is the main neccessity for it to be at all meaningful? Do we allow bribery of officials to make bad decisions or players to throw matches. Where do you actually draw the line...or isn't there one? But if you just accept it as it is,that's your choice.Can't agree with you but doesn't mean my opinion is worth more than yours.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Aug 11, 2023 19:23:41 GMT
I fancy Luton to stay up as well. I’d be worried if I was a Wolves fan though. Sheffield United going to go back down too. Though there’s an argument that one dire season in the Prem to clear their finances then use the parachute payments to get back up in a healthier position might not be the worst thing for them.
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Post by shootershillbilly on Aug 11, 2023 19:34:14 GMT
Sky sports really have no idea. Slick programme building up plucky little Burnley, blowing smoke up the manager and owners (what has he to do with it?) arses. What do the inbreds do? Boo the knee, (prehistoric), boo players obviously injured and chuck lighters at players. And the commentators chuckle... Glitter and turd spring to mind
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Post by geordiehatter on Aug 11, 2023 21:15:31 GMT
Sky sports really have no idea. Slick programme building up plucky little Burnley, blowing smoke up the manager and owners (what has he to do with it?) arses. What do the inbreds do? Boo the knee, (prehistoric), boo players obviously injured and chuck lighters at players. And the commentators chuckle... Glitter and turd spring to mind It certainly didn't seem that the Burnley crowd had read the script outlining their role as likeable underdogs. Can't say I was surprised there- but I did find their team strangely underwhelming. I know they were playing the champions, but for a team that's just run away with the division below and in front of a sellout opening night crowd, they lacked fire in their belly for me. And the three goals conceded owed as much to careless defending as they did to City's cutting edge. Could be a long season for them unless they shape up.
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Post by The Real Exile on Aug 12, 2023 11:55:20 GMT
Looks like Arsenal are using our ticketing company 🤣
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Post by topcat99 on Aug 14, 2023 21:29:03 GMT
And here we go.,,,,
First week of the season and the referees and VAR prove that they are incompetent or bent with that outrageous Non Penalty for Wolves at Old Trafford.
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Post by ldjh79 on Aug 14, 2023 22:08:37 GMT
Wolves were great tonight, reminded me of us and our bad luck.
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Post by The Real Exile on Aug 14, 2023 22:13:37 GMT
And here we go.,,,, First week of the season and the referees and VAR prove that they are incompetent or bent with that outrageous Non Penalty for Wolves at Old Trafford. Shock horror rip off at the dung heap, but now we have VAR it is even more obvious.
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 15, 2023 8:44:40 GMT
And here we go.,,,, First week of the season and the referees and VAR prove that they are incompetent or bent with that outrageous Non Penalty for Wolves at Old Trafford. Shock horror rip off at the dung heap, but now we have VAR it is even more obvious. Just cannot understand fans of clubs who have not a real chance of their club ever playing in it can have an interest in that league. Back in the old days of it being league division 1 most would love to have been part of it but everything about the premier league turns many off now. Even by some miracle we got there most know the old County match day experiance would quickly be a thing of the past.
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Post by The Real Exile on Aug 15, 2023 9:10:14 GMT
I caught the tail end of it whilst channel surfing no way I'd sit through a probable bore fest like that, only watched as Wolves looked to be dominant and was hoping they would score. Thing is if you have enough money you do have a chance, look at Bournemouth and Brighton.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Aug 15, 2023 9:48:47 GMT
I caught the tail end of it whilst channel surfing no way I'd sit through a probable bore fest like that, only watched as Wolves looked to be dominant and was hoping they would score. Thing is if you have enough money you do have a chance, look at Bournemouth and Brighton. Probably felt the same way beforehand, but it was a great game. Wolves absolutely bossed it, but couldn't convert. United were awful - couldn't believe how often they gave the ball away. Apparently the head of the PGMOL apologised to the Wolves manager straight after the game which, if true, is shocking. Can just about understand the ref not seeing it - can't have eyes everywhere and mistakes get made - but the VAR guys watching replays and then deciding it wasn't a pen - Jesus. They should get binned off.
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Post by neil on Aug 15, 2023 9:54:53 GMT
I caught the tail end of it whilst channel surfing no way I'd sit through a probable bore fest like that, only watched as Wolves looked to be dominant and was hoping they would score. Thing is if you have enough money you do have a chance, look at Bournemouth and Brighton. Probably felt the same way beforehand, but it was a great game. Wolves absolutely bossed it, but couldn't convert. United were awful - couldn't believe how often they gave the ball away. Apparently the head of the PGMOL apologised to the Wolves manager straight after the game which, if true, is shocking. Can just about understand the ref not seeing it - can't have eyes everywhere and mistakes get made - but the VAR guys watching replays and then deciding it wasn't a pen - Jesus. They should get binned off. Apparantly the ref and the VAR personnel involved last night have been "overlooked" for games this coming weekend.
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