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Post by sk8ballboy on Jun 5, 2024 16:24:19 GMT
And ultimately this could impact the money coming to the EFL. And they are playing the race card. Parasites trying to ruin our national game.
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Post by Duncan McOchin on Jun 5, 2024 16:53:28 GMT
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Post by desmond on Jun 5, 2024 19:54:02 GMT
They've got the most expensive lawyers in the land, I find it hard to believe this is the best they could come up with. Their argument is that they shouldn't have to abide by rules that are agreed by all member clubs, which is the most basic component of every sporting league there is. Mentioned this to one of my bowling teammates today when I picked him up ahead of our game. When I said I thought they weren’t doing themselves any favours he responded with “I don’t want to talk about it as it winds me up” The minute we arrived at our game he went straight for a couple of the other players who are City fans and said “what do you think about this legal thing then, it’s good isn’t it !” He certainly didn’t like being picked up on it but tbf a couple of his gravy mates did agree with me that it’s not going to endear them to anyone.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jun 5, 2024 20:49:32 GMT
Possibly their lawyers think it would be better for them to take the fight to them first. So they're suing the league over the collectively agreed rules of the competition they agreed to when they entered it? Obviously these restrictive rules have really impeded them as they've only won 6 of the last 7 titles. And where is this irrefutible evidence they have? Surely they should have been cleared by now by it? Their suit is based on the claim that they're discriminated against because of who their owners are, rather than to do with the rules. It's still nonsense but subtle difference. Or at least that's what I got from the article I saw yesterday.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jun 5, 2024 21:06:45 GMT
Decent, casual watch that also shows the limitations of xG. Some chances are given a ridiculously high xG because of where on the pitch the ball hits the player but it doesn't seem to factor things like the ball coming at a player late through a crowd - Diasi's chance - or being absolutely leathered at someone so it's more of a block than a shot - Palmer's chance and several others. Some absolute shockers in there too though! I generally thing xG can be a useful tool but should not be the be all end all. The Haaland chance being deemed lower (albeit only slightly) than the Diasi chance is a prime example of it not being flawless.
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Post by timberwolf on Jun 6, 2024 8:01:10 GMT
So they're suing the league over the collectively agreed rules of the competition they agreed to when they entered it? Obviously these restrictive rules have really impeded them as they've only won 6 of the last 7 titles. And where is this irrefutible evidence they have? Surely they should have been cleared by now by it? Their suit is based on the claim that they're discriminated against because of who their owners are, rather than to do with the rules. It's still nonsense but subtle difference. Or at least that's what I got from the article I saw yesterday. Unless the legal boys think they have no case they,ll rightly from their point of view have a good crack at it. In some ways i hope they,ll win to get another then another following them till the whole rotten league eats itself alive. Do not know what i,d miss th most, the premier league or bloody sprouts to leave on my plate at christmas. Both things stink.
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Post by Lee on Jun 6, 2024 12:52:51 GMT
19-1 vote in favour of keeping VAR. Not surprised with the outcome but surprised with the big majority.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jun 6, 2024 14:00:53 GMT
19-1 vote in favour of keeping VAR. Not surprised with the outcome but surprised with the big majority. In a competition as imbalanced as the Premier League, the chance to increase the number of opposition goals disallowed outweighs the risk of the odd goal of their own being ruled out for most teams.
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Post by edjelley on Jun 6, 2024 14:11:32 GMT
They've got the most expensive lawyers in the land, I find it hard to believe this is the best they could come up with. Their argument is that they shouldn't have to abide by rules that are agreed by all member clubs, which is the most basic component of every sporting league there is. Mentioned this to one of my bowling teammates today when I picked him up ahead of our game. When I said I thought they weren’t doing themselves any favours he responded with “I don’t want to talk about it as it winds me up” The minute we arrived at our game he went straight for a couple of the other players who are City fans and said “what do you think about this legal thing then, it’s good isn’t it !” He certainly didn’t like being picked up on it but tbf a couple of his gravy mates did agree with me that it’s not going to endear them to anyone. There is genuinely no point discussing anything with city fans,they are the most hypocritical fans l know. They used to bang on about how united were a big bad club just about money etc and how they were the real local club and downtoearth. They are hundred times worse than any others,including united,Liverpool etc. They now don't basically want proper competition and just want a guarantee virtually they can hoover up all the trophies. And their laughable claim that they want fairer competition and as though they are acting almost in the interest of general football is incredible! They've just won 6 out of 7 titles- they've obviously been severely restricted.
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Post by edjelley on Jun 6, 2024 14:13:27 GMT
Their suit is based on the claim that they're discriminated against because of who their owners are, rather than to do with the rules. It's still nonsense but subtle difference. Or at least that's what I got from the article I saw yesterday. Unless the legal boys think they have no case they,ll rightly from their point of view have a good crack at it. In some ways i hope they,ll win to get another then another following them till the whole rotten league eats itself alive. Do not know what i,d miss th most, the premier league or bloody sprouts to leave on my plate at christmas. Both things stink. I take your point about the Premier league imploding which would be great in a way but no way can anyone surely want city to succeed in all this and get off the charges?
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Post by sidcup on Jun 6, 2024 14:17:04 GMT
Unless the legal boys think they have no case they,ll rightly from their point of view have a good crack at it. In some ways i hope they,ll win to get another then another following them till the whole rotten league eats itself alive. Do not know what i,d miss th most, the premier league or bloody sprouts to leave on my plate at christmas. Both things stink. I take your point about the Premier league imploding which would be great in a way but no way can anyone surely want city to succeed in all this and get off the charges? I'm resigned to them getting off with a slap on the wrist at most, so I'll struggle to manage more than a meh when this comes to pass. Any more serious consequences for them will be a pleasant surprise.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Jun 6, 2024 19:31:12 GMT
Mentioned this to one of my bowling teammates today when I picked him up ahead of our game. When I said I thought they weren’t doing themselves any favours he responded with “I don’t want to talk about it as it winds me up” The minute we arrived at our game he went straight for a couple of the other players who are City fans and said “what do you think about this legal thing then, it’s good isn’t it !” He certainly didn’t like being picked up on it but tbf a couple of his gravy mates did agree with me that it’s not going to endear them to anyone. There is genuinely no point discussing anything with city fans,they are the most hypocritical fans l know. They used to bang on about how united were a big bad club just about money etc and how they were the real local club and downtoearth. They are hundred times worse than any others,including united,Liverpool etc. They now don't basically want proper competition and just want a guarantee virtually they can hoover up all the trophies. And their laughable claim that they want fairer competition and as though they are acting almost in the interest of general football is incredible! They've just won 6 out of 7 titles- they've obviously been severely restricted. I like to think it’s because they know their success won’t last beyond the sheikh’s interest in them. Get as much our of his tenure before their inevitable return to mediocrity when he gets bored
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Post by desmond on Jun 6, 2024 19:49:40 GMT
Mentioned this to one of my bowling teammates today when I picked him up ahead of our game. When I said I thought they weren’t doing themselves any favours he responded with “I don’t want to talk about it as it winds me up” The minute we arrived at our game he went straight for a couple of the other players who are City fans and said “what do you think about this legal thing then, it’s good isn’t it !” He certainly didn’t like being picked up on it but tbf a couple of his gravy mates did agree with me that it’s not going to endear them to anyone. There is genuinely no point discussing anything with city fans,they are the most hypocritical fans l know. They used to bang on about how united were a big bad club just about money etc and how they were the real local club and downtoearth. They are hundred times worse than any others,including united,Liverpool etc. They now don't basically want proper competition and just want a guarantee virtually they can hoover up all the trophies. And their laughable claim that they want fairer competition and as though they are acting almost in the interest of general football is incredible! They've just won 6 out of 7 titles- they've obviously been severely restricted. I told my bowling colleague that they had become everything they hated about United, not sure how much longer we’ll stay friends 😀
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Post by Bredburyhatter on Jun 6, 2024 19:56:53 GMT
There is genuinely no point discussing anything with city fans,they are the most hypocritical fans l know. They used to bang on about how united were a big bad club just about money etc and how they were the real local club and downtoearth. They are hundred times worse than any others,including united,Liverpool etc. They now don't basically want proper competition and just want a guarantee virtually they can hoover up all the trophies. And their laughable claim that they want fairer competition and as though they are acting almost in the interest of general football is incredible! They've just won 6 out of 7 titles- they've obviously been severely restricted. I told my bowling colleague that they had become everything they hated about United, not sure how much longer we’ll stay friends 😀 Many are even saying Liverpool are their biggest/bitter rivals... just like United fans also say. No doubt, they'll soon be saying they hate England too.
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Post by nelly on Jun 6, 2024 21:22:01 GMT
I told my bowling colleague that they had become everything they hated about United, not sure how much longer we’ll stay friends 😀 Many are even saying Liverpool are their biggest/bitter rivals... just like United fans also say. No doubt, they'll soon be saying they hate England too. My 23 year old Son is a Citeh fan (unfortunately) he's bored shitless and won't go to games anymore. I've told him there's a perfectly good club on his doorstep.
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