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Post by scfc29 on Aug 14, 2024 8:14:56 GMT
Have we? First season beat Harrogate and lost to Leicester on penalties. Last season we were seconds away from beating Sheffield Wednesday, then lost on penalties. Tonight is just one of those but is the only one that fits your narrative there. We made plenty of changes for those games too, despite the results. I remember being so disappointed we put out a team with loads of changes against Leicester, to a lesser extent v Wednesday too although think we only made 3/4 changes for that. And yet we took both this teams to penalties. The first round of the cup is a couple of days after the opening game of the season, managers want to have a look at players within their squad, no players are 100% ‘match fit’, so minutes need to be spread and there’s the point of keeping fringe players motivated who might struggle for opportunity in league games. There’s so many reasons to rotate, the only one not to is to appease fans who for some reason feel they’re entitled to see a full strength side for all 50-60 games a season. Unfortunately it’s not football manager where if your full strength side have 99% fitness they’re good to go, it’s just not realistic. Playing a stronger side last night would’ve been negligent by DC. Normally, a rotated side would’ve looked a lot different with more squad players available but he could only play the cards he was dealt.
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Post by stockytwo on Aug 14, 2024 8:24:57 GMT
Also, as an aside, just read that the lad that organised the fan marches (not Dave, the pyro ones) and had controversial views on Mo Farah has picked up a stadium ban for a few years. Anyone any idea what's gone on there? The hatters83 guy ? Harry is it ?
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 14, 2024 8:28:53 GMT
We made plenty of changes for those games too, despite the results. I remember being so disappointed we put out a team with loads of changes against Leicester, to a lesser extent v Wednesday too although think we only made 3/4 changes for that. And yet we took both this teams to penalties. The first round of the cup is a couple of days after the opening game of the season, managers want to have a look at players within their squad, no players are 100% ‘match fit’, so minutes need to be spread and there’s the point of keeping fringe players motivated who might struggle for opportunity in league games. There’s so many reasons to rotate, the only one not to is to appease fans who for some reason feel they’re entitled to see a full strength side for all 50-60 games a season. Unfortunately it’s not football manager where if your full strength side have 99% fitness they’re good to go, it’s just not realistic. Playing a stronger side last night would’ve been negligent by DC. Normally, a rotated side would’ve looked a lot different with more squad players available but he could only play the cards he was dealt. I'm in the rotation camp, at least for yesterday, but there's more than 1 reason not to. How about putting our best team out to maximise our chances of winning the game? Progressing to the next round of the cup? Testing ourselves against the level above and "big club"?
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Post by Cale Green Hatter on Aug 14, 2024 8:29:20 GMT
I think Challinor has got this one wrong I’m afraid. We’re light on numbers, I get that, but what’s the worst that can happen if we play a few of the better players we do have available? We might lose at Blackpool? So what? There’s a decent chance we’ll lose at Blackpool anyway. Likewise there’s a decent chance we’ll win at Blackpool anyway. I think we’ll give League One a really good crack this season. I actually think we’ll make the playoffs. But I don’t for a minute seriously think we are going to be promoted. Nor should we, these things take time. Should’ve taken this game more seriously for me. We've 12 matches before October and hardly any fit players 100% right decision tonight for a game that wins f*ck all prize money, got to get off good start in league ensure we aren't teetering at wrong end of table that's priority it's a stacked league we have to get early points on the board It's not all about Blackpool though is it. We might see a couple back for Blackpool, a couple more before the end of August and a couple before the end of September was how I interpreted DC's comments at the Forum just over a week ago. From the start of the season we were faced with 3 rounds of the League Cup, the game against Accrington in the LT plus 8 League games before the end of September. 12 games in 7 weeks (and a day) with a dozen men on the treatment table isn't ideal. As of today there will now be 7 League games and the Accy game before October. 8 games in 6 weeks with players hopefully returning in line with DC's comments. If we've still got 6 men out on 1st October I would be happy as that means we've not lost anyone else to injury. 7 knee injuries (with only 1 being a contact injury) would suggest that there is a common cause. If we could eradicate those we'd be in a far healthier position. If other Cubs got them what did they do? It doesn't change the issue though. Half of our outfield players are injured and we have to get through the problem the best way that we can.
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Post by Philcounty on Aug 14, 2024 8:31:28 GMT
Also, as an aside, just read that the lad that organised the fan marches (not Dave, the pyro ones) and had controversial views on Mo Farah has picked up a stadium ban for a few years. Anyone any idea what's gone on there? The hattersmatters guy ? Harry is it ? Yes. He's tweeted saying how he's glad he doesn't have to put up with them for a few years while he's banned.
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Post by scfc29 on Aug 14, 2024 8:36:40 GMT
And yet we took both this teams to penalties. The first round of the cup is a couple of days after the opening game of the season, managers want to have a look at players within their squad, no players are 100% ‘match fit’, so minutes need to be spread and there’s the point of keeping fringe players motivated who might struggle for opportunity in league games. There’s so many reasons to rotate, the only one not to is to appease fans who for some reason feel they’re entitled to see a full strength side for all 50-60 games a season. Unfortunately it’s not football manager where if your full strength side have 99% fitness they’re good to go, it’s just not realistic. Playing a stronger side last night would’ve been negligent by DC. Normally, a rotated side would’ve looked a lot different with more squad players available but he could only play the cards he was dealt. I'm in the rotation camp, at least for yesterday, but there's more than 1 reason not to. How about putting our best team out to maximise our chances of winning the game? Progressing to the next round of the cup? Testing ourselves against the level above and "big club"? I think we can do all of those things whilst multiple changes from the previous game, just like we did against Sheff Wednesday and Leicester.
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Post by stockytwo on Aug 14, 2024 8:45:30 GMT
The hattersmatters guy ? Harry is it ? Yes. He's tweeted saying how he's glad he doesn't have to put up with them for a few years while he's banned. Ah yeah. Just had a butchers at the bin fire that is his twitter. These half wits just never learn do they.
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Post by slomasscfc on Aug 14, 2024 8:58:03 GMT
And yet we took both this teams to penalties. The first round of the cup is a couple of days after the opening game of the season, managers want to have a look at players within their squad, no players are 100% ‘match fit’, so minutes need to be spread and there’s the point of keeping fringe players motivated who might struggle for opportunity in league games. There’s so many reasons to rotate, the only one not to is to appease fans who for some reason feel they’re entitled to see a full strength side for all 50-60 games a season. Unfortunately it’s not football manager where if your full strength side have 99% fitness they’re good to go, it’s just not realistic. Playing a stronger side last night would’ve been negligent by DC. Normally, a rotated side would’ve looked a lot different with more squad players available but he could only play the cards he was dealt. I'm in the rotation camp, at least for yesterday, but there's more than 1 reason not to. How about putting our best team out to maximise our chances of winning the game? Progressing to the next round of the cup? Testing ourselves against the level above and "big club"? Pretty sure our best XI available would got beat last night they're streets ahead of us, was very impressed by them
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Post by philtheglass on Aug 14, 2024 9:27:31 GMT
I'm in the rotation camp, at least for yesterday, but there's more than 1 reason not to. How about putting our best team out to maximise our chances of winning the game? Progressing to the next round of the cup? Testing ourselves against the level above and "big club"? Pretty sure our best XI available would got beat last night they're streets ahead of us, was very impressed by them Exactly, no guarantee that we wouldn't have come out on the end of a 4-0 defeat even with our best 11 out there. I'm sure if DC had had half of the injured players available, we'd have seen a more competitive game, but we'd still have lost. DC can't really win, if we'd put our best 11 out & someone like Collar/Wootton/Barry had picked up an injury, the moaners would be saying that he should have rested them
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Post by sidcup on Aug 14, 2024 9:51:56 GMT
He did alright against Vale on Boxing Day tbf Why does it always rain on him ? Is it because he clattered someone in a pre season friendly when he was 17?
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Post by hattersmatters on Aug 14, 2024 9:53:18 GMT
Also, as an aside, just read that the lad that organised the fan marches (not Dave, the pyro ones) and had controversial views on Mo Farah has picked up a stadium ban for a few years. Anyone any idea what's gone on there? The hattersmatters guy ? Harry is it ?
Erm, for the record it's definitely not me......
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Post by Imposter on Aug 14, 2024 9:59:00 GMT
Why does it always rain on him ? Is it because he clattered someone in a pre season friendly when he was 17? I get the strangest feeling you're not wrong.
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Post by sidcup on Aug 14, 2024 10:00:22 GMT
I can make a half decent profit now, just by cashing out the bets I placed 3 days ago. I won't though. If we are going to get thrashed tonight I'd like to be appropriately compensated. Put £425 on at 11/8 sunday me for £1009 return was offered £735 to cashout before ball was kicked, paid for some of China trip I'm not that much of a high roller these days, got 5 mouths to feed on one wage! Stakes of £49.34, payouts of £281.32. Mixture of result and goal markets. Will subsidise our weekend in Blackpool to some extent! Have a great time in China - I absolutely loved it when I went in 2011. Now where's that travel thread gone?
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Post by Philcounty on Aug 14, 2024 10:01:52 GMT
The hattersmatters guy ? Harry is it ?
Erm, for the record it's definitely not me......
Hatters 83
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on Aug 14, 2024 10:02:11 GMT
Also, as an aside, just read that the lad that organised the fan marches (not Dave, the pyro ones) and had controversial views on Mo Farah has picked up a stadium ban for a few years. Anyone any idea what's gone on there? The hattersmatters guy ? Harry is it ? You're thinking of Hatters83.
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