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Post by CB1883 on Jun 6, 2020 9:35:24 GMT
I can see where Timberwolf is coming from. Schools are a lot softer nowadays. Some will argue that’s a good thing, others will argue it isn’t.
Bearing in mind I was born in the 90’s so still class my school days as not many moons ago, the whole school culture now just feels different. The problems some kids face today were always there, they haven’t just appeared over the last 13 years since I left. Those children could get the help if required back then in the same way they can today.
Even with the help there, a lot of people wouldn’t/couldn’t seek help or open up about it. I don’t think that will ever change.
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Post by DaveLong79 on Jun 6, 2020 11:13:48 GMT
I can see where Timberwolf is coming from. Schools are a lot softer nowadays. Some will argue that’s a good thing, others will argue it isn’t. Bearing in mind I was born in the 90’s so still class my school days as not many moons ago, the whole school culture now just feels different. The problems some kids face today were always there, they haven’t just appeared over the last 13 years since I left. Those children could get the help if required back then in the same way they can today. Even with the help there, a lot of people wouldn’t/couldn’t seek help or open up about it. I don’t think that will ever change. I think you're right, the help has probably always been there, but now it is front and centre rather than being an afterthought, I mentioned the cases of Baby P and Victoria Climbie earlier, unfortunately it took those two cases to highlight just how vital schools are to help to foster a caring and safe environment, even if only from a safeguarding point of view. As a result schools are a more friendlier and welcoming place and the focus is much more on wellbeing, which isn't a bad thing. It helps overall educational attainment too; if a pupil is feeling good they're much more likely to concentrate, engage, learn and ultimately succeed at school. The problems kids face have always been there, yes, but with this greater focus on the children's wellbeing they're much more likely to be dealt with than pushed to the back of their mind and allowed to bottle up. I wholeheartedly disagree that kids can't/won't open up, some won't, but the majority will. Once you allow kids the opportunity to speak, give them an environment to feel confident about speaking up, they will do. 7.0.3
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2020 16:57:23 GMT
Just wanted to recommend an app called “Sanvello” for mental health. Best one I’ve found and entirely free although they do have a premium option (which they have waived for the rest of the year due to Covid). I’ve had a bit of a wobble recently and realized I need the app on a consistent basis, even when I’m feeling great. It would probably help prevent moments that lead to distress. Far too many fantastic features of the app to list but if anyone is struggling with anything, even slightly I would highly recommend.
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Post by vicar on Jul 21, 2020 21:20:27 GMT
Sorry to hear about your wobble Max, hope things are back on track.
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Post by Bredburyhatter on Jul 21, 2020 21:54:38 GMT
Just wanted to recommend an app called “Sanvello” for mental health. Best one I’ve found and entirely free although they do have a premium option (which they have waived for the rest of the year due to Covid). I’ve had a bit of a wobble recently and realized I need the app on a consistent basis, even when I’m feeling great. It would probably help prevent moments that lead to distress. Far too many fantastic features of the app to list but if anyone is struggling with anything, even slightly I would highly recommend. Cheers, I have passed that message onto someone close to me...hope you are well.
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Post by Mozzer on Jul 22, 2020 4:04:18 GMT
Best wishes, Maximus. And to others out there - I am absolutely certain there are Yellow Board readers and contributors who will have been suffering without necessarily saying anything publicly. Life can be tough enough as it is. At present, for many, it's likely to be tougher.
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Post by stevie57 on Jul 22, 2020 5:04:51 GMT
Just re-reading the contributions in this important discussion (including my own), I noticed that we had not mentioned what’s loosely described as ‘advocacy’. Many people suffering from a variety of mental health issues including depression and anxiety are often in no position to help themselves effectively, especially if the mental issues are accompanied by physical symptoms such as lethargy as well. One of the most effective things I found in helping students was to ensure that those in need of help were supported by an advocate who would help with expressing the student’s needs and dealing with the difficulties of accessing appropriate help and support; in the adult world, this also involves matters of knowing your rights and entitlements. Taking that first step of finding a supportive and trusted advocate is often a difficult thing to do, in a school situation it can be more easily managed; in the wider world where loneliness is often an associated issue, it just reminds us that we all need to keep an eye open for those around us. That does not mean we need to be an advocate on behalf of someone else, just to be aware that helping to find one (whether professional or just a supportive friend) may be an important step for someone who is struggling. The better level of awareness and openness surrounding a broad range of mental health issues is encouraging; discussions such as these increase people’s understanding of the issues and thereby empower them to be in a position to offer more effective help themselves, or to direct sufferers towards professionals more able to deal with more complex problems.
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Post by malc on Jul 22, 2020 11:10:11 GMT
Just wanted to recommend an app called “Sanvello” for mental health. Best one I’ve found and entirely free although they do have a premium option (which they have waived for the rest of the year due to Covid). I’ve had a bit of a wobble recently and realized I need the app on a consistent basis, even when I’m feeling great. It would probably help prevent moments that lead to distress. Far too many fantastic features of the app to list but if anyone is struggling with anything, even slightly I would highly recommend. Cheers for heads up re that app. Mrs Malc has been having anxiety issues recently. She's just downloaded the app. SANVELLO
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 9:03:14 GMT
I had a few sessions with a counsellor when I needed someone to unload to a few years ago. The place I went was Beacon next to the Sun + Castle on Hillgate. It was very very therapeutic as they sit and listen and don't judge.
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Post by Philcounty on Sept 24, 2021 16:15:00 GMT
Never heard about it before but it sounds like a big step in the right direction. Only gripe with it is the phrase increased resilience feels a bit in keeping with the old fashioned stiff upper lip, get on with it mentality. Might just be me, though. And it's a minor point. The fact there are preventive steps being taken shows maybe it's being taken as seriously as it should be. Self-care is a huge thing that people don't seem that conditioned to in a big way. Exercise, meditation, talking things out, challenging negative thoughts before they become a habit etc. It's all stuff most people only begin to learn about once the shit has hit the fan. People just need to start looking after themselves don't they? Bad that we have to remind our kids how to do that! I think it says a lot about how we were brought up and our own parents were brought up. This is probably the oldest thread bump I've ever done, but was just reading through and thought you might be interested to know that in education circles there does now tend to be a move away from the word resilience, because it implies that you just get on with it when there are of course times when it's wholly appropriate to not accept what is happening. The focus now is on teaching skills that are required for resilience such as self-confidence, flexibility, finding purpose and meaning, having realistic plans etc. As you say, it's sad that these things need to be taught. I don't fully understand why, but sometimes wonder if rather than it being a case of life being tougher it's the opposite. Life is too easy and convenient so we don't learn the skills of resilience through grafting to survive like our ancestors did. Anyway, I could well be talking absolute bollox, but it's a good thread to bump for anyone who might need it.
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Post by PSP on Sept 24, 2021 16:52:01 GMT
Just lost a workmate last week who sadly committed suicide. One of the most popular people around. Full of life, ambitions and friends and still saw no way out or anybody to confide in.
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on Sept 24, 2021 17:27:31 GMT
Just lost a workmate last week who sadly committed suicide. One of the most popular people around. Full of life, ambitions and friends and still saw no way out or anybody to confide in. ☹️ So sorry for your loss PSP.
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Post by PSP on Sept 24, 2021 17:36:21 GMT
Wasn’t overly close. There’s a lot of people closer she’s left behind. Husband etc.
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Post by SCFCvader on Sept 24, 2021 20:48:33 GMT
Just lost a workmate last week who sadly committed suicide. One of the most popular people around. Full of life, ambitions and friends and still saw no way out or anybody to confide in. ☹️ So sorry for your loss PSP. I echo this. I too lost a really good mate back in March and it still hurts me now. I’ve been through some shit the last 7 years in losing both my parents in the space of 18 months. Mum was a shock, Dad was expected but it still hurt…but in a weird way, you sort of prepare yourself for things like losing your parents, doesn’t make it any easier but you know it happens… Losing my mate though was a bolt out of the blue. She was doing amazing at work, had just bought her own house, new car and was the happiest I’d known her in years. I was even texting her the night it happened to sort out seeing one another as we hadn’t been able to due to Covid etc. Text her the next day and no reply and didn’t think anything of it as I knew she was the sort who wasn’t always stuck to her phone…then text her again on the Tuesday and it didn’t deliver but again, didn’t think anything of it. That night I was told she’d taken her own life on the Saturday and I beat myself up almost every day thinking why didn’t I see it, why didn’t I notice she wasn’t doing well when we spoke on the Saturday…could I have done anything etc. I don’t even know why I’m telling you all this…guess I just wanted to get it off my chest. Anyways, I just wanted to share the following link for a mental health group focussed towards men and run by a county fan. Mike does some amazing work and I’m proud to call him a mate. If he can help just one of us, he’s making the world a better place; linktr.ee/talkaboutitmate
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 25, 2021 8:03:49 GMT
This is probably the oldest thread bump I've ever done, but was just reading through and thought you might be interested to know that in education circles there does now tend to be a move away from the word resilience, because it implies that you just get on with it when there are of course times when it's wholly appropriate to not accept what is happening. The focus now is on teaching skills that are required for resilience such as self-confidence, flexibility, finding purpose and meaning, having realistic plans etc. As you say, it's sad that these things need to be taught. I don't fully understand why, but sometimes wonder if rather than it being a case of life being tougher it's the opposite. Life is too easy and convenient so we don't learn the skills of resilience through grafting to survive like our ancestors did. Anyway, I could well be talking absolute bollox, but it's a good thread to bump for anyone who might need it. Not sure that life is easier now especially for school age kids. Think there are far more pressure on them and not from their own making than those like me born in the early post war period. No internet, no pandemic, no climate change fears and on top of this being sold the idea of the world being your oyster. Bit more tough love for the majority is needed but again some help for those who are not coping. Think my generation knew what we were and where we were going to more or less end up in life. Those in the 6th form knew they had a chance of university or the better jobs. Those in the bottom section of a secondary modern knew they,d be employed and were happy to take the jobs some would not do today. Selling kids all this equality is only stoking the fires of resentment in the future.
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