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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 29, 2024 12:57:18 GMT
Horrific news from Southport. Multiple stabbings, some suggestions it could be at a nursery. Hopefully not. There is a childcare place on the road where it happened - hopefully the two things aren’t connected…
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Post by Mozzer on Jul 29, 2024 13:32:02 GMT
Alder Hey has declared a major incident. It's not confirmation but it suggests the rumours might be true.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Jul 29, 2024 13:35:31 GMT
Horrific news from Southport. Multiple stabbings, some suggestions it could be at a nursery. Hopefully not. There is a childcare place on the road where it happened - hopefully the two things aren’t connected… Alder Hey Children's Hospital have declared a major incident. Makes for grim reading
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Post by bristolhatter on Jul 29, 2024 13:42:07 GMT
Horrific news from Southport. Multiple stabbings, some suggestions it could be at a nursery. Hopefully not. Awful news, MSM is reporting at least some of the victims are children. Both of mine in childcare settings today and it doesn't bear thinking about what those parents are going through right now. Sometimes with crimes you can understand/comprehend the motives of the individual (desperate drug addict, jilted lover etc) if not empathise or condone their actions but something like this is beyond comprehension. No doubt we'll hear the mental health line again as we heard down in Chatham last week, which is either a fob off or a genuine indictment of mental health in this country and we need to have a proper debate about how to actually address this as it's becoming far too frequent.
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Post by suedehead on Jul 29, 2024 14:03:59 GMT
Horrific news from Southport. Multiple stabbings, some suggestions it could be at a nursery. Hopefully not. Awful news, MSM is reporting at least some of the victims are children. Both of mine in childcare settings today and it doesn't bear thinking about what those parents are going through right now. Sometimes with crimes you can understand/comprehend the motives of the individual (desperate drug addict, jilted lover etc) if not empathise or condone their actions but something like this is beyond comprehension. No doubt we'll hear the mental health line again as we heard down in Chatham last week, which is either a fob off or a genuine indictment of mental health in this country and we need to have a proper debate about how to actually address this as it's becoming far too frequent. I'm trying not to read too much about it. I'm on the way down to London now for a few days with work, I left mine with Mrs sue in the park. Running around, just had an ice cream, looking forward to going on the trampoline when they go back home. A big part of me wants to go home now. The poor kids and families caught up in this today will have been exactly the same. Just heartbreaking and too much to get my head around.
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Post by desmond on Jul 29, 2024 14:14:45 GMT
Awful news, MSM is reporting at least some of the victims are children. Both of mine in childcare settings today and it doesn't bear thinking about what those parents are going through right now. Sometimes with crimes you can understand/comprehend the motives of the individual (desperate drug addict, jilted lover etc) if not empathise or condone their actions but something like this is beyond comprehension. No doubt we'll hear the mental health line again as we heard down in Chatham last week, which is either a fob off or a genuine indictment of mental health in this country and we need to have a proper debate about how to actually address this as it's becoming far too frequent. I'm trying not to read too much about it. I'm on the way down to London now for a few days with work, I left mine with Mrs sue in the park. Running around, just had an ice cream, looking forward to going on the trampoline when they go back home. A big part of me wants to go home now. The poor kids and families caught up in this today will have been exactly the same. Just heartbreaking and too much to get my head around. These type of things are always tough when it’s so easily relatable to your own circumstances. Our youngest was on a school trip to London during the attacks there in 2005. They were in Westminster Cathedral at the time of the attacks and we’re immediately placed in lockdown, as a result of that we had no contact for several hours and just had to hope/assume that if anything had happened to them we’d have heard about it sooner. Most definitely one of our hardest times as parents.
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Post by Lee on Jul 29, 2024 14:16:42 GMT
Alder Hey has declared a major incident. It's not confirmation but it suggests the rumours might be true. Horrendous. Just read up on it now. Awful news.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 29, 2024 14:55:38 GMT
Away from what’s happened on Merseyside, have I got this right? Stephen Yaxley-Lennon was arrested trying to the leave the country, was bailed, and then just left anyway? WTF is that about?
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Post by scfc73 on Jul 29, 2024 15:14:14 GMT
Awful news, MSM is reporting at least some of the victims are children. Both of mine in childcare settings today and it doesn't bear thinking about what those parents are going through right now. Sometimes with crimes you can understand/comprehend the motives of the individual (desperate drug addict, jilted lover etc) if not empathise or condone their actions but something like this is beyond comprehension. No doubt we'll hear the mental health line again as we heard down in Chatham last week, which is either a fob off or a genuine indictment of mental health in this country and we need to have a proper debate about how to actually address this as it's becoming far too frequent. I'm trying not to read too much about it. I'm on the way down to London now for a few days with work, I left mine with Mrs sue in the park. Running around, just had an ice cream, looking forward to going on the trampoline when they go back home. A big part of me wants to go home now. The poor kids and families caught up in this today will have been exactly the same. Just heartbreaking and too much to get my head around. I've just heard about this. I don't blame you for wanting to go home to be with your family. I was a victim of an unprovoked knife attack 17 years ago. My daughter was 4 months old at the time, I thought my time was up that day & I'd never see my baby girl grow up. Thankfully that wasn't the case. But ever since that day every time I read or hear about a knife attack my blood runs cold, but this incident involving very young children is on a different level. I feel physically sick & close to tears at this point. I'm not religious but I'm praying to whoever that these poor kids pull through & that their parents are spared any further agony.
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Post by desmond on Jul 29, 2024 15:17:52 GMT
Not sure it’s best place to put this, however, Huw Edwards just been charged with making indecent images of children !
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Post by tvor on Jul 29, 2024 15:22:07 GMT
Not sure it’s best place to put this, however, Huw Edwards just been charged with making indecent images of children ! I thought he was history and sacked when his previous crimes came out? Clearly not. And they wonder why they've got no money www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ng8glnljyo
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Post by Nik on Jul 29, 2024 15:30:40 GMT
Not sure it’s best place to put this, however, Huw Edwards just been charged with making indecent images of children ! I thought he was history and sacked when his previous crimes came out? Clearly not. And they wonder why they have got no money www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ng8glnljyoThey never said he was sacked at the time, just suspended. He was also only suspended in September, so the news story you quote covers a period where he wasn't suspended between April 2023-September 2023.
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Post by tvor on Jul 29, 2024 15:32:40 GMT
They never said he was sacked at the time, just suspended. He was also only suspended in September, so the news story you quote covers a period where he wasn't suspended between April 2023-September 2023. Have you ever had your salary increased by £40,000 whilst you were suspended over some very serious allegations? Huw has.
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Post by Nik on Jul 29, 2024 15:34:13 GMT
They never said he was sacked at the time, just suspended. He was also only suspended in September, so the news story you quote covers a period where he wasn't suspended between April 2023-September 2023. Have you ever had your salary increased by £40,000 whilst you were suspended over some very serious allegations? Huw has. His salary increase could have been arranged and implemented in the 5 months prior to his suspension. EDIT: Sorry, 3 months. He was suspended in July 2023.
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Post by bristolhatter on Jul 29, 2024 15:40:51 GMT
Have you ever had your salary increased by £40,000 whilst you were suspended over some very serious allegations? Huw has. His salary increase could have been arranged and implemented in the 5 months prior to his suspension. EDIT: Sorry, 3 months. He was suspended in July 2023. Indeed, I think the furore is misplaced as his pay review would have been agreed before the suspension/allegation. The figures are only published after the fact (FY) so you'd only learn of the pay rise 14-15 months after it was effective. Furthermore, you should still receive a contractually agreed salary uplift whilst on suspension (in the event you are deemed innocent), clearly if you're dismissed on Gross Misconduct the salary would become null and void anyway.
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