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Post by redhatter on Jul 26, 2021 19:27:51 GMT
I think they will reach £50k, but it won’t be easy. Once over the half way mark, I hope the doubters such as your good self will put your shoulder to the wheel too. Based on the past week, it looks promising. This is all about momentum. Is there a crowdfunding approach that could be adopted? Donate £20, thank you on the Co-op website. Donate £50, as above plus a minor perk. Donate £100, as above plus a t-shirt or something. Right up to £1000 where you’d be given the option, which hopefully nobody would take, of your name as a ‘premier donor’ on a plaque near the statue, something like that?
I've seen that approach done on crowdfunder.co.uk and it looks like that could be a good method to enough people to donate / donate a higher amount.
We can certainly create a Hall of Honour on the Co-op website to thank everyone who has donated.
The Danny fund is set up on Just Giving though and I'm not sure whether it is possible to provide incentives on that platform? Just Giving doesn't give us any contact information about the person who has donated (which I understand for data protection reasons). The problem is that we have no real means of contacting people, other than to say thanks (and that's only on 1 occassion). Quite a few of the donations are anonymous or people don't leave their real name. Thoughts?
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Post by redhatter on Jul 26, 2021 19:45:41 GMT
Any info on this sculptor? The scupltor is someone with a very strong background with a portfoilio that includes major multinational companies, leading universities and colleges in the UK and abroad and some of the UK's largest charities. They have also done a significant project that is very relevant to our tribute to Danny.
We need to continue to liaise with the Bergara family to ensure they are happy and that the proposals meet with their approval. As the fund develops further and we are confident of achieving the budget, we can look to reveal the details of the sculptor, ask them to provide some sketches and maybe provide the opportunity to meet with the fans.
It's a difficult balance, it's critical that we do a statue of Danny justice and looks the part, but this work comes at price, which why we have set the budget where it is.
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Post by someoneelse on Jul 26, 2021 21:13:37 GMT
Any info on this sculptor? The scupltor is someone with a very strong background with a portfoilio that includes major multinational companies, leading universities and colleges in the UK and abroad and some of the UK's largest charities. They have also done a significant project that is very relevant to our tribute to Danny.
We need to continue to liaise with the Bergara family to ensure they are happy and that the proposals meet with their approval. As the fund develops further and we are confident of achieving the budget, we can look to reveal the details of the sculptor, ask them to provide some sketches and maybe provide the opportunity to meet with the fans.
It's a difficult balance, it's critical that we do a statue of Danny justice and looks the part, but this work comes at price, which why we have set the budget where it is. I only ask because I looked into this on behalf of the co-op/Trust ages ago, probably a decade since. It was a non-starter because it was seen as a luxury. Now is a good time to do it but like suedehead says, I'm concerned you'll struggle to raise the cash any time soon.
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Post by mattyovrio on Jul 26, 2021 21:33:53 GMT
Don’t be concerned - put your shoulder to the wheel 😉
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Post by suedehead on Jul 27, 2021 10:48:18 GMT
Based on the past week, it looks promising. This is all about momentum. Is there a crowdfunding approach that could be adopted? Donate £20, thank you on the Co-op website. Donate £50, as above plus a minor perk. Donate £100, as above plus a t-shirt or something. Right up to £1000 where you’d be given the option, which hopefully nobody would take, of your name as a ‘premier donor’ on a plaque near the statue, something like that? I've seen that approach done on crowdfunder.co.uk and it looks like that could be a good method to enough people to donate / donate a higher amount.
We can certainly create a Hall of Honour on the Co-op website to thank everyone who has donated.
The Danny fund is set up on Just Giving though and I'm not sure whether it is possible to provide incentives on that platform? Just Giving doesn't give us any contact information about the person who has donated (which I understand for data protection reasons). The problem is that we have no real means of contacting people, other than to say thanks (and that's only on 1 occassion). Quite a few of the donations are anonymous or people don't leave their real name. Thoughts?
Yeah, it's almost too late now, shame this wasn't considered pre-launch given the size of the target. Given that you're on Just Giving, you could be snookered. Asking people to get in touch with you to claim an incentive after they've donated feels a bit naff. Maybe offer a weekly/monthly prize draw for all those who donate? If they choose to be anonymous/use a pseudonym, then they're not entered into the draw. The prizes would have to be worth it though; player shirts, tickets, even vouchers for a restaurant etc. The calendars might be a decent money spinner but they're not going to capture people's imagination enough as an extra incentive to donate. Just touching on the Make us an Offer thing as well, I do think you should run a raffle on one of them. The shirts the Co-op sell obviously attract a 'goodwill premium' (there's no way on earth that Gleeson shirt would get anywhere near £250 on the open market), but it does only leave a select few able to really compete for them. When my mum died, I raffled off a pink/black 09/10 pre-season shirt for charity, I got about £600 for that. There's no way that would have sold for £600, even with the Co-op premium. Tickets were a fiver each (you don't want to be selling tickets for anything less than that) and paid either through PayPal or straight into my bank - it's all so easy to do that these days there's not really any excuse to not be accepting PayPal or bank transfer. If I can raise £600 for a shirt that is desirable but not a proper top table one just through being a gobshite on forums and my own personal Facebook, there's no reason why the Co-op shouldn't be easily able to get more in on a raffle.
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Post by Lincoln Hatter on Jul 27, 2021 10:58:05 GMT
Totally agree on that. I never pay much attention to the Co-op / HtH shirt sales because I know within a day or so it’s out of my price range. If there were regular raffles I know I’d pay £5 or £10 for the chance and if I didn’t win I can be quite happy to see it as a 5/10 quid donation. I think you’d get a much wider appeal with a raffle.
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Post by redhatter on Jul 27, 2021 11:40:28 GMT
Hedgegrower was looking at a raffle. I was a bit cautious for a few reasons; the Make Us An Offer raises fantastic amounts and suedehead is probably right that they sell way above market value. The Gleeson shirt sold for £350, the concern was would we raise as much via a raffle? There are also certain rules and regs we need to comply with for holding a raffle, so we need to ensure we are compliant. Also would people buying a raffle ticket for £5 detract from them donating via Just Giving or not? Worth bearing in mind the average donation is very generous (over £30), so we don't want to lose that.
I'm sure the Co-op and HTH will do a raffle soon, because we recognise that auctions can be outside the price range of a lot of people. £5 seems a good price for a raffle ticket.
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Post by suedehead on Jul 27, 2021 12:33:24 GMT
Hedgegrower was looking at a raffle. I was a bit cautious for a few reasons; the Make Us An Offer raises fantastic amounts and suedehead is probably right that they sell way above market value. The Gleeson shirt sold for £350, the concern was would we raise as much via a raffle? Given I got £600 for a pre-season shirt, I'd say yes. Maybe not every time, but for a decent shirt you would. Happy to advise on which shirts would be most suitable if you drop me a message with what you've got lined up. Agree, but you're not raffling off a £1m house. It's for a second hand non-league football shirt. I'd say as long as there's a evidence trail of somebody entering (a PayPal transaction/bank transfer) and you use a properly fair drawing system and not just picking odd bits of paper out of a bucket (there's a multitude of online tools that can do it) and ideally stream it/record it to show you haven't just picked your mates out the hat, you're laughing. I'm sure anybody who wants to donate more than a fiver will do. And it's not like everyone will just buy one raffle ticket. If you put up a shirt I really wanted I'd probably buy at least 20 tickets, I'm sure other people would too. Hopefully it happens. But, as I say, it has to be the right shirt. If it's for a John Miles shirt, don't expect big money for it on a raffle. If it's for a Kevin Francis Wembley shirt, I reckon you'd be getting £1000+ in, probably much more than an auction at that level because there's really only a handful of people who'd be bidding against each other. As I say, happy to advise on the best shirts if you like.
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Post by Lincoln Hatter on Jul 27, 2021 12:35:40 GMT
Hedgegrower was looking at a raffle. I was a bit cautious for a few reasons; the Make Us An Offer raises fantastic amounts and suedehead is probably right that they sell way above market value. The Gleeson shirt sold for £350, the concern was would we raise as much via a raffle? There are also certain rules and regs we need to comply with for holding a raffle, so we need to ensure we are compliant. Also would people buying a raffle ticket for £5 detract from them donating via Just Giving or not? Worth bearing in mind the average donation is very generous (over £30), so we don't want to lose that. I'm sure the Co-op and HTH will do a raffle soon, because we recognise that auctions can be outside the price range of a lot of people. £5 seems a good price for a raffle ticket. I think if you held a raffle every month or even every few weeks you would do well. You point out the average donation being £30, well I think if you did a number of raffles over the course of the season the sort of person who couldn’t justify a £30 one-off donation would probably buy more than 6 raffle tickets in a season. All IMHO of course but I’d think nothing of a £5 raffle ticket every few weeks but would need to think a bit harder about parting with £30. I guess the opportunity to “win” something inherently makes it more appealing than just a donation. Though perhaps that is a question of psychology more than anything!
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Post by redhatter on Jul 27, 2021 19:38:33 GMT
Hedgegrower was looking at a raffle. I was a bit cautious for a few reasons; the Make Us An Offer raises fantastic amounts and suedehead is probably right that they sell way above market value. The Gleeson shirt sold for £350, the concern was would we raise as much via a raffle? There are also certain rules and regs we need to comply with for holding a raffle, so we need to ensure we are compliant. Also would people buying a raffle ticket for £5 detract from them donating via Just Giving or not? Worth bearing in mind the average donation is very generous (over £30), so we don't want to lose that. I'm sure the Co-op and HTH will do a raffle soon, because we recognise that auctions can be outside the price range of a lot of people. £5 seems a good price for a raffle ticket. I think if you held a raffle every month or even every few weeks you would do well. You point out the average donation being £30, well I think if you did a number of raffles over the course of the season the sort of person who couldn’t justify a £30 one-off donation would probably buy more than 6 raffle tickets in a season. All IMHO of course but I’d think nothing of a £5 raffle ticket every few weeks but would need to think a bit harder about parting with £30. I guess the opportunity to “win” something inherently makes it more appealing than just a donation. Though perhaps that is a question of psychology more than anything! We will give a raffle a go and see how we fare.
With regard to Just Giving, fans can donate whatever amount they can afford. Doesn't need to be £30.
Raffles and auctions also depend on the amount of desirable items the Co-op / HTH has at the time. We don't have a limitless supply and there will also be items that won't be seen as that attractive, so that will restrict us to some extent.
We are grateful to everyone who donates items and if anyone can help it would be much appreciated. Please send us a message at info@countysupporterscoop.co.uk
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Post by someoneelse on Jul 28, 2021 10:37:05 GMT
Don’t be concerned - put your shoulder to the wheel 😉 If I had time I would.
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Post by coopboard on Jul 29, 2021 12:22:30 GMT
Can You Take the Danny Bergara Statue Appeal Beyond £8000 ? A small blizzard of donations from supporters on 21 July took the appeal total beyond £7000, and the landmarks are approaching with increasing regularity thanks to the generosity of County supporters who want to see a statue of Danny sited outside Edgeley Park! The total raised so far stands at £7965. Can you be the one to take us beyond £8000? Do this here:- www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/dannybergara?utm_term=bzbaGAmQNThank you! Stockport County Supporters Cooperative & Help the Hatters
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Post by mattyovrio on Jul 30, 2021 13:55:52 GMT
£8k busted!
Statue Appeal is on the March!!
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Post by The Real Exile on Jul 30, 2021 18:17:48 GMT
Right load of moaning on some boards about the statue and seemingly some think the co op should trawl all of social media to respond to questions 🤔
Danny certainly deserves his statue, a wonderful engaging fella who was taken too soon.
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Post by mattyovrio on Jul 31, 2021 7:42:34 GMT
Right load of moaning on some boards about the statue and seemingly some think the co op should trawl all of social media to respond to questions 🤔 Danny certainly deserves his statue, a wonderful engaging fella who was taken too soon. I haven’t seen that much moaning, but then I only come on here and the old place. Who would moan about a statue for Danny? Why? And quite right too about questions for the Co-op. If they have anything they want to raise, it is easy enough to contact them.
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