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Post by timberwolf on Jun 27, 2024 8:09:06 GMT
I broadly agree with what you're saying here, but the flip side is that you don't know how many don't make a stand because they know what grief comes from doing so. He seems to relish being a target, which is fine if you've got the personality to deal with it (personally found some of grief he was given at EP a bit embarrassing but each to their own), but I suspect on this and many other topics, some players understandably take the line of least resistance. Our poppy fetishism is proper weird. Not the sentiment behind the poppy in itself, but what it's become. I'm also reasonably convinced that some of the most vocal fetishists don't even understand what it is they get so worked up about. drive.google.com/file/d/1wy6McRZjJgVVULjrq6m1bI3af4IwfRdt/view?usp=drivesdkAvoiding being made a target is possibly the main reason why every player took the knee and we all stand for the national anthem. Many would have their own reasons not to do either but are just being diplomatic about it. Poppy wearing is no different. Funny how back in the day of charity flag sellers on a saturday people tried to avoid or make eye contact with many sellers but not the british legion.
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Post by mattyovrio on Jun 27, 2024 8:18:13 GMT
Your comment is the first I knew of it so hardly front page news. To claim the poppy is in any way a far right ideology is madness considering the number of people that it represents from all political, religious and ethnic backgrounds. Not much gets under my skin more than the laziness of the assumption that it is in any way far right. Which isn't what I said. I said there is a group on the right (whether they are far right or just right is irrelevant) who have hijacked and abused the poppy for their own gains. And from what I see and hear it's not a tiny minority, it's quite a large, and vocal, group. I agree a group have hijacked it but they are a tiny minority. They are just very vocal and insistent, which can give the impression they are more numerous than they they are in reality. That and the media’s penchant for giving Farridge and co a disproportionate amount of air time.
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Post by timberwolf on Jun 27, 2024 9:37:24 GMT
Which isn't what I said. I said there is a group on the right (whether they are far right or just right is irrelevant) who have hijacked and abused the poppy for their own gains. And from what I see and hear it's not a tiny minority, it's quite a large, and vocal, group. I agree a group have hijacked it but they are a tiny minority. They are just very vocal and insistent, which can give the impression they are more numerous than they they are in reality. That and the media’s penchant for giving Farridge and co a disproportionate amount of air time. So many things have been hijacked over the years to the detriment of its original meanings. Feel religeon will be the next come 2029 with politicians using that for their own ends.
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Post by Mozzer on Jun 27, 2024 13:11:08 GMT
I agree a group have hijacked it but they are a tiny minority. They are just very vocal and insistent, which can give the impression they are more numerous than they they are in reality. That and the media’s penchant for giving Farridge and co a disproportionate amount of air time. So many things have been hijacked over the years to the detriment of its original meanings. Feel religeon will be the next come 2029 with politicians using that for their own ends. In fairness, I think you may be a bit late to the 'Religion's been hijacked' bandwagon, TW 😉
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Post by Count de Stockport on Jun 27, 2024 14:55:52 GMT
There's extreme poppy competitiveness between towns and villages where I am, each one's got to have more, or bigger, or poppies with images of Tommies on their lampposts, we've now got metal silhouette Tommies on the roads in and out of the village because the next lot along got them. It's ridiculous, totally away from what Remembrance should be about and a total waste of money that could be used much better by relevant charities. Down here in Basingstoke, those metal silhouettes have become a year-round thing. Sometime after Brexit, funnily enough. It's like we've become so obsessed with the 'pro patria' in 'pro patria mori' that we've forgotten to think about how likely we'd be thinking about the Fatherland when getting blown up in a muddy ditch. I'm almost certain I'd be thinking about my family rather than a red white and blue tea towel flying over thatched cottages
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Post by Philcounty on Jun 27, 2024 22:28:18 GMT
There's extreme poppy competitiveness between towns and villages where I am, each one's got to have more, or bigger, or poppies with images of Tommies on their lampposts, we've now got metal silhouette Tommies on the roads in and out of the village because the next lot along got them. It's ridiculous, totally away from what Remembrance should be about and a total waste of money that could be used much better by relevant charities. Down here in Basingstoke, those metal silhouettes have become a year-round thing. Sometime after Brexit, funnily enough. It's like we've become so obsessed with the 'pro patria' in 'pro patria mori' that we've forgotten to think about how likely we'd be thinking about the Fatherland when getting blown up in a muddy ditch. I'm almost certain I'd be thinking about my family rather than a red white and blue tea towel flying over thatched cottages Wilfred Owen said it best.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Jul 8, 2024 12:08:34 GMT
Maidenhead bank £4m on the Kilman deal. Exactly what we should be looking to do in the future. Apparently Reading have sell-on triggered by the c.£50m Olise deal too. Apparently similar as 10% of the profit (sold to Palace for £8m) but not seen that verified by a major news outlet. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cm52yn8v7x2o
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Post by Duncan McOchin on Jul 8, 2024 12:53:28 GMT
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Post by Bredburyhatter on Jul 8, 2024 20:02:56 GMT
why do PL under 21's not have their own cup competiton, rather than get involved with competitions like this and the Autoglass/BDSM trophy?
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Jul 8, 2024 22:17:03 GMT
why do PL under 21's not have their own cup competiton, rather than get involved with competitions like this and the Autoglass/BDSM trophy? Because it's a "win, win" except for maybe the fans. Premier league clubs want competitive football in a non-academy environment. NL clubs (or the EFL Cup) want funding/ prize money which the PL will pay in return.
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 9, 2024 8:09:54 GMT
why do PL under 21's not have their own cup competiton, rather than get involved with competitions like this and the Autoglass/BDSM trophy? Because it's a "win, win" except for maybe the fans. Premier league clubs want competitive football in a non-academy environment. NL clubs (or the EFL Cup) want funding/ prize money which the PL will pay in return. Think many of us feel its just one step to allow B teams into a football league. Fans who show interest in these games are giving them an excuse to bring this in. If any fan is against this just stay away from all games these U 21,s are involved in even if it hurts missing a home game with low admission.
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Post by mat1scfc on Jul 18, 2024 8:01:13 GMT
Woking in the shit but if the owner only had 3.5 million, then imo he had no where near enough money to own a club
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 18, 2024 8:31:24 GMT
Woking in the shit but if the owner only had 3.5 million, then imo he had no where near enough money to own a club If only these traditional non league clubs and owners ran the club as a non league one and not expect to buy the dream of league football they would be fine with that amount of backing. They see rivals they have had for years on end doing it so they feel they have to follow as well.
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Post by hedleyverity on Jul 18, 2024 17:27:13 GMT
Shows how badly wrong the game has gone if having ‘only’ 3.5 million to spare isn’t enough for a non league club
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Post by palmersears on Jul 19, 2024 5:58:16 GMT
He's only owned the club for 3 seasons, so to lose that amount of cash is impressive.
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