Mozzer
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Post by Mozzer on Aug 28, 2024 15:18:45 GMT
I don't know if you have grandchildren Timbers but if you have I'll bet you wouldn't want them to watch the manager of their team coming out with that. Agree. It's all very Sunday league. I'd imagine a lot of managers aren't afraid of dropping a few F-bombs in the sanctuary of the dressing room even managers like Jimbo & DC who can speak intelligently about the game on camera but that's the difference in class. When you're in front of a camera or doing something for social media you're projecting the club to the fan's & a wider audience & most managers have a hierarchy above them who would pull them up if something was said that projected the club in a bad light or was deemed to be unprofessional. This guy at Dorking owns the club & is the manager as well but his sweary social media posts just come across as 'it's my club, I've no-one to answer to, I'll do & say what the hell I like'. Some will say it's passion but to me he just comes across as inarticulate & a bit of a plonker. Exactly. It's all about times and places. It's one thing if he's calling his centre half a useless effing c-word for losing the centre forward at a corner when they're having it out in the dressing room after the game. However, if you want the moral high ground when taking on fans for their behaviour (and it sounds like he has a point in that regard), you're struggling straight away talking like that. For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not offended by the language itself. We're all adults here, so we can be grown up about that aspect of it. But it comes back to knowing when's appropriate to use it and when to find a different way to make the same point. I'm not one of those who says people who swear aren't intelligent. Partly because I swear and I don't think I'm thick 😉 Also because swearing can be an effective way of making a point if used the right way. But that looks like he's not smart enough to know that it's the wrong way of going about it in that scenario.
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Post by scfc73 on Aug 28, 2024 16:30:00 GMT
Agree. It's all very Sunday league. I'd imagine a lot of managers aren't afraid of dropping a few F-bombs in the sanctuary of the dressing room even managers like Jimbo & DC who can speak intelligently about the game on camera but that's the difference in class. When you're in front of a camera or doing something for social media you're projecting the club to the fan's & a wider audience & most managers have a hierarchy above them who would pull them up if something was said that projected the club in a bad light or was deemed to be unprofessional. This guy at Dorking owns the club & is the manager as well but his sweary social media posts just come across as 'it's my club, I've no-one to answer to, I'll do & say what the hell I like'. Some will say it's passion but to me he just comes across as inarticulate & a bit of a plonker. Exactly. It's all about times and places. It's one thing if he's calling his centre half a useless effing c-word for losing the centre forward at a corner when they're having it out in the dressing room after the game. However, if you want the moral high ground when taking on fans for their behaviour (and it sounds like he has a point in that regard), you're struggling straight away talking like that. For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not offended by the language itself. We're all adults here, so we can be grown up about that aspect of it. But it comes back to knowing when's appropriate to use it and when to find a different way to make the same point. I'm not one of those who says people who swear aren't intelligent. Partly because I swear and I don't think I'm thick 😉 Also because swearing can be an effective way of making a point if used the right way. But that looks like he's not smart enough to know that it's the wrong way of going about it in that scenario. I too swear like a trooper but like yourself & most normal people only in the appropriate company & setting or to make a point as you state. He's done a couple of clips like this with no filter & the way I read it is he's brought attention to himself & made himself a target for a bit of goading by opposition fans but can't actually handle it. The silly thing is in doing what he does & responding to it in that manner it's only going exacerbate the situation! I'd imagine St. Albans fans will double their efforts to wind him up the next time they play!
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Post by vicar on Aug 28, 2024 18:04:25 GMT
Agree. It's all very Sunday league. I'd imagine a lot of managers aren't afraid of dropping a few F-bombs in the sanctuary of the dressing room even managers like Jimbo & DC who can speak intelligently about the game on camera but that's the difference in class. When you're in front of a camera or doing something for social media you're projecting the club to the fan's & a wider audience & most managers have a hierarchy above them who would pull them up if something was said that projected the club in a bad light or was deemed to be unprofessional. This guy at Dorking owns the club & is the manager as well but his sweary social media posts just come across as 'it's my club, I've no-one to answer to, I'll do & say what the hell I like'. Some will say it's passion but to me he just comes across as inarticulate & a bit of a plonker. That last 5 games film from last season showed Dave to have a right potty mouth in the dressing room Always very professional when interviewed though.
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Post by Bredburyhatter on Sept 1, 2024 7:49:14 GMT
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Post by vicar on Sept 1, 2024 9:55:50 GMT
Southend strike me as the world's unluckiest club.
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 1, 2024 10:37:17 GMT
Southend strike me as the world's unluckiest club. Could have helped themselves a bit by travelling overnight. Something we,d have done even back in the bad days. Possibly its a case why people say you make your own luck which on the whole i have never agreed with.
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Post by Nik on Sept 1, 2024 10:43:50 GMT
Southend strike me as the world's unluckiest club. Could have helped themselves a bit by travelling overnight. Something we,d have done even back in the bad days. Possibly its a case why people say you make your own luck which on the whole i have never agreed with. That'd cost a fair whack on hotels though; probably makes more financial sense to take a train the morning of the game.
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Post by mat1scfc on Sept 1, 2024 11:08:34 GMT
Could have helped themselves a bit by travelling overnight. Something we,d have done even back in the bad days. Possibly its a case why people say you make your own luck which on the whole i have never agreed with. That'd cost a fair whack on hotels though; probably makes more financial sense to take a train the morning of the game. and they will end up having to travel on a Tuesday and most likely book a hotel. Dagenham did it to us a few years ago didnt they. Game was still played though
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 1, 2024 11:47:12 GMT
Could have helped themselves a bit by travelling overnight. Something we,d have done even back in the bad days. Possibly its a case why people say you make your own luck which on the whole i have never agreed with. That'd cost a fair whack on hotels though; probably makes more financial sense to take a train the morning of the game. Did you say the same when we did it and still do. More likely that the club was being run in a proffesional manner.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 1, 2024 12:02:42 GMT
That'd cost a fair whack on hotels though; probably makes more financial sense to take a train the morning of the game. and they will end up having to travel on a Tuesday and most likely book a hotel. Dagenham did it to us a few years ago didnt they. Game was still played though They’ll get some level of compensation from the rail company They shouldn’t have to make their plans based on whether or not the trains will run. They should be able to rely on the service. That they can’t is just another example of how utterly f*cked the country is.
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Post by 1994hatter on Sept 1, 2024 12:03:47 GMT
That'd cost a fair whack on hotels though; probably makes more financial sense to take a train the morning of the game. and they will end up having to travel on a Tuesday and most likely book a hotel. Dagenham did it to us a few years ago didnt they. Game was still played though Dagenham was called off because I think someone had been hit on the tracks, so they couldn’t get their train up on the day. Definitely got postponed as I’d won hospitality tickets but was away in Porto, so managed to make the rearranged date!
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 1, 2024 12:04:31 GMT
and they will end up having to travel on a Tuesday and most likely book a hotel. Dagenham did it to us a few years ago didnt they. Game was still played though They’ll get some level of compensation from the rail company They shouldn’t have to make their plans based on whether or not the trains will run. They should be able to rely on the service. That they can’t is just another example of how utterly f*cked the country is. Also worth noting that Premier League clubs have also used trains for travelling to games. Remember plenty of times comments on here along the lines of seeing the City team at Stockport station ahead of a game in London.
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Post by Nik on Sept 1, 2024 12:35:05 GMT
That'd cost a fair whack on hotels though; probably makes more financial sense to take a train the morning of the game. Did you say the same when we did it and still do. More likely that the club was being run in a proffesional manner. We very rarely did it though, for exactly the reason of saving money where money could be saved. We've done it more frequently now because we've got the money to do so and are at a higher level.
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Post by Nik on Sept 1, 2024 12:35:50 GMT
That'd cost a fair whack on hotels though; probably makes more financial sense to take a train the morning of the game. and they will end up having to travel on a Tuesday and most likely book a hotel. Dagenham did it to us a few years ago didnt they. Game was still played though Right, but you can't account for trains breaking down. 99 times out of 100, they travel on the day and save money by doing so.
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Post by scfc73 on Sept 1, 2024 12:39:06 GMT
They’ll get some level of compensation from the rail company They shouldn’t have to make their plans based on whether or not the trains will run. They should be able to rely on the service. That they can’t is just another example of how utterly f*cked the country is. Also worth noting that Premier League clubs have also used trains for travelling to games. Remember plenty of times comments on here along the lines of seeing the City team at Stockport station ahead of a game in London. Everton travelled back from Spurs the other week on the train & copped a load of flak on the platform from disgruntled fans after losing 4-0.
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