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Post by houldsworthhatter on May 28, 2023 22:15:29 GMT
Initial, several commiseration-inspired pints in: Offer a new deal to Hinchliffe, without a doubt. Probably a new one-year deal for Hussey, but sign a younger and more dynamic starter. Not sure we keep both him and Byrne, but both have done a decent job. Release Johnson, Davenport, Bardsley, with special thanks to the former for his efforts. I suspect the club will wait until autumn and see how it’s going before offering Challinor a new deal. But unless things are going badly we absolutely should. Either give Barclay away for free or pay him off. As above for Quigley. There’s a conversation to be had about whether Ross is up to the job as number 2 or not. Unsure whether Crankshaw is up to it and think we probably need better. We are not a million miles away from a conversation about Madden’s future. One more season for sure. Not sure beyond that. Get Croasdale signed up to a longer deal immediately. The rest are on long enough deals not to worry about yet. Paddy's already said he wants to finish his career in Ireland, & i think Byrne has done enough to extend his stay, as for Ross, he's not figured for York since the end of February
Didn’t Ross suffer a very serious injury though?
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Post by wnm on May 28, 2023 22:19:10 GMT
Paddy's already said he wants to finish his career in Ireland, & i think Byrne has done enough to extend his stay, as for Ross, he's not figured for York since the end of February
Didn’t Ross suffer a very serious injury though? He did. But if we didn’t (quite rightly) trust him for this season or the back end of the one before that, we’re not going to next either.
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Post by slomasscfc on May 28, 2023 22:19:20 GMT
let all out of contract players except Ben go none of them are good enough for a promotion aspiring team
Nucleus of decent side already there with 7-8 capable of being in top end side though always scope to improve on a few of them, how I see it
Ben
Wright Horsfall New LCB
Knoyle Rydel
Croasdale Collar New midfield general, ball carrier and creator type
Wootton Proper number 9
We need 6-7 additions at least 3 key signings as above and realistically we need a challenger to Wootton, another quality midfielder, cover/challenger for Rydel, a right sided utility defender or potential better option than Wright
Couple wide forwards/wingers
Squad Matrix wise
GK Ben, Ross backup or new keeper
RWB Knoyle, MSH
LWB Rydel, Hippo, Pye as cover option
RCB Wright, New signing or could Barclay come back into fold?
CB Horsfall, could keep Byrne but I'd look for better with perhaps marquee player capable of playing middle of a 3 or RCB
LCB Marquee signing, Pye as backup
DM Croasdale, Wright backup, Sarce can do deep lying role if needed
CM Collar, Sarce, marquee signing, Hippo
ST Wootton, Olaofe, Madden, Stretton and need a hybrid marquee player I'd seriously consider Luke Armstrong can play as a target man or alongside Wootton but of everything 16 goals and 6 assists in crap Harrogate side and only 26 fits bill nicely for all missing
Then looking alternative change shape
no 10 Madden, Sarce, the marquee midfielder as above
Wide Forwards/Wingers allow 433 Olaofe, Crankshaw perhaps, Hippo, but room for an option or two to come in here maybe a couple young players on loan from higher up with some pace to burn and impact from bench
Add in likes of Cody Johnson and Keane Barugh who don't count to squad limits but could see some minutes
In terms of exits or maybes of contracted players
Hippo isn't good enough be regular starter but just about gets in on versatility for another year
Barclay could stay and show something he looks better than Lewis but would leave if Carlisle take him perm
Sarce showed enough in his game today that happy for him stick around but falls into if there is a taker we should let him go as makes business sense
Crankshaw still think could show something for us and missed that type of player on bench today Carlisle subs made them better ours made us worse today cos lacked impact player
The can leave category for contracted players
Evans Camps Lewis
Almost certain to leave or can leave players out of contract/loan players
Jaros Bobby Jones Hussey Byrne Bardsley R.Johnson Davenport Grayson A.Rowe
Need to get our recruitment spot on sadly already couple weeks behind others now though!
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Post by BWScarf on May 28, 2023 22:36:31 GMT
let all out of contract players except Ben go none of them are good enough for a promotion aspiring team Nucleus of decent side already there with 7-8 capable of being in top end side though always scope to improve on a few of them, how I see it Ben Wright Horsfall New LCB Knoyle Rydel Croasdale Collar New midfield general, ball carrier and creator type Wootton Proper number 9 We need 6-7 additions at least 3 key signings as above and realistically we need a challenger to Wootton, another quality midfielder, cover/challenger for Rydel, a right sided utility defender or potential better option than Wright Couple wide forwards/wingers Squad Matrix wise GK Ben, Ross backup or new keeper RWB Knoyle, MSH LWB Rydel, Hippo, Pye as cover option RCB Wright, New signing or could Barclay come back into fold? CB Horsfall, could keep Byrne but I'd look for better with perhaps marquee player capable of playing middle of a 3 or RCB LCB Marquee signing, Pye as backup DM Croasdale, Wright backup, Sarce can do deep lying role if needed CM Collar, Sarce, marquee signing, Hippo ST Wootton, Olaofe, Madden, Stretton and need a hybrid marquee player I'd seriously consider Luke Armstrong can play as a target man or alongside Wootton but of everything 16 goals and 6 assists in crap Harrogate side and only 26 fits bill nicely for all missing Then looking alternative change shape no 10 Madden, Sarce, the marquee midfielder as above Wide Forwards/Wingers allow 433 Olaofe, Crankshaw perhaps, Hippo, but room for an option or two to come in here maybe a couple young players on loan from higher up with some pace to burn and impact from bench Add in likes of Cody Johnson and Keane Barugh who don't count to squad limits but could see some minutes In terms of exits or maybes of contracted players Hippo isn't good enough be regular starter but just about gets in on versatility for another year Barclay could stay and show something he looks better than Lewis but would leave if Carlisle take him perm Sarce showed enough in his game today that happy for him stick around but falls into if there is a taker we should let him go as makes business sense Crankshaw still think could show something for us and missed that type of player on bench today Carlisle subs made them better ours made us worse today cos lacked impact player The can leave category for contracted players Evans Camps Lewis Almost certain to leave or can leave players out of contract/loan players Jaros Bobby Jones Hussey Byrne Bardsley R.Johnson Davenport Grayson A.Rowe Need to get our recruitment spot on sadly already couple weeks behind others now though! With the cast of thousands we’ve got in the club, I’d expect the recruitment team to be all over it already. If they’re not they’re not doing it right. We need to have a Plan B next season. Plan A hasn’t worked.
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Post by wnm on May 28, 2023 22:41:24 GMT
let all out of contract players except Ben go none of them are good enough for a promotion aspiring team Nucleus of decent side already there with 7-8 capable of being in top end side though always scope to improve on a few of them, how I see it Ben Wright Horsfall New LCB Knoyle Rydel Croasdale Collar New midfield general, ball carrier and creator type Wootton Proper number 9 We need 6-7 additions at least 3 key signings as above and realistically we need a challenger to Wootton, another quality midfielder, cover/challenger for Rydel, a right sided utility defender or potential better option than Wright Couple wide forwards/wingers Squad Matrix wise GK Ben, Ross backup or new keeper RWB Knoyle, MSH LWB Rydel, Hippo, Pye as cover option RCB Wright, New signing or could Barclay come back into fold? CB Horsfall, could keep Byrne but I'd look for better with perhaps marquee player capable of playing middle of a 3 or RCB LCB Marquee signing, Pye as backup DM Croasdale, Wright backup, Sarce can do deep lying role if needed CM Collar, Sarce, marquee signing, Hippo ST Wootton, Olaofe, Madden, Stretton and need a hybrid marquee player I'd seriously consider Luke Armstrong can play as a target man or alongside Wootton but of everything 16 goals and 6 assists in crap Harrogate side and only 26 fits bill nicely for all missing Then looking alternative change shape no 10 Madden, Sarce, the marquee midfielder as above Wide Forwards/Wingers allow 433 Olaofe, Crankshaw perhaps, Hippo, but room for an option or two to come in here maybe a couple young players on loan from higher up with some pace to burn and impact from bench Add in likes of Cody Johnson and Keane Barugh who don't count to squad limits but could see some minutes In terms of exits or maybes of contracted players Hippo isn't good enough be regular starter but just about gets in on versatility for another year Barclay could stay and show something he looks better than Lewis but would leave if Carlisle take him perm Sarce showed enough in his game today that happy for him stick around but falls into if there is a taker we should let him go as makes business sense Crankshaw still think could show something for us and missed that type of player on bench today Carlisle subs made them better ours made us worse today cos lacked impact player The can leave category for contracted players Evans Camps Lewis Almost certain to leave or can leave players out of contract/loan players Jaros Bobby Jones Hussey Byrne Bardsley R.Johnson Davenport Grayson A.Rowe Need to get our recruitment spot on sadly already couple weeks behind others now though! With the cast of thousands we’ve got in the club, I’d expect the recruitment team to be all over it already. If they’re not they’re not doing it right. We need to have a Plan B next season. Plan A hasn’t worked. Yeah hardly anybody in our league had added players and I’m sure with the wages we pay agents/players will have happily waited if we’ve made our interest known.
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Post by houldsworthhatter on May 29, 2023 5:06:27 GMT
Didn’t Ross suffer a very serious injury though? He did. But if we didn’t (quite rightly) trust him for this season or the back end of the one before that, we’re not going to next either. Oh I absolutely agree he’s not up to our required standard at all, was just pointing out that that’s likely why he didn’t play again for York.
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Post by Count de Stockport on May 29, 2023 6:10:42 GMT
We shouldn’t be weeks behind everyone else. Wilson and the army of scouts should have had enough time to have at least started conversations with key targets
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Post by chadders on May 29, 2023 7:23:58 GMT
Of course we’ll have started approaching agents.
You’ve got to question the wisdom of giving the likes of Crankshaw such long contracts when we a non league outfit. Ridiculous.
We’re going to be saddled with some deadwood for another season. That’s not a slight against Crankshaw because I think he could be a decent L2 player but not for us because we don’t play with wingers.
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Post by Count de Stockport on May 29, 2023 7:32:05 GMT
Of course we’ll have started approaching agents. You’ve got to question the wisdom of giving the likes of Crankshaw such long contracts when we a non league outfit. Ridiculous. We’re going to be saddled with some deadwood for another season. That’s not a slight against Crankshaw because I think he could be a decent L2 player but not for us because we don’t play with wingers. Given our obsession with crosses, maybe we should consider playing with wingers
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Post by timberwolf on May 29, 2023 7:38:03 GMT
Those out of contract this year i,d keep ben and possibly byrne. There is a few on the books for next season i,d like to either get rid of or loan out. One thing about staying where we are is that it could be a big season for Pye who i,m sure will get chances. The big questions is do we keep both paddy and sarc or allow both to leave. Part of me says yes and the other no. We definatly need someone who can put the ball away on a regular basis which has really shown up over the last couple of months of the season to put the games to bed.
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Post by philtheglass on May 29, 2023 7:42:57 GMT
Paddy's already said he wants to finish his career in Ireland, & i think Byrne has done enough to extend his stay, as for Ross, he's not figured for York since the end of February
Didn’t Ross suffer a very serious injury though? He did when he was on loan at Aldershot
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Post by philtheglass on May 29, 2023 7:54:47 GMT
Of course we’ll have started approaching agents. You’ve got to question the wisdom of giving the likes of Crankshaw such long contracts when we a non league outfit. Ridiculous. We’re going to be saddled with some deadwood for another season. That’s not a slight against Crankshaw because I think he could be a decent L2 player but not for us because we don’t play with wingers. Bit unfair on the club, everyone was happy to have Crankshaw signed up, because he was performing well in the NL at the time. Similar with Reid, he was scoring goals & there was a demand from the fans to extend his contract to fend off potential buyers. Its difficult to judge who will make the step up & the club are damned if they do, & damned if they don't.
Again with Quigley, he was leading goal scorer of the team that had won promotion from the NL, & had scored a dozen goals for Barrow in lg2...credentials thats you'd think would justify us going after him
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Post by timberwolf on May 29, 2023 8:05:47 GMT
Of course we’ll have started approaching agents. You’ve got to question the wisdom of giving the likes of Crankshaw such long contracts when we a non league outfit. Ridiculous. We’re going to be saddled with some deadwood for another season. That’s not a slight against Crankshaw because I think he could be a decent L2 player but not for us because we don’t play with wingers. Bit unfair on the club, everyone was happy to have Crankshaw signed up, because he was performing well in the NL at the time. Similar with Reid, he was scoring goals & there was a demand from the fans to extend his contract to fend off potential buyers. Its difficult to judge who will make the step up & the club are damned if they do, & damned if they don't.
Again with Quigley, he was leading goal scorer of the team that had won promotion from the NL, & had scored a dozen goals for Barrow in lg2...credentials thats you'd think would justify us going after him
At times its what players do at a new club rather than what they have done in the past as its no guarentee they,ll do it again. Collar and Wright for a start did not have illustrious careers before coming to EP but the vast majority of fans rate them. For everyone with a good history that comes off you,ll get another that does not. This will be the same ever since a ball was first kicked.
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Post by BWScarf on May 29, 2023 8:18:55 GMT
Of course we’ll have started approaching agents. You’ve got to question the wisdom of giving the likes of Crankshaw such long contracts when we a non league outfit. Ridiculous. We’re going to be saddled with some deadwood for another season. That’s not a slight against Crankshaw because I think he could be a decent L2 player but not for us because we don’t play with wingers. Suspect it might be to do with financial fair play. Amortisation.
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Post by timberwolf on May 29, 2023 8:32:38 GMT
Of course we’ll have started approaching agents. You’ve got to question the wisdom of giving the likes of Crankshaw such long contracts when we a non league outfit. Ridiculous. We’re going to be saddled with some deadwood for another season. That’s not a slight against Crankshaw because I think he could be a decent L2 player but not for us because we don’t play with wingers. Clubs cannot win with giving any contracts out. If they give out long ones they,ll be stuck with deadwood that do not fit or give out short ones who do shine only to be plucked from you too quickly when the contract runs out. Any club does not actually know 100 per cent if any signing will come off and contract lengths are equally a gamble no matter what agents want.
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