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Post by David Schofield on May 31, 2023 9:27:52 GMT
Thats easier said than done. You can have all the stats rquired on any player, watch em play numerous times with no real guarentee they,ll fit our system. Camps for me just floats in and out of games at the best and is he anyway one that has always promised more than he ever delivers. For sure. It just feels like it’s been happening an awful lot lately. But maybe it’s just me? Camps is nowhere near good enough for us; there isn’t a role in our setup that he suits and he isn’t of the calibre we should build a team around Plenty of Clubs will take him on loan and I am sure he can do very good job in this League in another system
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Post by timberwolf on May 31, 2023 10:43:23 GMT
For sure. It just feels like it’s been happening an awful lot lately. But maybe it’s just me? Camps is nowhere near good enough for us; there isn’t a role in our setup that he suits and he isn’t of the calibre we should build a team around Plenty of Clubs will take him on loan and I am sure he can do very good job in this League in another system Not too sure about him being able to do that good a job for another club in this league. Could be a type they are missing, but he hardly gets the game by the scruff of the neck to dictate it and his defensive capabilities aint great either. Just another bland midfielder for me and did we expect something in the first place that existed with him.
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Post by HTC on May 31, 2023 11:03:44 GMT
Camps is nowhere near good enough for us; there isn’t a role in our setup that he suits and he isn’t of the calibre we should build a team around Plenty of Clubs will take him on loan and I am sure he can do very good job in this League in another system Not too sure about him being able to do that good a job for another club in this league. Could be a type they are missing, but he hardly gets the game by the scruff of the neck to dictate it and his defensive capabilities aint great either. Just another bland midfielder for me and did we expect something in the first place that existed with him.
he's arguably the best player at the whole club in terms of technique, it's only really Madden and possibly Rydel that are anywhere close, so in a set up which needs a bit more of a playmaking type, with others doing the donkey work for him, he'd be a different player.
Problem is that sort of player just doesn't really fit with our style, which is a bit more meat & potatoes hard working / heavy pressing.
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Post by timberwolf on May 31, 2023 11:20:39 GMT
Not too sure about him being able to do that good a job for another club in this league. Could be a type they are missing, but he hardly gets the game by the scruff of the neck to dictate it and his defensive capabilities aint great either. Just another bland midfielder for me and did we expect something in the first place that existed with him.
he's arguably the best player at the whole club in terms of technique, it's only really Madden and possibly Rydel that are anywhere close, so in a set up which needs a bit more of a playmaking type, with others doing the donkey work for him, he'd be a different player.
Problem is that sort of player just doesn't really fit with our style, which is a bit more meat & potatoes hard working / heavy pressing.
This talk about being technically good has been mentioned about loads of players in the past though and is it an excuse for them not being all that good in actual games and have little input. Its about what any player does with his time on the pitch and not who is the most technically enriched.
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Post by wnm on May 31, 2023 14:04:12 GMT
Not too sure about him being able to do that good a job for another club in this league. Could be a type they are missing, but he hardly gets the game by the scruff of the neck to dictate it and his defensive capabilities aint great either. Just another bland midfielder for me and did we expect something in the first place that existed with him.
he's arguably the best player at the whole club in terms of technique, it's only really Madden and possibly Rydel that are anywhere close, so in a set up which needs a bit more of a playmaking type, with others doing the donkey work for him, he'd be a different player.
Problem is that sort of player just doesn't really fit with our style, which is a bit more meat & potatoes hard working / heavy pressing.
We have loads of players who do the donkey work around him. His weaknesses off the ball would be more than manageable if he regularly dictated games and provided for us when we have it.
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Post by Philcounty on Jun 1, 2023 9:39:15 GMT
Contract offered
Bobby Jones - Age 21
June 2024
Ben Hinchliffe - Age 35
Dave Challinor - Age 47
Ethan Ross - Age 26
Ben Barclay - Age 26
Macauley Southam-Hales - Age 27
Antoni Sarcevic - Age 31
Ryan Rydel - Age 22
Ollie Crankshaw - Age 24
Paddy Madden - Age 33
Scott Quigley - Age 30
Ryan Croasdale - Age 28
Myles Hippolyte - Age 28
Cody Johnson - Age 18
Connor Evans - Age 26
Akil Wright - Age 26
Joe Lewis - Age 23
Ethan Pye - Age 18
Daniel Okwute - Age 19
June 2025
Kyle Wootton - Age 26
Will Collar - Age 26
Fraser Horsfall - Age 26
Callum Camps - Age 27
Isaac Tanitoluwaloba Aduraoluwatimileyin 'Tanto' Olaofe - Age 23
Jack Stretton - Age 21
Kyle Knoyle - Age 26
Neill Byrne - Age 30
February 2272
Edgeley Park - Age 131 years
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Post by Philcounty on Jun 1, 2023 9:42:08 GMT
The next couple of transfer windows are huge. I expect, next season's retained/released list will be a lot more dramatic too.
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Post by atmosphere on Jun 1, 2023 9:48:10 GMT
Shout out to Ryan Johnson. Very important part of our NL winning team. All the best to him. I reckon a FL team may pick him up if not should be high end NL.
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Post by _creegs on Jun 1, 2023 9:53:21 GMT
Get in the GOAT - made my day that has, great news. I can't wait for Kenny to read his name out opening day of next season.
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Post by wnm on Jun 1, 2023 11:50:12 GMT
Shout out to Ryan Johnson. Very important part of our NL winning team. All the best to him. I reckon a FL team may pick him up if not should be high end NL. Not a chance that a FL team pick him up. He’s had two shots at it and not been good enough either time. Top half NL is his max level and hopefully he gets a club there.
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Post by atmosphere on Jun 1, 2023 11:52:12 GMT
Shout out to Ryan Johnson. Very important part of our NL winning team. All the best to him. I reckon a FL team may pick him up if not should be high end NL. Not a chance that a FL team pick him up. He’s had two shots at it and not been good enough either time. Top half NL is his max level and hopefully he gets a club there. He played for Port Vale who won the play-offs and ourselves who lost the play off final.
I think teams towards the lower half could do worse.
There's probably going be more options for him in the NL granted.
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Post by mat1scfc on Jun 1, 2023 11:58:49 GMT
Johnson to me is a very basic defender. He would've been better in a back 4 imo as he's definitely not a wide CB in a 3. I reckon he ends up at somewhere like Oldham
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Post by wnm on Jun 1, 2023 12:00:11 GMT
Not a chance that a FL team pick him up. He’s had two shots at it and not been good enough either time. Top half NL is his max level and hopefully he gets a club there. He played for Port Vale who won the play-offs and ourselves who lost the play off final.
I think teams towards the lower half could do worse.
There's probably going be more options for him in the NL granted.
He left Port Vale six months into a two year deal having only started a couple of league games and they decided at that point that he wasn’t good enough and quickly moved him on. They were also in the bottom half of the table when they did that. He ended this season for us behind Hussey and two right-footed CBs in Byrne and Lewis.
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Post by David Schofield on Jun 1, 2023 12:02:46 GMT
Not a chance that a FL team pick him up. He’s had two shots at it and not been good enough either time. Top half NL is his max level and hopefully he gets a club there. He played for Port Vale who won the play-offs and ourselves who lost the play off final.
I think teams towards the lower half could do worse.
There's probably going be more options for him in the NL granted.
Ryan Johnson is a solid defender and a big threat in the opposition box and can do a job for a League Two side; he just wasn’t capable of doing what we needed which was to bring/pass the ball forward and build attacks - as much as every club might want that most don’t need it and I expect he’ll get a Club without too much trouble
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Post by atmosphere on Jun 1, 2023 12:05:48 GMT
He played for Port Vale who won the play-offs and ourselves who lost the play off final.
I think teams towards the lower half could do worse.
There's probably going be more options for him in the NL granted.
He left Port Vale six months into a two year deal having only started a couple of league games and they decided at that point that he wasn’t good enough and quickly moved him on. They were also in the bottom half of the table when they did that. He ended this season for us behind Hussey and two right-footed CBs in Byrne and Lewis. Back to back National League promotion winner 20 21 and 21 22. Big part of both teams (Hartlepool and County). He'll get fixed up.
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