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Post by wnm on Feb 21, 2022 4:40:15 GMT
I’d give them both one year extensions even if we go up and the same with Hogan and Jennings. Think they’d be useful squad players. I’d want us to be bringing in better options for the starting XI. I think wnm suggested it but 1 year extensions with a club option for a second year seems like the perfect middleground. Both have more than earnt the right to be with us next season (whether you judge it by their track record, leadership or that they are one of the first names on the teamsheet right now), but their age would be my only hesitation from giving them 2 year deals. Arguing against myself, I suppose Ash is only 29 and we'll always need a dominating CB for some games and if Ben became a no.2 he'd be a bloody good one and would need a top L2 keeper ahead of him so 2 year deals for the champions, on what I imagine are relatively low wages would also make sense. I certainly wouldn't complain if CJ and Hogan got 1 year extensions but for me they've got more to prove. Hogan is a regular starter when on form but is 33 and does have regular bad games (though some outstanding runs too). If we were to go up to L2 next season (or perhaps regardless) I think we should be looking for a younger CB with both pace, height and ability on the ball that can the central role or wide RCB. A tough ask but Wrexham reckon they have found one in Hayden. Then it comes a question whether Hogan would be happy to be a squad player and good influence in the camp. What happens to Barclay would also play a role. CJ is good enough L2 imo and I've been really impressed by his recent performances - goals, movement and surprising ability to play the 9 role holding it up and flicking it on. Again, the question mark for me would be his age (would turn 31 early next season) and our other options. We have to bring in another no.9 to compete with Quigley, then you have them two, Madden, Crankshaw and Whitfield who are possibly all ahead of him. So for me it depends on our transfer plans and how they finish the season. I’d let Hogan and CJ both go. In Hogan’s case he’s getting on and the bit of pace he had isn’t there and that’s what our defence desperately lacks. So we need to bring that in and we already have Keane and Barclay contracted with young Holding coming through so don’t see a place for Liam. CJ has done well since his return but if we do go up and are looking to aim for the playoffs straight away I think we need an upgrade. Again I’d be looking to add some pace and power. I think CJ is a bit too similar to Madden in a lot of respects and some more variety up top. With potentially more space to work in and more opportunity to counter attack if we’re in the league above someone with pace would prove very useful.
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Post by countyblueforever on Feb 21, 2022 5:43:12 GMT
I agree about Hogan. I’d offer Hinchliffe and Palmer another two years, they have done enough and contributed immensely since they have both been at the club. They both deserve it.
The club stood by CJ during his illness last year and I feel he still has the talent to play at tier four, so would give him another year. The rest on contracts due to expire on July 1st, I would let go and replace with far better.
I find it strange that no contracts have been renewed yet, and as we are nearly into March with only 15 games remaining, so the players agents will be working hard to secure better deals and we could miss out on Hinchliffe and Palmer.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Feb 21, 2022 10:22:10 GMT
I find it strange that no contracts have been renewed yet, and as we are nearly into March with only 15 games remaining, so the players agents will be working hard to secure better deals and we could miss out on Hinchliffe and Palmer. I agree it's strange but I can't see either of them going anywhere unless County say no. They are County through and through and we're in the fortunate position of being one of the best options in terms of wages and setup. The club shouldn't abuse that loyalty and privilege though. Get them signed up.
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Post by gibbo on Feb 21, 2022 10:28:41 GMT
I find it strange that no contracts have been renewed yet, and as we are nearly into March with only 15 games remaining, so the players agents will be working hard to secure better deals and we could miss out on Hinchliffe and Palmer. I'd be curious to know the current wage structure, as assume there is quite a discrepancy between the likes of Palmer and Madden / Sarcevic in terms of what we're playing them?
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Post by samscfc on Feb 21, 2022 11:33:57 GMT
If we go up I'd like to see us have a younger squad and maybe bring players in who have resale value, with that being said I'd let players like Hogan go, but legends like Palmer and Hinchliffe obviously stay.
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Post by sydneyexile on Feb 21, 2022 22:08:04 GMT
June 2022 Hinchliffe Age 33 Hogan Age 32 Palmer Age 29 Earl Age 20 Walker Age 26 Jennings Age 30 Maynard Age 32 Stott Age 23 Alli Age 21
June 2023 Pye Age 18 Kitching Age 26 Collar Age 24 Croasdale Age 27 Newby Age 26 Whitfield Age 25 Rooney Age 31 Reid Age 26 Keane Age 28 Minihan Age 27
June 2024 Ross Age 24 Barclay Age 25 Southam Hales Age 25 Sarcevic Age 29 Rydel Age 20 Crankshaw Age 23 Madden Age 31 Quigley Age 29 Johnson Aged 25
February 2272 Park, Edgeley Age 131 years
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Post by Philcounty on Feb 21, 2022 22:13:28 GMT
June 2022 Hinchliffe Age 33 Hogan Age 32 Palmer Age 29 Earl Age 20 Walker Age 26 Jennings Age 30 Maynard Age 32 Stott Age 23 Alli Age 21 June 2023 Pye Age 18 Kitching Age 26 Collar Age 24 Croasdale Age 27 Newby Age 26 Whitfield Age 25 Rooney Age 31 Reid Age 26 Keane Age 28 Minihan Age 27 June 2024 Ross Age 24 Barclay Age 25 Southam Hales Age 25 Sarcevic Age 29 Rydel Age 20 Crankshaw Age 23 Madden Age 31 Quigley Age 29 Johnson Aged 25 February 2272 Park, Edgeley Age 131 years Post of the year.
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Post by HTC on May 13, 2022 11:40:45 GMT
Bit of an update
Out of contract end of season
Hinchliffe Age 33 Hippolyte Age 27 Hogan Age 32 Palmer Age 29 Walker Age 26 Jennings Age 30 Maynard Age 32 Stott Age 23 Alli Age 21
June 2023
Pye Age 18 Kitching Age 26 Collar Age 24 Croasdale Age 27 Newby Age 26 Whitfield Age 25 Reid Age 26 Keane Age 28 Minihan Age 27 Ryan Johnson Age 25
June 2024
Ross Age 24 Barclay Age 25 Southam Hales Age 25 Sarcevic Age 29 Rydel Age 20 Crankshaw Age 23 Madden Age 31 Quigley Age 29 Cody Johnson Aged 16
I’m not sure about Scott Holding. Listed as a ‘pro-deal’ but no contact length
the young keeper Schofield is also mentioned on the first team player page, but no mention of a pro deal.
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Post by m14hatter on May 13, 2022 11:51:26 GMT
I’d be giving Ben and Hippo new deals.
Palmer I’d maybe offer a one year deal. But if we get three good CBS in I’d be thanking him for service and letting him go.
The rest can all be released.
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Post by sherbertdab on May 13, 2022 11:58:23 GMT
Possibly the type of thread that can be left till Monday
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Post by mark1977 on May 13, 2022 20:23:43 GMT
Bit of an update Out of contract end of season Hinchliffe Age 33 Hippolyte Age 27 Hogan Age 32 Palmer Age 29 Earl Age 20 Walker Age 26 Jennings Age 30 Maynard Age 32 Stott Age 23 Alli Age 21 June 2023 Pye Age 18 Kitching Age 26 Collar Age 24 Croasdale Age 27 Newby Age 26 Whitfield Age 25 Reid Age 26 Keane Age 28 Minihan Age 27 Ryan Johnson Age 25 June 2024 Ross Age 24 Barclay Age 25 Southam Hales Age 25 Sarcevic Age 29 Rydel Age 20 Crankshaw Age 23 Madden Age 31 Quigley Age 29 Cody Johnson Aged 16 I’m not sure about Scott Holding. Listed as a ‘pro-deal’ but no contact length the young keeper Schofield is also mentioned on the first team player page, but no mention of a pro deal. I'm sure I read somewhere that Earl signed for Hyde on a free a couple of months ago
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on May 13, 2022 20:25:52 GMT
Bit of an update Out of contract end of season Hinchliffe Age 33 Hippolyte Age 27 Hogan Age 32 Palmer Age 29 Earl Age 20 Walker Age 26 Jennings Age 30 Maynard Age 32 Stott Age 23 Alli Age 21 June 2023 Pye Age 18 Kitching Age 26 Collar Age 24 Croasdale Age 27 Newby Age 26 Whitfield Age 25 Reid Age 26 Keane Age 28 Minihan Age 27 Ryan Johnson Age 25 June 2024 Ross Age 24 Barclay Age 25 Southam Hales Age 25 Sarcevic Age 29 Rydel Age 20 Crankshaw Age 23 Madden Age 31 Quigley Age 29 Cody Johnson Aged 16 I’m not sure about Scott Holding. Listed as a ‘pro-deal’ but no contact length the young keeper Schofield is also mentioned on the first team player page, but no mention of a pro deal. I'm sure I read somewhere that Earl signed for Hyde on a free a couple of months ago hydeunited.co.uk/news/lewis-earl-signs-for-the-tigers/
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Post by Stranded Hatter on May 13, 2022 22:09:18 GMT
Bit of an update Out of contract end of season Hinchliffe Age 33 Hippolyte Age 27 Hogan Age 32 Palmer Age 29 Walker Age 26 Jennings Age 30 Maynard Age 32 Stott Age 23 Alli Age 21 June 2023 Pye Age 18 Kitching Age 26 Collar Age 24 Croasdale Age 27 Newby Age 26 Whitfield Age 25 Reid Age 26 Keane Age 28 Minihan Age 27 Ryan Johnson Age 25 June 2024 Ross Age 24 Barclay Age 25 Southam Hales Age 25 Sarcevic Age 29 Rydel Age 20 Crankshaw Age 23 Madden Age 31 Quigley Age 29 Cody Johnson Aged 16 I’m not sure about Scott Holding. Listed as a ‘pro-deal’ but no contact length the young keeper Schofield is also mentioned on the first team player page, but no mention of a pro deal. Please Renew for at least a season Hinchliffe Age 33 Hippolyte Age 27 Palmer Age 29 Might be worth a punt Alli Age 21 Help to get set up with another club and let train with us if needed (like the club have done for others in the past like Sam Walker) Jennings Age 30 Can go with my blessings Hogan Age 32 Walker Age 26 Maynard Age 32 Stott Age 23 Edit - any of the last four I'd be happy to see us assist as well, I just feel like with everything Jennings has been through we have to do right by him
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Post by ValleyHatter on May 13, 2022 22:09:19 GMT
I’d be giving Ben and Hippo new deals. Palmer I’d maybe offer a one year deal. But if we get three good CBS in I’d be thanking him for service and letting him go. The rest can all be released. Interesting view on Palmer. My sons are both Charlton and have watched a lot of League one football. On watching County, they both said Palmer is the one name (after the obvious Madden and Sarc) who they feel on his day would cope in League 1.
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Post by m14hatter on May 13, 2022 22:15:49 GMT
I’d be giving Ben and Hippo new deals. Palmer I’d maybe offer a one year deal. But if we get three good CBS in I’d be thanking him for service and letting him go. The rest can all be released. Interesting view on Palmer. My sons are both Charlton and have watched a lot of League one football. On watching County, they both said Palmer is the one name (after the obvious Madden and Sarc) who they feel on his day would cope in League 1. I just don’t see it. He’s struggled at times this season as his weaknesses keep being exposed. I think he’d be alright for a lower league 2 team, I’m not convinced he’s what we need if we have ambitions to fly through the league though. However, as I said if we can’t find a better replacement then he’s worth a year until we can. I think barring Ben it’s the end of road for the NLN lot being starters if we go up.
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