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Post by Henry Pratt on Aug 6, 2024 12:27:22 GMT
I don’t think there are any asterisks on Olympic medals either. Fact is, Mu didn’t make it, that’s the US system… she (Keely) is the clear favourite as far as I can see. Go Keely !!! I actually predicted her to break the World Record tonight, thought she might have done a Rudisha / 2012 type performance and just absolutely went for it, but I think she was nervy and just settled for the win (and did it brilliantly). The 800m WR is I believe the longest standing in the books, but I'm not sure it's legit, but I think Keely can do it at some point. I'm convinced it isn't (see also Griffith-Joyner). Would be great to see it broken. I think the best indicator that it might be beaten by Hodgkinson is her age. She's still improving, hopefully.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Aug 6, 2024 13:52:19 GMT
I wonder if AI could eventually take over from humans? I mean, they will eventually, obviously, and I for one welcome our new digital overlords, but I'm specifically referring back to the point about events that are judged. Stuff like diving is absolutely ripe for it, I would have thought*. Factor in all the elements - body shape, angle of entry, etc - and it'd be fairly straightforward to decide accurately which was best.
*As someone who's now watched well *over* five minutes of diving, I feel well qualified to offer this as a suggestion. I'm up to almost half an hour now.
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Post by Fez on Aug 6, 2024 17:19:36 GMT
Go Keely !!! I actually predicted her to break the World Record tonight, thought she might have done a Rudisha / 2012 type performance and just absolutely went for it, but I think she was nervy and just settled for the win (and did it brilliantly). The 800m WR is I believe the longest standing in the books, but I'm not sure it's legit, but I think Keely can do it at some point. I'm convinced it isn't (see also Griffith-Joyner). Would be great to see it broken. I think the best indicator that it might be beaten by Hodgkinson is her age. She's still improving, hopefully. For interest, I came across this 2023 article about Kratochvílová and her world record: athleticsweekly.com/blog/the-world-800m-record-that-has-stood-the-test-of-time-1039969804/To remove doubt it would be good to see it broken; a tough prospect, though, and it would need a focused attempt outside of general competition.
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Post by Fez on Aug 6, 2024 17:29:47 GMT
Go Keely !!! I actually predicted her to break the World Record tonight, thought she might have done a Rudisha / 2012 type performance and just absolutely went for it, but I think she was nervy and just settled for the win (and did it brilliantly). The 800m WR is I believe the longest standing in the books, but I'm not sure it's legit, but I think Keely can do it at some point. To continue our Athletics datebe alkrington, do you still think though there won't be a "but" over Mu not being there?? Nah, I don’t think so. OK, so the winning time is not a time that Mu hasn’t achieved but championship races aren’t won on times. Keely and Mu have both run 1:54 this year, and it’s a real shame she wasn’t there, but if she had have been, we know they can both run quicker. If Keely had only ever run 1:56 and then won the gold with a 1:56, knowing Mu had run a 1:54 this year, then you’d maybe question it, but with how evenly matched they’ve been, if one of them doesn’t toe the line, then it’s a bit unfortunate for the fans, rather than any kind of asterisk. FWIW, I didn’t notice any mention of Mu in the USA commentary or punditry. Just a heap of praise for Hodgkinson. The US selection procedure is cutthroat, though. The defending champion ought to be given a chance to defend the title, imo, aside from obvious inability; maybe via a wildcard selection.
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Post by gibbo on Aug 6, 2024 20:30:34 GMT
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Post by gibbo on Aug 6, 2024 20:33:52 GMT
I'm convinced it isn't (see also Griffith-Joyner). Would be great to see it broken. I think the best indicator that it might be beaten by Hodgkinson is her age. She's still improving, hopefully. Add the 400 Record. So 100, 200, 400, 800 are all questionable.
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Post by Fez on Aug 6, 2024 22:15:50 GMT
Fantastic, wasn’t it? I was getting a bit tired of the trash-talking soap opera between the two favourites, and nobody else getting talked about, so I found that pretty satisfying, as well as being a remarkable race. The winner’s from my city as well, so even more pleasing.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 7, 2024 14:50:03 GMT
Andy McDonald - doing it for the older ones among us!
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Post by alkringtonhatter on Aug 7, 2024 15:06:47 GMT
Fantastic, wasn’t it? I was getting a bit tired of the trash-talking soap opera between the two favourites, and nobody else getting talked about, so I found that pretty satisfying, as well as being a remarkable race. The winner’s from my city as well, so even more pleasing. I was very heartened to hear that even a legend like Jakob has adopted my patented race strategy of going out too hard, dying at the end and regretting it.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 7, 2024 16:08:02 GMT
Fantastic, wasn’t it? I was getting a bit tired of the trash-talking soap opera between the two favourites, and nobody else getting talked about, so I found that pretty satisfying, as well as being a remarkable race. The winner’s from my city as well, so even more pleasing. I was very heartened to hear that even a legend like Jakob has adopted my patented race strategy of going out too hard, dying at the end and regretting it. To paraphrase my old PT Corporal: “At the start, run as fast as you can. On the straights, run as fast as you can. When you get to the bends, run as fast as you can. And on the final straight, run as fast as you can.” Wise words indeed.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Aug 7, 2024 19:22:48 GMT
There are trailers for Andrew Flintoff's new Sky series all over the place. F*cking hell, the facial and mouth scars he's got. It looks like his face must have been virtually hanging off after the accident. No wonder the Beeb apparently settled for £9 million.
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Post by desmond on Aug 7, 2024 19:34:30 GMT
There are trailers for Andrew Flintoff's new Sky series all over the place. f*cking hell, the facial and mouth scars he's got. It looks like his face must have been virtually hanging off after the accident. No wonder the Beeb apparently settled for £9 million. Saw him at the cinema in Alty about a year ago and he was still wearing a cover over his face and hoody pulled up over his head. Can’t blame him really, he’s had a very close call.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 7, 2024 19:35:16 GMT
If “questions need to be asked”, I’d be interested to know why all the sprints I’ve watched have been won by Americans who weren’t even in the medal places until the last 10 metres or so.
#MaxZorinHasQuestionsToAnswer
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Post by desmond on Aug 7, 2024 19:41:11 GMT
If “questions need to be asked”, I’d be interested to know why all the sprints I’ve watched have been won by Americans who weren’t even in the medal places until the last 10 metres or so. #MaxZorinHasQuestionsToAnswer We’re certainly very sporting runners up. I notice Laura Kenny claiming we’d get “8” Gold medals in the Velodrome, only 1 to date, some way to go to get another 7.
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 7, 2024 19:53:01 GMT
If “questions need to be asked”, I’d be interested to know why all the sprints I’ve watched have been won by Americans who weren’t even in the medal places until the last 10 metres or so. #MaxZorinHasQuestionsToAnswer We’re certainly very sporting runners up. I notice Laura Kenny claiming we’d get “8” Gold medals in the Velodrome, only 1 to date, some way to go to get another 7. Hubris is a terrible thing. We've been really poor in the velodrome. But I suppose we've also been a tad spoilt. Safe to say we've been caught up with though.
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