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Post by herbiedumplings on Nov 22, 2023 15:45:00 GMT
Maybe being one division lower gives a different perspective? With any luck, that’ll be different next season (not in the sense that you drop and we go up, mind! ) It’s frustrating as our last 5 games were winnable & should have been won. Yet 1 defeat 3 draws & losing a game we had already virtually won. The poor teams in league 1 have decent squads so picking up injuries really hurts us, where last season it didn't. Squad capability is higher by miles. Skill wise very little difference. Still its all about adjusting & adapting. Advice to your recruitment. Upgrade the passengers wage collector types & fill up on league1 or championship quality squad players. Any advice if your biggest passenger/wage collector type is League 1/Championship quality himself?
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Post by mattyovrio on Nov 22, 2023 16:05:50 GMT
Maybe being one division lower gives a different perspective? With any luck, that’ll be different next season (not in the sense that you drop and we go up, mind! ) Its frustrating as our last 5 games were winnable & should have been won. Yet 1 defeat 3 draws & losing a game we had already virtually won. The poor teams in league 1 have decent squads so picking up injuries really hurts us, where last season it didn't. Squad capability is higher by miles. Skill wise very little difference. Still its all about adjusting & adapting. Advice to your recruitment. Upgrade the passengers wage collector types & fill up on league1 or championship quality squad players. Cheers Puggers - always tough to not be getting the results you should, especially after such a good season. Think we will see a half a dozen leave if we go up - possibly a few more. Usually one of the main differences as you go up through the levels is the speed of the game - both speed of thought, the speed that the ball is moved around and pace of the players.have you noticed the difference there?
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Post by pugwash on Nov 22, 2023 16:22:00 GMT
It’s frustrating as our last 5 games were winnable & should have been won. Yet 1 defeat 3 draws & losing a game we had already virtually won. The poor teams in league 1 have decent squads so picking up injuries really hurts us, where last season it didn't. Squad capability is higher by miles. Skill wise very little difference. Still its all about adjusting & adapting. Advice to your recruitment. Upgrade the passengers wage collector types & fill up on league1 or championship quality squad players. Any advice if your biggest passenger/wage collector type is League 1/Championship quality himself? George Moncur, Brilliant last year, absolute garbage this. Sell them to Gillingham Wrexham Bradford Col U etc. Be someone elses problem then.
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Post by pugwash on Nov 22, 2023 16:35:56 GMT
Its frustrating as our last 5 games were winnable & should have been won. Yet 1 defeat 3 draws & losing a game we had already virtually won. The poor teams in league 1 have decent squads so picking up injuries really hurts us, where last season it didn't. Squad capability is higher by miles. Skill wise very little difference. Still its all about adjusting & adapting. Advice to your recruitment. Upgrade the passengers wage collector types & fill up on league1 or championship quality squad players. Cheers Puggers - always tough to not be getting the results you should, especially after such a good season. Think we will see a half a dozen leave if we go up - possibly a few more. Usually one of the main differences as you go up through the levels is the speed of the game - both speed of thought, the speed that the ball is moved around and pace of the players.have you noticed the difference there? Yes & No mate . The top 5 or 6 it's a massive difference. The rest is strange We could play 1 team 7 times & have 1 tight win 1 annihilation win 1 of the reverse in defeat & 3 massively exciting entertaining draws or 3 massive bore draws or a mixture of draws, It's very weird. Even the teams at the bottom on any given day could trounce the top 5 or 6 with no real surprise. Like in a cup match of higher lower leagues. But the real difference is the consistency. Way tougher. Stevenage cleared out over 80 % last season & upgraded ( down to Evans as much as money) same style,hence why they are flying. Cobblers & Carlisle less than us but not by much. All in all its a really middle ground Leveller between Championship & League 2. Still confident we will be playing you in it next year but it's a real headf#ck of a division.
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Post by scfc73 on Nov 22, 2023 17:31:28 GMT
Cheers Puggers - always tough to not be getting the results you should, especially after such a good season. Think we will see a half a dozen leave if we go up - possibly a few more. Usually one of the main differences as you go up through the levels is the speed of the game - both speed of thought, the speed that the ball is moved around and pace of the players.have you noticed the difference there? Yes & No mate . The top 5 or 6 it's a massive difference. The rest is strange We could play 1 team 7 times & have 1 tight win 1 annihilation win 1 of the reverse in defeat & 3 massively exciting entertaining draws or 3 massive bore draws or a mixture of draws, It's very weird. Even the teams at the bottom on any given day could trounce the top 5 or 6 with no real surprise. Like in a cup match of higher lower leagues. But the real difference is the consistency. Way tougher. Stevenage cleared out over 80 % last season & upgraded ( down to Evans as much as money) same style,hence why they are flying. Cobblers & Carlisle less than us but not by much. All in all its a really middle ground Leveller between Championship & League 2. Still confident we will be playing you in it next year but it's a real headf#ck of a division. Interesting point you make about Stevenage there pugwash, I wasn't aware of that & was scratching my head at how they were doing so well in league 1. I thought they were distinctly average when they visited E.P. last season unlike your team who seemed to carry much more threat. I know Steve Evans isn't everyone's cup of tea but you have to give him some credit for knowing how to put a side together to get out of league 2 then do it again straight away to be competitive in league 1.
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Post by Philcounty on Nov 22, 2023 17:40:47 GMT
Some interesting insight from Luke Williams at Notts' fan forum last night.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Nov 22, 2023 17:45:41 GMT
Carlisles new American owners I'd be worried if I was a Carlisle fan, their new owners can't even afford pixels
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Post by AmericanHatter on Nov 22, 2023 18:02:38 GMT
Carlisles new American owners That dude with the beard looks exactly like the guy I beat up in college because he hit my car and tried to take off. Nothing at all to do with anything, just thought I'd mention it.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Nov 22, 2023 18:09:26 GMT
Carlisles new American owners That dude with the beard looks exactly like the guy I beat up in college because he hit my car and tried to take off. Nothing at all to do with anything, just thought I'd mention it. bit weird
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Post by pugwash on Nov 22, 2023 19:03:15 GMT
Yes & No mate . The top 5 or 6 it's a massive difference. The rest is strange We could play 1 team 7 times & have 1 tight win 1 annihilation win 1 of the reverse in defeat & 3 massively exciting entertaining draws or 3 massive bore draws or a mixture of draws, It's very weird. Even the teams at the bottom on any given day could trounce the top 5 or 6 with no real surprise. Like in a cup match of higher lower leagues. But the real difference is the consistency. Way tougher. Stevenage cleared out over 80 % last season & upgraded ( down to Evans as much as money) same style,hence why they are flying. Cobblers & Carlisle less than us but not by much. All in all its a really middle ground Leveller between Championship & League 2. Still confident we will be playing you in it next year but it's a real headf#ck of a division. Interesting point you make about Stevenage there pugwash, I wasn't aware of that & was scratching my head at how they were doing so well in league 1. I thought they were distinctly average when they visited E.P. last season unlike your team who seemed to carry much more threat. I know Steve Evans isn't everyone's cup of tea but you have to give him some credit for knowing how to put a side together to get out of league 2 then do it again straight away to be competitive in league 1. Although I'm not a fan, he knows how to get 3 points his way. Big strong physical Up in the air & Lots of pace. His knowledge of players who he manages to contact regularly at other clubs & Then takes them when he needs them is amazing. Credit to him but there's just that something about him to dislike. If your owners want promotion this & next season, then you need a huge clear out & plenty of investment ( or Steve evans) for upgrades. Ruthlessness isn't affordable at Orient This season so it might take a few to be around the play offs for us. Are you're owners ready to be that brutal to bring in championship players & 3 or 4 PL loanees ?
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Post by herbiedumplings on Nov 22, 2023 19:15:05 GMT
Carlisles new American owners I'd be worried if I was a Carlisle fan, their new owners can't even afford pixels To be fair, every American TV show I watch, they all seem to use Noughties style Motorola Razrs as phones. Maybe it was shot on one of them?
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Nov 22, 2023 19:32:54 GMT
Interesting point you make about Stevenage there pugwash, I wasn't aware of that & was scratching my head at how they were doing so well in league 1. I thought they were distinctly average when they visited E.P. last season unlike your team who seemed to carry much more threat. I know Steve Evans isn't everyone's cup of tea but you have to give him some credit for knowing how to put a side together to get out of league 2 then do it again straight away to be competitive in league 1. Although I'm not a fan, he knows how to get 3 points his way. Big strong physical Up in the air & Lots of pace. His knowledge of players who he manages to contact regularly at other clubs & Then takes them when he needs them is amazing. Credit to him but there's just that something about him to dislike. If your owners want promotion this & next season, then you need a huge clear out & plenty of investment ( or Steve evans) for upgrades. Ruthlessness isn't affordable at Orient This season so it might take a few to be around the play offs for us. Are you're owners ready to be that brutal to bring in championship players & 3 or 4 PL loanees ? Vast majority of our squad's contracts run out at the end of this season, so I'm expecting a churn of players. Which is sad in a lot of ways
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Post by herbiedumplings on Nov 22, 2023 19:39:42 GMT
Although I'm not a fan, he knows how to get 3 points his way. Big strong physical Up in the air & Lots of pace. His knowledge of players who he manages to contact regularly at other clubs & Then takes them when he needs them is amazing. Credit to him but there's just that something about him to dislike. If your owners want promotion this & next season, then you need a huge clear out & plenty of investment ( or Steve evans) for upgrades. Ruthlessness isn't affordable at Orient This season so it might take a few to be around the play offs for us. Are you're owners ready to be that brutal to bring in championship players & 3 or 4 PL loanees ? Vast majority of our squad's contracts run out at the end of this season, so I'm expecting a churn of players. Which is sad in a lot of ways It’ll be interesting to see whether the legendary status of new signings really does turn out to be inversely proportional to the length of the contracts they’re given, though!
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Post by pugwash on Nov 22, 2023 21:32:50 GMT
Although I'm not a fan, he knows how to get 3 points his way. Big strong physical Up in the air & Lots of pace. His knowledge of players who he manages to contact regularly at other clubs & Then takes them when he needs them is amazing. Credit to him but there's just that something about him to dislike. If your owners want promotion this & next season, then you need a huge clear out & plenty of investment ( or Steve evans) for upgrades. Ruthlessness isn't affordable at Orient This season so it might take a few to be around the play offs for us. Are you're owners ready to be that brutal to bring in championship players & 3 or 4 PL loanees ? Vast majority of our squad's contracts run out at the end of this season, so I'm expecting a churn of players. Which is sad in a lot of ways I get that, but sentiment is a thing of the past unfortunately.
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Post by Philcounty on Nov 22, 2023 21:37:26 GMT
More from Luke Williams. This time on Wrexham.
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