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Post by wnm on Jan 29, 2024 21:37:13 GMT
Based on what exactly? This summer Aston Villa couldn’t find a L1 club who wanted to take him on loan and give him regular football. Based on him being better than Al Ahmedi and being at a premier league club. You’ve watched a lot of Wimbledon player have you? Also not sure what the second bit has to do with anything.
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Post by mat1scfc on Jan 29, 2024 21:53:48 GMT
The player to compare Barry to most in terms of circumstances is jaden philogene
Villa sold him to hull for £5 million in the summer
Philogene hadn't had as many loans as Barry but his 2 loans have both been in the championship and when he's been at villa he's been with the first team more than Barry has
Philogene is currently injured (back mid February) and has a record of
14 games 6 goals 5 goals
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jan 29, 2024 21:57:28 GMT
Good point Stranded. Mansfield denied Oates challange on Ben was deliberate, yet Clough is on record here a few weeks later saying its a Mansfield tactic 😳 Pye was no accident either, deliberately took our best Centre Half in form on purpose IMO. Im sure Brian Clough who encouraged fair play would be proud ☹ It's a bit different though. I got the impression that Clough was referring to impeding the keeper to stop the quick ball up the field. Unsavoury/ dark arts but it happens and arguably is good footballing sense if you get away with it, like professional fouls. That's not the same as telling his players to leave a leg in on the opposition keeper when charging down. He's not stupid enough to admit that on camera. He literally said to foul the keeper. That’s black and white. Goes beyond just getting in the way of a quick release that’s rarely given as a foul.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jan 29, 2024 21:59:32 GMT
Based on what exactly? This summer Aston Villa couldn’t find a L1 club who wanted to take him on loan and give him regular football. Based on him being better than Al Ahmedi and being at a premier league club. Al Hamadi had people looking at him in the summer, Wimbledon allegedly turned down a million for him then. Barry could end up better, but right now he isn’t.
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Post by mat1scfc on Jan 29, 2024 22:25:08 GMT
Cb that can play cb and LB. To me that would suggest he cab play LCB in a 3 if needed. Seems abit injury prone but been at reading for about 8 years if not abit longer
Seems a bargain
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on Jan 29, 2024 23:37:49 GMT
If he's going from L2 for almost £2m, Barry would be in excess of £5m from a prem club Wouldn't be surprised if Barry was starring for Villa this time next year More chance of me starring for Villa next year. He’s had a good quarter of a season or so at L2 level.
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Post by sk5countyfan on Jan 30, 2024 0:31:58 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if Barry was starring for Villa this time next year More chance of me starring for Villa next year. He’s had a good quarter of a season or so at L2 level. What are you smoking With all the young players in the premiere league this season .I haven't seen anybody control the ball like Barry when running into the box And yes I know it's only league two ...but give him another 12 months
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Post by mat1scfc on Jan 30, 2024 0:35:49 GMT
Josh earl the lcb dave wanted us to sign from Fleetwood is joining Barnsley.
Seems Fleetwood have had abit of clear out this January
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Post by alkringtonhatter on Jan 30, 2024 6:43:19 GMT
It’s a bit of a jump to say Villa couldn’t find an L1 club for Barry. You don’t know that.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Jan 30, 2024 7:25:37 GMT
Josh earl the lcb dave wanted us to sign from Fleetwood is joining Barnsley. Seems Fleetwood have had abit of clear out this January The problem we have at LCB, if you want to call it that!, is Pye. His emergence means we can't just go and sign a first choice LCB. We have one who's developing fast. So we need one that's prepared to fight for their place and not be an automatic starter, especially with us playing a back 4 currently. That's another layer to difficult of finding one. With Bennett coming in, I suspect we'll leave it, make do and reassess in the summer.
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Post by mat1scfc on Jan 30, 2024 7:29:35 GMT
Josh earl the lcb dave wanted us to sign from Fleetwood is joining Barnsley. Seems Fleetwood have had abit of clear out this January The problem we have at LCB, if you want to call it that!, is Pye. His emergence means we can't just go and sign a first choice LCB. We have one who's developing fast. So we need one that's prepared to fight for their place and not be an automatic starter, especially with us playing a back 4 currently. That's another layer to difficult of finding one. With Bennett coming in, I suspect we'll leave it, make do and reassess in the summer. 100% agree Im happy playing Wright and horsfall as the cbs in the back 4 with Byrne covering horsfall and Bennett covering Wright on the left. If we signed a LCB it would give challinor the scope to play a back 5 but hopefully by the time pye is back he sees that the back 4 is far superior to the back 5 But back to Josh earl It was more than I mentioned him because @daveschofield wanted us to sign him but I guess would be a case of earl would've been very hard to sign because he's joined a top league 1 side from a bad league 1 side.
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Post by vicar on Jan 30, 2024 8:15:40 GMT
Josh earl the lcb dave wanted us to sign from Fleetwood is joining Barnsley. Seems Fleetwood have had abit of clear out this January Wrexham are rumoured to be after Jack Marriott too, I think Fleetwood are in trouble.
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on Jan 30, 2024 9:35:25 GMT
More chance of me starring for Villa next year. He’s had a good quarter of a season or so at L2 level. What are you smoking With all the young players in the premiere league this season .I haven't seen anybody control the ball like Barry when running into the box And yes I know it's only league two ...but give him another 12 months You can’t have watched much PL then. He’s good but let’s not go overboard, he’s nowhere near PL level yet. If he was, he’d be on loan at a higher level than L2. More chance of him being with us next season than being in the Villa squad IMO.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Jan 30, 2024 9:46:22 GMT
Cb that can play cb and LB. To me that would suggest he cab play LCB in a 3 if needed. Seems abit injury prone but been at reading for about 8 years if not abit longer Seems a bargain A steal, you mean. The FA needs to do more to stop the likes of Dai Yongge getting their greasy hands on a football club
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Post by suedehead on Jan 30, 2024 10:25:13 GMT
More chance of me starring for Villa next year. He’s had a good quarter of a season or so at L2 level. What are you smoking With all the young players in the premiere league this season .I haven't seen anybody control the ball like Barry when running into the box And yes I know it's only league two ...but give him another 12 months Barry has been brilliant for us and I'd love to see him in the PL, but let's not get carried away. He looked far too good for us before his injury but that only a relatively short period (16 appearances) and he was up against fourth division defenders. He's been at higher levels before and not really done much (1 in 22 for MK Dons 22/23). Of course he could kick on and fly through the divisions but running rings around centre halves from Accrington, Doncaster and Crawley is very different from facing up to the likes of Virgil van Dijk, Ruben Dias etc. Factor in we've yet to see how he'll recover from a serious injury and I think it's much more likely we'll see him at L1 than starring for Villa in the PL in 12 months.
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