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Post by Count de Stockport on May 12, 2024 17:13:18 GMT
Crewe can f*ck off. Despised them for a very long time before any of the stories came out. And still not forgotten the glee they took from our relegation either. I wish them nothing but failure and strife. I honestly wouldn’t have an opinion about them if it wasn’t for how they’ve dealt with the Bennell stuff
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Post by pugwash on May 12, 2024 17:22:33 GMT
Lindsey walked out of Swindon to go to Crawley. I don't think he wasn't wanted, just knew Swindon are a real mess of a club. Swindon fans wanted him gone, a lot of talk at the time about him jumping before he was pushed. What do fans know eh ? no budget either.
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Post by TC on May 12, 2024 17:30:29 GMT
As much as i dont really like Crewe, its local.... League 1 is overloaded with teams south of Birmingham. We dont want another... Not true. L1 will be fairly evenly balanced geographically next season. There are currently 12 from Brum northwards and if Bolton lose and Crewe win, there would be 14.
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Post by bigmartin on May 12, 2024 17:41:39 GMT
Crewe can f*ck off. Despised them for a very long time before any of the stories came out. And still not forgotten the glee they took from our relegation either. I wish them nothing but failure and strife. I'm waiting for the day when their insurance contributions make them uncompetitive due to the child abuse scandal. I'm intrigued. What do you mean?
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Post by stevie57 on May 12, 2024 17:45:47 GMT
I think the point about Crewe, MK, and others has been made - few have had any new insights to offer for some time apart from demonstrating how on-point they are; we need to move on, and endless repetition of it for new young Alex supporters is not on. I don’t think Crewe are very good, so on that basis, a local Cheshire derby would be preferable to a more difficult trip to Gatwick Airport next season.
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Post by hedleyverity on May 12, 2024 18:08:23 GMT
I think the point about Crewe, MK, and others has been made - few have had any new insights to offer for some time apart from demonstrating how on-point they are; we need to move on, and endless repetition of it for new young Alex supporters is not on. I don’t think Crewe are very good, so on that basis, a local Cheshire derby would be preferable to a more difficult trip to Gatwick Airport next season. True to a point, apart from any young Crewe fans who sing songs about Dario being a 'football genius', and any older Crewe fans who put their fingers in their ears and closed their eyes instead of driving the people responsible out of their club, which seems to be pretty much all of them. So there might be a couple of dozen who aren't apologists (at best) for hideous crimes that have ruined lives and led to more than one suicide.
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Post by bigmartin on May 12, 2024 18:21:30 GMT
I think the point about Crewe, MK, and others has been made - few have had any new insights to offer for some time apart from demonstrating how on-point they are; we need to move on, and endless repetition of it for new young Alex supporters is not on. I don’t think Crewe are very good, so on that basis, a local Cheshire derby would be preferable to a more difficult trip to Gatwick Airport next season. True to a point, apart from any young Crewe fans who sing songs about Dario being a 'football genius', and any older Crewe fans who put their fingers in their ears and closed their eyes instead of driving the people responsible out of their club, which seems to be pretty much all of them. So there might be a couple of dozen who aren't apologists (at best) for hideous crimes that have ruined lives and led to more than one suicide. You make "driving people out of their club" sound really easy there. We should know as much as anyone that it's not quite as simple as that.
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Post by hedleyverity on May 12, 2024 18:28:52 GMT
True to a point, apart from any young Crewe fans who sing songs about Dario being a 'football genius', and any older Crewe fans who put their fingers in their ears and closed their eyes instead of driving the people responsible out of their club, which seems to be pretty much all of them. So there might be a couple of dozen who aren't apologists (at best) for hideous crimes that have ruined lives and led to more than one suicide. You make "driving people out of their club" sound really easy there. We should know as much as anyone that it's not quite as simple as that. It might not be easy, but they didn't make a single effort
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Post by bigmartin on May 12, 2024 18:36:54 GMT
You make "driving people out of their club" sound really easy there. We should know as much as anyone that it's not quite as simple as that. It might not be easy, but they didn't make a single effort Do we know this? A genuine question. I don't know what they did and what they didn't do. It's not stuff I like to dwell on.
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Post by Mozzer on May 12, 2024 19:00:31 GMT
It might not be easy, but they didn't make a single effort Do we know this? A genuine question. I don't know what they did and what they didn't do. It's not stuff I like to dwell on. There was an article in The Graun by a Crewe fan basically saying he thought no-one involved there, including the fans, were doing anywhere near enough to own up or face up to what had gone on. His was a rare voice. I'll see if I can find it.
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Post by hedleyverity on May 12, 2024 19:00:42 GMT
It might not be easy, but they didn't make a single effort Do we know this? A genuine question. I don't know what they did and what they didn't do. It's not stuff I like to dwell on. I read a piece in When Saturday Comes by their former fanzine editor who walked away in disgust, never seen anything else, I'll hold my hands up if they were on the pitch and storming the directors box? Remember Bennell was first convicted in the 90's and there was 20 odd years of Crewe ignoring it in the hope it would go away, which worked until Andy Woodward spoke out, and even that didn't change the attitude of those running the club.
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Post by Mozzer on May 12, 2024 19:05:16 GMT
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Post by Stranded Hatter on May 12, 2024 19:10:29 GMT
Do we know this? A genuine question. I don't know what they did and what they didn't do. It's not stuff I like to dwell on. I read a piece in When Saturday Comes by their former fanzine editor who walked away in disgust, never seen anything else, I'll hold my hands up if they were on the pitch and storming the directors box? Remember Bennell was first convicted in the 90's and there was 20 odd years of Crewe ignoring it in the hope it would go away, which worked until Andy Woodward spoke out, and even that didn't change the attitude of those running the club. They also took victims families to court. It’s vile.
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Post by tgttiw on May 12, 2024 19:33:19 GMT
I'm waiting for the day when their insurance contributions make them uncompetitive due to the child abuse scandal. I'm intrigued. What do you mean? I'm surprised that this hasn't happened but as institution crewe would be liable for damages to a lot of young boys. City to their credit have settled up, crewe haven't got as deep pockets haven't. At some point the ligation surely will start when it does after a year or so their public indemnity insurance will be really expensive I'm talking 7 figures. That'll make them uncompetitive and see them sink like a stone. Does anyone with a legal background help out here?
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Post by bigmartin on May 12, 2024 21:35:32 GMT
I'm intrigued. What do you mean? I'm surprised that this hasn't happened but as institution crewe would be liable for damages to a lot of young boys. City to their credit have settled up, crewe haven't got as deep pockets haven't. At some point the ligation surely will start when it does after a year or so their public indemnity insurance will be really expensive I'm talking 7 figures. That'll make them uncompetitive and see them sink like a stone. Does anyone with a legal background help out here? Public Indemnity insurance doesn't provide coverage for illegal acts on the part of the policyholder (as don't many insurance classes). Which could have a marked financial impact on Crewe I guess but perhaps not in the manner in which you're thinking (ie. in the sense that damages would come out of their purse, not the insurer)
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