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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 8, 2024 15:13:41 GMT
This by the way is the type of stuff Southgate deserves his credit for. Whilst having to need the shootout in the first place is disappointing, this level of preparation makes it no fluke that the players delivered so well. Was also clear to see all players had a very strong regimented preparation for each penalty, including some form of deep breath/breathwork before running up to take the penalty. Might seem silly to some but it’s probably the difference between a win and a loss. ”He” probably was Foden, then? www.football365.com/news/alexander-arnold-caught-letting-slip-that-england-team-mate-didnt-want-to-take-penalty
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Post by samscfc on Jul 8, 2024 16:31:07 GMT
This by the way is the type of stuff Southgate deserves his credit for. Whilst having to need the shootout in the first place is disappointing, this level of preparation makes it no fluke that the players delivered so well. Was also clear to see all players had a very strong regimented preparation for each penalty, including some form of deep breath/breathwork before running up to take the penalty. Might seem silly to some but it’s probably the difference between a win and a loss. Agreed. Even I'll give him credit for that. That's good stuff.
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Post by scfc73 on Jul 8, 2024 16:44:34 GMT
Compared to what we've seen in past tournaments the penalties were class. Calm, cool, & composed. Heart in the mouth moment when Saka stepped up for one, So glad he put it away, showed great courage for a young lad to put himself in that position again considering the sickening abuse he suffered in the previous Euro's. I for one wouldn't have blamed him one iota if he'd declined to put himself forward for the initial pens.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 8, 2024 16:51:42 GMT
Anyone saying they'd rather us lost 4-3 than progress to the final is just weird. That's me that's weird then. You're fibbing. You've done this before. Just stated stuff which is so stupendously outrageous just to be the contrarian. I don't know if you enjoy contrarianism or like to be argumentative or the odd one out. There isn't one single England fan whom, if we win a major tournament will turn their back on the celebration and say "I wish we'd lost 4-3 in an exciting game". Not a single one. And you can add French, Spanish and Dutch people to. This is just absolute nonsense. You know it, we know it.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 8, 2024 16:58:46 GMT
Thankfully you'll be in a minority. He won't. He'll be on Yellowboard absolutely stoked saying "I was wrong, sorry everyone, enjoy your beers". This stuff he's coming out with is to create a safety blanket if we blow out on Wednesday or Sunday. He can pout his lips and say "I don't care...didn't want to win in this style". Absolute bollocks it is.
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Post by hedleyverity on Jul 8, 2024 18:12:47 GMT
That's me that's weird then. Does the order of preference not go… 1. Performance & result. 2. If you can’t play well, just get the result. 3. If you can’t get the result, play well. 4. Poor performance & no result. ? Number 1 is play really badly and then pop in an extra time winner
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Post by Fez on Jul 8, 2024 22:28:01 GMT
The ref who will take charge of our game on Wednesday has been punished for match fixing in the past in Germany (german ref) Jude Bellingham called him out while be was at dortmund Why's he allowed to referee again, especially at this level? Evidently he dobbed in his pal: 'Zwayer hit the headlines in 2014 when his punishment, which was handed down by Germany’s football federation (DFB) after he had worked alongside the referee Robert Hoyzer, finally came to light. Hoyzer was banned for life and Zwayer was among the officials who brought his match-fixing plot into the open, which was reflected in the relatively short ban. 'According to Zwayer, he was asked by Hoyzer to fix the result of a 2. Bundesliga match between Rot-Weiss Essen and Cologne. “When I got this firm offer from Hoyzer, I went to my refereeing colleagues,” he said. “I stress once again that I strongly rejected this offer straightaway.” 'He has always denied being involved in Hoyzer’s fix of a game between Wuppertal and Werder Bremen B in 2004, although a DFB investigation discovered he had accepted a payment of €300 from Hoyzer.' www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jul/08/semi-final-referee-felix-zwayer-has-history-with-englands-jude-bellingham
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Post by ancienthatter on Jul 8, 2024 22:42:52 GMT
I don’t think I’m making this up… but every time that England have played in a tournament semi-final County have been promoted the following season. It’s happened 5 times. This is the 6th semi final. Promotion next year?? 😬
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Post by Count de Stockport on Jul 9, 2024 6:04:50 GMT
I don’t think I’m making this up… but every time that England have played in a tournament semi-final County have been promoted the following season. It’s happened 5 times. This is the 6th semi final. Promotion next year?? 😬 Just to pwn the Wrexham fans? Oh, go on then 😋
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 9, 2024 8:04:26 GMT
That's me that's weird then. You're fibbing. You've done this before. Just stated stuff which is so stupendously outrageous just to be the contrarian. I don't know if you enjoy contrarianism or like to be argumentative or the odd one out. There isn't one single England fan whom, if we win a major tournament will turn their back on the celebration and say "I wish we'd lost 4-3 in an exciting game". Not a single one. And you can add French, Spanish and Dutch people to. This is just absolute nonsense. You know it, we know it. Still think the difference and the game itself will be looked at by people who have different saturday afternoons. The regular fan if they support england will want a win any way possible. The armchairs, especially the ones who only watch a big game with no allegiance to either side wants a memorable spectacle. Then there are the southgate haters who want a defeat for the agenda they have with him. Why this dislike of the guy i never know as even if he is the normal FA type of appointment he has only joined the number who were in the past who results wise did worse.
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Post by gibbo on Jul 9, 2024 8:05:07 GMT
That's me that's weird then. You're fibbing. Not at all BM, just can't get excited by the dross served up, regardless of whether it might lead to a trophy.
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Post by gibbo on Jul 9, 2024 8:06:13 GMT
Thankfully you'll be in a minority. He won't. He'll be on Yellowboard absolutely stoked saying "I was wrong, sorry everyone, enjoy your beers". Cue the "I love you bigmartin" post on Sunday night....
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Post by mattyovrio on Jul 9, 2024 8:56:24 GMT
You're fibbing. You've done this before. Just stated stuff which is so stupendously outrageous just to be the contrarian. I don't know if you enjoy contrarianism or like to be argumentative or the odd one out. There isn't one single England fan whom, if we win a major tournament will turn their back on the celebration and say "I wish we'd lost 4-3 in an exciting game". Not a single one. And you can add French, Spanish and Dutch people to. This is just absolute nonsense. You know it, we know it. Still think the difference and the game itself will be looked at by people who have different saturday afternoons. The regular fan if they support england will want a win any way possible. The armchairs, especially the ones who only watch a big game with no allegiance to either side wants a memorable spectacle. Then there are the southgate haters who want a defeat for the agenda they have with him. Why this dislike of the guy i never know as even if he is the normal FA type of appointment he has only joined the number who were in the past who results wise did worse. Is there a crossover of Southgate haters and right wing loons? I suspect some see him as ‘woke’ and too nice and venomously hate all that they see as workery, including Southgate. full credit to him on the prep for penners. Full credit on his tournament record. I still think this time we have been a tad lucky as one shot on goal in 90 mins doesn’t normally result in one goal, but it has twice. I really hope we click tomorrow and have some more shots on target.
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Post by mattyovrio on Jul 9, 2024 8:58:10 GMT
That's me that's weird then. You're fibbing. You've done this before. Just stated stuff which is so stupendously outrageous just to be the contrarian. I don't know if you enjoy contrarianism or like to be argumentative or the odd one out. There isn't one single England fan whom, if we win a major tournament will turn their back on the celebration and say "I wish we'd lost 4-3 in an exciting game". Not a single one. And you can add French, Spanish and Dutch people to. This is just absolute nonsense. You know it, we know it. A bit harsh that BM. We aren’t all the same. I can see Gibbo’s viewpoint. He has also managed to avoid blaming Jim Gannon for it, which must be a first!🥳🤣🎉
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 9, 2024 9:51:00 GMT
Still think the difference and the game itself will be looked at by people who have different saturday afternoons. The regular fan if they support england will want a win any way possible. The armchairs, especially the ones who only watch a big game with no allegiance to either side wants a memorable spectacle. Then there are the southgate haters who want a defeat for the agenda they have with him. Why this dislike of the guy i never know as even if he is the normal FA type of appointment he has only joined the number who were in the past who results wise did worse. Is there a crossover of Southgate haters and right wing loons? I suspect some see him as ‘woke’ and too nice and venomously hate all that they see as workery, including Southgate. full credit to him on the prep for penners. Full credit on his tournament record. I still think this time we have been a tad lucky as one shot on goal in 90 mins doesn’t normally result in one goal, but it has twice. I really hope we click tomorrow and have some more shots on target. The mention or right wing loons made me think of a comment made by somebody involved in the kick it out campaign. Said some are just waiting for a non white player to miss a penalty. Will we ever get away from these bloody loons in life.
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