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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 10, 2024 23:26:23 GMT
Absolutely brilliant and sets us all up for a great Sunday evening. On the game, was working until 8.20, but what I saw after that was us dominating until half time and then the Dutch adjusting to negate Foden who had been brilliant and the rest of our midfield. When the win was achieved it was through a superb finish from Watkins and feels deserved. Worry is Kane who again took a knock and maybe looks to be losing a little bit. However, I said when he went off that we would lose because he has talismanic qualities, but maybe we have buried that as well now. Spain might still be a step too far, but think we have reached where we wanted to be. I was disappointed when he took Foden off as he’d had a good game and I thought Bellingham had been anonymous, but Bellingham looked a bit more involved after the changes so spot on from Southgate again. I’m mostly pleased he left Mainoo on. I think Mainoo has been possibly our most important player this tournament
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Post by Waldorf on Jul 10, 2024 23:27:21 GMT
Just great. Yet another decent team we’ve beat. Successive finals in a major tournament. Drink it in, because we’ll not see the likes of this again for a long time. Name on the trophy for Sunday. What other decent teams have we beat? Switzerland.
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Post by sheffieldrowland on Jul 10, 2024 23:40:47 GMT
I think you’ve got to hand it to Southgate in that sense, the players he’s brought on have had an impact each time. I’d want them to be brought on earlier (or start), but you can’t argue with the results. Can’t imagine how Watkins feels tonight, what a goal and he’s barely played. Oh god, maybe Southgate’s got it right. These days there’s a lot more talk in football about using players to open and close games. I wouldn’t be surprised to still see Kane start on Sunday, but Watkins (as did Toney previously tbf) has just staked a great claim to be the one we turn to off the bench again.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 10, 2024 23:47:00 GMT
I think you’ve got to hand it to Southgate in that sense, the players he’s brought on have had an impact each time. I’d want them to be brought on earlier (or start), but you can’t argue with the results. These days there’s a lot more talk in football about using players to open and close games. I wouldn’t be surprised to still see Kane start on Sunday, but Watkins (as did Toney previously tbf) has just staked a great claim to be the one we turn to off the bench again. It's been a bit of a substitution master class. But try persuading the bellyachers of that fact.
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Post by wnm on Jul 11, 2024 0:06:42 GMT
Absolutely brilliant and sets us all up for a great Sunday evening. On the game, was working until 8.20, but what I saw after that was us dominating until half time and then the Dutch adjusting to negate Foden who had been brilliant and the rest of our midfield. When the win was achieved it was through a superb finish from Watkins and feels deserved. Worry is Kane who again took a knock and maybe looks to be losing a little bit. However, I said when he went off that we would lose because he has talismanic qualities, but maybe we have buried that as well now. Spain might still be a step too far, but think we have reached where we wanted to be. I was disappointed when he took Foden off as he’d had a good game and I thought Bellingham had been anonymous, but Bellingham looked a bit more involved after the changes so spot on from Southgate again. I’m mostly pleased he left Mainoo on. I think Mainoo has been possibly our most important player this tournament The subs gave Bellingham a huge lift. He was getting more disheartened throughout that second half as he was trying to squeeze higher and press but Kane wasn’t capable and Foden was tiring. As soon as he had some energy in the front three he got a second wind.
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Post by wnm on Jul 11, 2024 1:17:25 GMT
I've enjoyed his commentary before and he's been absolutely fine tonight He's insipid for me. "Lovely guy", "tell you what, you're spot on". Boring. Keeps the love inside for England though. There's absolutely no need for 2 of them. You have to ask yourself why they've decided to do it now. Anti English perspective is the only reason I can think of. Like I said, get a Dutch person on to provide balance and I totally get it. Dixon is a fun sponge and Matterface is crap and nowhere near number 1 quality. Together they are terrible and universally disliked. They add McCoist to big games because he’s quite popular and jovial.
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Post by Mozzer on Jul 11, 2024 6:26:57 GMT
One QF, one SF, 2 finals. Somehow we've managed this by playing hardly anyone good and being lucky.
Okay.
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Post by alkringtonhatter on Jul 11, 2024 6:32:46 GMT
One QF, one SF, 2 finals. Somehow we've managed this by playing hardly anyone good and being lucky. Okay. Not beaten Brazil away though, have we? Johan Cruyff wasn’t playing last night so that doesn’t count, either. Southgate is a FRAUD.
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Post by tvor on Jul 11, 2024 6:36:23 GMT
Absolutely brilliant and sets us all up for a great Sunday evening. On the game, was working until 8.20, but what I saw after that was us dominating until half time and then the Dutch adjusting to negate Foden who had been brilliant and the rest of our midfield. When the win was achieved it was through a superb finish from Watkins and feels deserved. Worry is Kane who again took a knock and maybe looks to be losing a little bit. However, I said when he went off that we would lose because he has talismanic qualities, but maybe we have buried that as well now. Spain might still be a step too far, but think we have reached where we wanted to be. I was disappointed when he took Foden off as he’d had a good game and I thought Bellingham had been anonymous, but Bellingham looked a bit more involved after the changes so spot on from Southgate again. I’m mostly pleased he left Mainoo on. I think Mainoo has been possibly our most important player this tournament For me Mainoo was MOM. Time for Southgate to end his love affair with Harry Kane and pick players based on their performances not reputation. We can't afford to be carrying anybody.
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Post by scfc29 on Jul 11, 2024 6:39:04 GMT
Stirring the pot but the Southgate out mards are noticeable by their absence. Good. I think I’ve seen every poster who’s been critical of Southgate also give credit where it was due last night. Whilst not a perfect performance, we were on the front in the first half and you expect a period of tense football at some point in a semi final like we saw in the second half. He can take full credit for the goal with the two subs combining. I really don’t buy the idea that people want to see him fail, they just want us to make the most of the squad that we have at our disposal and it felt like we did that last night.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Jul 11, 2024 6:39:31 GMT
Just great. Yet another decent team we’ve beat. Successive finals in a major tournament. Drink it in, because we’ll not see the likes of this again for a long time. Name on the trophy for Sunday. It's also boiling a lot of piss! Social media is awash with tears and saltiness from as close as Scotland to as far away as, well, wherever! Never a pen, flukey b*stards, Dutch were robbed, England were sh*the and will get pasted by Spain ... I tell you what though, the sheer delight in Ollie Watkins' face when he wheels away, love it! Every team we’ve beaten since Colombia in 2018 has been robbed. Nobody likes us 😂
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 11, 2024 6:55:00 GMT
I was disappointed when he took Foden off as he’d had a good game and I thought Bellingham had been anonymous, but Bellingham looked a bit more involved after the changes so spot on from Southgate again. I’m mostly pleased he left Mainoo on. I think Mainoo has been possibly our most important player this tournament For me Mainoo was MOM. Time for Southgate to end his love affair with Harry Kane and pick players based on their performances not reputation. We can't afford to be carrying anybody. Mainoo was quality and definitely up there for MOTM. I think generally speaking Southgate has selected based on form over reputation in his time as England manager, but it does feel like Kane is undroppable right now despite not looking remotely fit all tournament. Despite my comment earlier up about expecting Kane to start and on Watkins and Toney being used as "closers" or "finishers" at the end of games I think I'd rather one of them starts. I can't help but think they'd have got on the end of one of Saka's passes in the box (and maybe buried the chance Kane put over the bar when he won the penalty).
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Post by suedehead on Jul 11, 2024 6:57:54 GMT
He's insipid for me. "Lovely guy", "tell you what, you're spot on". Boring. Keeps the love inside for England though. There's absolutely no need for 2 of them. You have to ask yourself why they've decided to do it now. Anti English perspective is the only reason I can think of. Like I said, get a Dutch person on to provide balance and I totally get it. Dixon is a fun sponge and Matterface is crap and nowhere near number 1 quality. Together they are terrible and universally disliked. They add McCoist to big games because he’s quite popular and jovial. Matterface should have had his mic taken off him after this abomination about ten years ago.
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Post by mattyovrio on Jul 11, 2024 7:29:15 GMT
Let’s hope we are in for a final as exciting as the semi. Full credit to Southgate, he finally got a tune out of the players that was worth listening too. Felt sorry for Foden. What does he have to do to get a goal?
Kane should be benched, but doubt he will be. We might only beat Spain in one out of ten games, let’s hope it is the one on Sunday!
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 11, 2024 7:47:03 GMT
Let’s hope we are in for a final as exciting as the semi. Full credit to Southgate, he finally got a tune out of the players that was worth listening too. Felt sorry for Foden. What does he have to do to get a goal? Kane should be benched, but doubt he will be. We might only beat Spain in one out of ten games, let’s hope it is the one on Sunday! Exactly. Its a one off game where either team are capable of winning it and you need a good slice of luck winning a KO cpmpetition at any standard.
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