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Post by bristolhatter on Jul 14, 2024 21:18:02 GMT
Southgate's the worst manager in English football history!!!11!!!11!one!!1 He's not (I know it's tongue in cheek) but if I got City to 8th in the prem next year, that would be a great achievement compared to when they were playing macc but you look at the squad, achievements and you just know he's not on the same level as this squad. Most frustrating bit is we could have kicked on at 1-1 if we'd lost after kicking on then c'est la vie but we went back in to our shell, and that's all on him
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Post by Count de Stockport on Jul 14, 2024 21:21:40 GMT
He's not (I know it's tongue in cheek) but if I got City to 8th in the prem next year, that would be a great achievement compared to when they were playing macc but you look at the squad, achievements and you just know he's not on the same level as this squad. Most frustrating bit is we could have kicked on at 1-1 if we'd lost after kicking on then c'est la vie but we went back in to our shell, and that's all on him Exactly where my frustration is coming from right now. Why wrest the advantage from them only to hand it back on a silver platter? f*cking gutless
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 14, 2024 21:22:26 GMT
Exactly where my frustration is coming from right now. Why wrest the advantage from them only to hand it back on a silver platter? f*cking gutless It is what it is. We go again.
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Post by scfc29 on Jul 14, 2024 21:23:54 GMT
Sad way to end it really.
Story of Southgate’s time is finishing second best when it matters.
I respect what’s he’s done, he’s turned the national teams fortunes round to an extent. Brought the feel good factor back and made us believe and go deeper into tournaments.
Unfortunately, when it’s mattered against Croatia, Italy and Spain (with weaker squads than we’ve had our disposal) - we’ve fell short.
He’s not the worst England of all time or anything like that and we can be grateful of what he has done well, but missing 3 golden opportunities like this is a failure.
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Post by nelly on Jul 14, 2024 21:24:37 GMT
Exactly where my frustration is coming from right now. Why wrest the advantage from them only to hand it back on a silver platter? f*cking gutless It is what it is. We go again. Oyarzabal scored the winner for Spain. Wish the tw*t would stick to playing for Tears for fears.
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Post by popeye on Jul 14, 2024 21:24:56 GMT
Exactly where my frustration is coming from right now. Why wrest the advantage from them only to hand it back on a silver platter? f*cking gutless It is what it is. We go again. No - it’s time for a more attacking approach. It has been like watching Rusk Ball Challinor for England - but only on a part time basis mind.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 14, 2024 21:27:58 GMT
It is what it is. We go again. Oyarzabal scored the winner for Spain. Wish the tw*t would stick to playing for Tears for fears. It’s a very, very… SAD… world… (In the England dressing room… )
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Post by atmosphere on Jul 14, 2024 21:30:43 GMT
Southgate backers quiet. I want to see them come and defend their man. I want to be convinced. I'd like nothing more than to have my mind altered because Southgate is genuinely a very nice man.
But I think the excuses are in short supply now.
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Post by mustafapoint on Jul 14, 2024 21:32:37 GMT
Oyarzabal?
He's Basque. He's even played for the Basque National team.
Turncoat.
We demand a rematch!
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Post by popeye on Jul 14, 2024 21:33:02 GMT
Oyarzabal scored the winner for Spain. Wish the tw*t would stick to playing for Tears for fears. It’s a very, very… SAD… world… (In the England dressing room… ) It time for CHANGE
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Post by nelly on Jul 14, 2024 21:33:11 GMT
Oyarzabal scored the winner for Spain. Wish the tw*t would stick to playing for Tears for fears. It’s a very, very… SAD… world… (In the England dressing room… ) CHANGE !! we can change.
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Post by mustafapoint on Jul 14, 2024 21:33:43 GMT
Time for Jürgen Klopp?
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Post by scfc73 on Jul 14, 2024 21:36:14 GMT
Lost to the best team in the competition. Thought we were disciplined in a cagey 1st half but then 2 lapses of concentration in the 2nd cost us. Brief flicker of hope with Palmer's goal but overall we didn't keep the ball well enough & at times made it too easy for them, we're better on the front foot but we've not done that enough in this tournament. Not totally despondent, we've got a a good core of young players who will have gained good experience from this. 4 years time on home soil is where we'll do it.
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Post by atmosphere on Jul 14, 2024 21:36:52 GMT
One bridesmaid for another.
How many times has Klopp come 2nd or lost a European final holding his cock?
Very sound manager who has got over the line occasion but if we're going foreign, it needs to be some win at all costs Spaniard, their mentality is superior.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 14, 2024 21:38:23 GMT
Southgate backers quiet. I want to see them come and defend their man. I want to be convinced. I'd like nothing more than to have my mind altered because Southgate is genuinely a very nice man. But I think the excuses are in short supply now. Ummm? I’ve posted and I back him. I think he’s done a fantastic job if fallen short at the final hurdle. “Southgate backers quiet” what like you went quiet when we got to another Euro final? He’s done a good job, if a little safe at times. We’ve been the better team in every game we’ve played until the final when we were only second best to an outstanding Spanish side by the finest of margins. That game could have gone either way. Were Spain shit when they were passing sideways and backwards in the first half as well? We’re the second best team in Europe for the second tournament in a row. This period of supporting England is the best it’s been in my life and I’m enjoying it even though we’ve fallen short. I’d like to see Southgate have one last shot at the World Cup but wouldn’t blame him if he decides against it. We’re not nearly as defensive as people seem to think we are either. We’re safe and we’re controlled but by and large we’re a pretty mixed setup. End of the day this is one of those things where views are already entrenched. We could have won that today (and we really could) and you wouldn’t have shifted your viewpoint one iota. Whoever comes after Southgate had really better hit the ground running or the knives really will be out. Poisoned chalice time again?
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