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Post by nelly on Jul 14, 2024 21:38:53 GMT
One bridesmaid for another.
How many times has Klopp come 2nd or lost a European final holding his cock?
Very sound manager who has got over the line occasion but if we're going foreign, it needs to be some win at all costs Spaniard, their mentality is superior.
Pep.
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Post by stalybridgehatter on Jul 14, 2024 21:39:21 GMT
Klopp has Atrial Fibrillation, it's part of the reason he has quit football management.
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Post by stalybridgehatter on Jul 14, 2024 21:40:08 GMT
Southgate backers quiet. I want to see them come and defend their man. I want to be convinced. I'd like nothing more than to have my mind altered because Southgate is genuinely a very nice man. But I think the excuses are in short supply now. Who would you have as manager?
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 14, 2024 21:41:13 GMT
One bridesmaid for another.
How many times has Klopp come 2nd or lost a European final holding his cock?
Very sound manager who has got over the line occasion but if we're going foreign, it needs to be some win at all costs Spaniard, their mentality is superior.
Pep. Pep isn’t cut out for international management. You can't coach teams the way he does in six weeks a year.
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Post by popeye on Jul 14, 2024 21:41:43 GMT
Southgate backers quiet. I want to see them come and defend their man. I want to be convinced. I'd like nothing more than to have my mind altered because Southgate is genuinely a very nice man. But I think the excuses are in short supply now. Ummm? I’ve posted and I back him. I think he’s done a fantastic job if fallen short at the final hurdle. “Southgate backers quiet” what like you went quiet when we got to another Euro final? He’s done a good job, if a little safe at times. We’ve been the better team in every game we’ve played until the final when we were only second best to an outstanding Spanish side by the finest of margins. That game could have gone either way. Were Spain shit when they were passing sideways and backwards in the first half as well? We’re the second best team in Europe for the second tournament in a row. This period of supporting England is the best it’s been in my life and I’m enjoying it even though we’ve fallen short. I’d like to see Southgate have one last shot at the World Cup but wouldn’t blame him if he decides against it. We’re not nearly as defensive as people seem to think we are either. We’re safe and we’re controlled but by and large we’re a pretty mixed setup. End of the day this is one of those things where views are already entrenched. We could have won that today (and we really could) and you wouldn’t have shifted your viewpoint one iota. Whoever comes after Southgate had really better hit the ground running or the knives really will be out. Poisoned chalice time again? Lee Carsley apparently, already been decided.
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Post by girojim on Jul 14, 2024 21:42:03 GMT
For sale "Lucky socks" used once.
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Post by suedehead on Jul 14, 2024 21:42:07 GMT
Justification for the Southgate doubters, sadly. First decent side we've played and they've passed us off the park. You'd think we were Slovakia or Denmark who'd had a good run the way we played tonight. You’ve had a terrible 24 hours on this board.
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Post by nelly on Jul 14, 2024 21:46:04 GMT
Pep isn’t cut out for international management. You can't coach teams the way he does in six weeks a year. It will be Graham Potter.
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Post by vicar on Jul 14, 2024 21:47:19 GMT
Absolutely gutted but that was the best game of the tournament and fitting final, I've been in amongst a couple of thousand Spaniards tonight and they've been very complimentary about England, I'm in the Southgate camp but I just wish we could turn the screw when we're on top.
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Post by atmosphere on Jul 14, 2024 21:47:27 GMT
Justification for the Southgate doubters, sadly. First decent side we've played and they've passed us off the park. You'd think we were Slovakia or Denmark who'd had a good run the way we played tonight. You’ve had a terrible 24 hours on this board. In your opinion Suedehead but I think it is time for a change in the management stakes. That's not the last 24 hours, that's been for a while.
I will hold the next manager to the same standard when he is managing the current crop of players.
I wanted Southgate to be successful. Anyone who says he isn't anything other than a decent guy I would disagree whole heartedly with.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 14, 2024 21:56:55 GMT
You’ve had a terrible 24 hours on this board. In your opinion Suedehead but I think it is time for a change in the management stakes. That's not the last 24 hours, that's been for a while.
I will hold the next manager to the same standard when he is managing the current crop of players.
I wanted Southgate to be successful. Anyone who says he isn't anything other than a decent guy I would disagree whole heartedly with.
You have quite clearly decided that the only thing that equals success is winning a whole tournament. It’s not an easy thing to do. Good luck to the next guy. For what it’s worth I would say Southgate has all but run his course - though I’d love him to get one last hurrah at the next World Cup. I’d be saying the same if we’d won tonight. But if this is the end then he ends it as the second best manager we’ve ever had and the best in my lifetime. I’m grateful for that and hope that whoever takes over builds on all the foundations he has built, the psychological stuff, the camaraderie, making it fun for the players to play for England. That is all so important and must not be ignored by whoever his successor is.
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Post by ebbs on Jul 14, 2024 21:59:39 GMT
Before the tournament I thought we were probably top 4, and we got to top 2 so job done really.
Having said that, thought we gave them far too much respect first hour. They scored and we went for them got an equaliser and were on top before dropping off again and going behind again.
Rhodris good ain't he.
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Post by bristolhatter on Jul 14, 2024 21:59:47 GMT
You’ve had a terrible 24 hours on this board. In your opinion Suedehead but I think it is time for a change in the management stakes. That's not the last 24 hours, that's been for a while.
I will hold the next manager to the same standard when he is managing the current crop of players.
I wanted Southgate to be successful. Anyone who says he isn't anything other than a decent guy I would disagree whole heartedly with.
Agree he's a decent bloke and he's probably done a lot with players psychologically and for team harmony. But if he's ever played poker I'd bet my house that he's never gone all in and that's his massive weakness. The best managers know when a team is on the ropes (not saying Spain were) but I've never got that impression from him. He's too Reactive, only brought Toney on when we conceded late, he was about to bring on Gallagher. If we'd had scored earlier v Holland, we'd have had 10+ mins of the alamo at the back!
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Post by vicar on Jul 14, 2024 22:03:58 GMT
In your opinion Suedehead but I think it is time for a change in the management stakes. That's not the last 24 hours, that's been for a while.
I will hold the next manager to the same standard when he is managing the current crop of players.
I wanted Southgate to be successful. Anyone who says he isn't anything other than a decent guy I would disagree whole heartedly with.
You have quite clearly decided that the only thing that equals success is winning a whole tournament. It’s not an easy thing to do. Good luck to the next guy. For what it’s worth I would say Southgate has all but run his course - though I’d love him to get one last hurrah at the next World Cup. I’d be saying the same if we’d won tonight. But if this is the end then he ends it as the second best manager we’ve ever had and the best in my lifetime. I’m grateful for that and hope that whoever takes over builds on all the foundations he has built, the psychological stuff, the camaraderie, making it fun for the players to play for England. That is all so important and must not be ignored by whoever his successor is. I want an English manager but I'd love a Klopp or a Guardiola, Southgate is a really likeable bloke and he's been successful and I know he's changed a lot behind the scenes but I'd love an inspirational manager who could make the team more than the sum of its parts.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 14, 2024 22:07:03 GMT
You have quite clearly decided that the only thing that equals success is winning a whole tournament. It’s not an easy thing to do. Good luck to the next guy. For what it’s worth I would say Southgate has all but run his course - though I’d love him to get one last hurrah at the next World Cup. I’d be saying the same if we’d won tonight. But if this is the end then he ends it as the second best manager we’ve ever had and the best in my lifetime. I’m grateful for that and hope that whoever takes over builds on all the foundations he has built, the psychological stuff, the camaraderie, making it fun for the players to play for England. That is all so important and must not be ignored by whoever his successor is. I want an English manager but I'd love a Klopp or a Guardiola, Southgate is a really likeable bloke and he's been successful and I know he's changed a lot behind the scenes but I'd love an inspirational manager who could make the team more than the sum of its parts. If you want a manager who could make a team more than the sum of its parts then you don’t want Pep.
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