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Post by timberwolf on Apr 5, 2023 8:35:57 GMT
Shows that draws can keep you down rather than promote you. 18 games unbeaten with Steve-o at the helm, wasn’t it? I for one don’t have the same level of expectation this season, but under the circumstances we could do without repeating the experiment to confirm whether the theory is correct! After seeing a bit of div.2 football last season i do think if we miss out on the PO it will be a season of underachieving.
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Post by wirralhatter93 on Apr 5, 2023 10:23:42 GMT
3-0.. Start of a 5 game winning streak
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Post by chadders on Apr 5, 2023 10:33:58 GMT
18 games unbeaten with Steve-o at the helm, wasn’t it? I for one don’t have the same level of expectation this season, but under the circumstances we could do without repeating the experiment to confirm whether the theory is correct! After seeing a bit of div.2 football last season i do think if we miss out on the PO it will be a season of underachieving. Definitely a season of underachieving if we don’t go up. I don’t base that on expectation or what money the owner has invested, or the size of our crowds. I base it on the fact that, at our best, we’re better than anyone in this league bar Orient. If we’d been able to rediscover the swagger we had last autumn when we beat Carlisle at home and Charlton in the replay, we’d have one foot in L1 and be planning our summer transfer business by now. You don’t have to be very good to win games in this league.
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Post by timberwolf on Apr 5, 2023 10:41:11 GMT
After seeing a bit of div.2 football last season i do think if we miss out on the PO it will be a season of underachieving. Definitely a season of underachieving if we don’t go up. I don’t base that on expectation or what money the owner has invested, or the size of our crowds. I base it on the fact that, at our best, we’re better than anyone in this league bar Orient. If we’d been able to rediscover the swagger we had last autumn when we beat Carlisle at home and Charlton in the replay, we’d have one foot in L1 and be planning our summer transfer business by now. You don’t have to be very good to win games in this league. Wonder if there was a game where we lost that autumn swagger for us to be like we are now or just part of the whole season where you will see good, bad and the bang average.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Apr 5, 2023 10:43:06 GMT
3-0.. Start of a 5 game winning streak I hope you're right, but seeing as how we haven't scored more than 1 goal in a game since February, I'm not hopeful.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Apr 5, 2023 10:47:52 GMT
After seeing a bit of div.2 football last season i do think if we miss out on the PO it will be a season of underachieving. Definitely a season of underachieving if we don’t go up. I don’t base that on expectation or what money the owner has invested, or the size of our crowds. I base it on the fact that, at our best, we’re better than anyone in this league bar Orient. If we’d been able to rediscover the swagger we had last autumn when we beat Carlisle at home and Charlton in the replay, we’d have one foot in L1 and be planning our summer transfer business by now. You don’t have to be very good to win games in this league. Absolutely this. In one sense, yeah, a season of consolidation, loss in the playoffs or even a top ten finish would be acceptable after the last decade of shite. But it's not a great league and at our best we should be bossing it. Even Orient weren't that hot at ours, although credit to them for turning it round. If we do miss out, I agree it would be a real missed opportunity. Not sure next season's L2 will be as easy. My main worry is that at present we seem to be a lot less than the sum of our parts. "Underachieving" is definitely the right word.
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Post by chadders on Apr 5, 2023 11:12:55 GMT
Definitely a season of underachieving if we don’t go up. I don’t base that on expectation or what money the owner has invested, or the size of our crowds. I base it on the fact that, at our best, we’re better than anyone in this league bar Orient. If we’d been able to rediscover the swagger we had last autumn when we beat Carlisle at home and Charlton in the replay, we’d have one foot in L1 and be planning our summer transfer business by now. You don’t have to be very good to win games in this league. Wonder if there was a game where we lost that autumn swagger for us to be like we are now or just part of the whole season where you will see good, bad and the bang average. Form comes and goes. Madden and Collar were playing out of their skin back then. MSH was putting teams on the back foot with his pace. Perhaps teams approached us differently because of where we were in the table.
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Post by essexboy on Apr 5, 2023 11:35:36 GMT
Nailed-on 1-0 thrashing of Sutton. Madden 93rd minute😘....Come on County!!!
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Post by mat1scfc on Apr 5, 2023 12:24:36 GMT
Sell out!!
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Post by scfc73 on Apr 5, 2023 15:57:16 GMT
After seeing a bit of div.2 football last season i do think if we miss out on the PO it will be a season of underachieving. Definitely a season of underachieving if we don’t go up. I don’t base that on expectation or what money the owner has invested, or the size of our crowds. I base it on the fact that, at our best, we’re better than anyone in this league bar Orient. If we’d been able to rediscover the swagger we had last autumn when we beat Carlisle at home and Charlton in the replay, we’d have one foot in L1 and be planning our summer transfer business by now. You don’t have to be very good to win games in this league. But to win promotion a team usually has to be at their best for the majority of the season, we haven't done that apart from the small period you mentioned where we played with a bit of swagger. We have however managed to still stay in the hunt for promotion or playoffs with 7 games to go. I agree that we haven't played with the style, flair & excitement most of us would like but we can't deny that this group of players have worked hard to have us in the position we're in. If we did go up this season & then don't go up the 1st season in league 1 would that also be considered 'a season of under achievement'? is that where we're at now as a fan base? where we expect promotion every season & anything else is considered a failure? If we were lower mid table with nothing to play for then i'd class that as under achieving but even a play off failure IMO wouldn't be under achieving, a missed opportunity definitely but I'd be confident that we'd learn a lot from this campaign & be stronger for it next season.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Apr 5, 2023 16:01:49 GMT
Definitely a season of underachieving if we don’t go up. I don’t base that on expectation or what money the owner has invested, or the size of our crowds. I base it on the fact that, at our best, we’re better than anyone in this league bar Orient. If we’d been able to rediscover the swagger we had last autumn when we beat Carlisle at home and Charlton in the replay, we’d have one foot in L1 and be planning our summer transfer business by now. You don’t have to be very good to win games in this league. But to win promotion a team usually has to be at their best for the majority of the season, we haven't done that apart from the small period you mentioned where we played with a bit of swagger. We have however managed to still stay in the hunt for promotion or playoffs with 7 games to go. I agree that we haven't played with the style, flair & excitement most of us would like but we can't deny that this group of players have worked hard to have us in the position we're in. If we did go up this season & then don't go up the 1st season in league 1 would that also be considered 'a season of under achievement'? is that where we're at now as a fan base? where we expect promotion every season & anything else is considered a failure? If we were lower mid table with nothing to play for then i'd class that as under achieving but even a play off failure IMO wouldn't be under achieving, a missed opportunity definitely but I'd be confident that we'd learn a lot from this campaign & be stronger for it next season. I think missing out on the playoffs entirely would be underachieving, but not going up wouldn’t necessarily be. I think even the most ardent among the we should be doing back to back promotion crowd (of which I am not a member) would accept it will likely take a couple of years to be challenging at the right end of League One.
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Post by chadders on Apr 5, 2023 16:37:37 GMT
Definitely a season of underachieving if we don’t go up. I don’t base that on expectation or what money the owner has invested, or the size of our crowds. I base it on the fact that, at our best, we’re better than anyone in this league bar Orient. If we’d been able to rediscover the swagger we had last autumn when we beat Carlisle at home and Charlton in the replay, we’d have one foot in L1 and be planning our summer transfer business by now. You don’t have to be very good to win games in this league. . If we did go up this season & then don't go up the 1st season in league 1 would that also be considered 'a season of under achievement'? is that where we're at now as a fan base? where we expect promotion every season & anything else is considered a failure?. We set a standard last autumn when we were playing great football and getting great results. We haven’t lived up to the standards we proved we were capable of back then - that’s the definition of underachieving. Our expectations will change every time we go up a division. Nobody expects promotion every season.
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Post by m14hatter on Apr 5, 2023 16:46:44 GMT
. If we did go up this season & then don't go up the 1st season in league 1 would that also be considered 'a season of under achievement'? is that where we're at now as a fan base? where we expect promotion every season & anything else is considered a failure?. We set a standard last autumn when we were playing great football and getting great results. We haven’t lived up to the standards we proved we were capable of back then - that’s the definition of underachieving. Our expectations will change every time we go up a division. Nobody expects promotion every season. But we have lived up to the standards. If we win on Friday, we’ve been incredibly consistent for 30 games. We’d have taken 20, 20 and 19 points out of the last 30 games and if I’ve read the tables correctly will also have taken more points than any other team in the league in that period. Taking near enough 2pts a game is promotion form in most divisions. If we hadn’t had the slow start we’d be comfortably in the automatic spots and challenging for the title with that form. We might not be playing free flowing football but we’re a very good, consistent side that grinds out results.
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Post by scfc73 on Apr 5, 2023 16:54:51 GMT
. If we did go up this season & then don't go up the 1st season in league 1 would that also be considered 'a season of under achievement'? is that where we're at now as a fan base? where we expect promotion every season & anything else is considered a failure?. We set a standard last autumn when we were playing great football and getting great results. We haven’t lived up to the standards we proved we were capable of back then - that’s the definition of underachieving. Our expectations will change every time we go up a division. Nobody expects promotion every season. Fair play on your last sentence. That's how things should be viewed.
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Post by chadders on Apr 5, 2023 17:05:45 GMT
We set a standard last autumn when we were playing great football and getting great results. We haven’t lived up to the standards we proved we were capable of back then - that’s the definition of underachieving. Our expectations will change every time we go up a division. Nobody expects promotion every season. Fair play on your last sentence. That's how things should be viewed. The other thing to say is that I don’t think a second season at this level will do us any harm. It will allow a couple of players to grow and Challinor to keep learning.
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