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Post by timberwolf on Sept 17, 2024 7:56:56 GMT
Why would Arsenal, Man U or Liverpool sue? Surely it's in their best interest if hobby clubs like city are put to bed. They were the three most successful clubs before this era If city are proved to have cheated then those clubs would surely have a claim for compensation for losses. Then what, strip them of their titles and ask their players to give their medals back. The players have done nothing wrong and neither have their fans. If it hadn,t have been city it would be another club involved for sure.
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Post by desmond on Sept 17, 2024 10:08:24 GMT
If city are proved to have cheated then those clubs would surely have a claim for compensation for losses. Then what, strip them of their titles and ask their players to give their medals back. The players have done nothing wrong and neither have their fans. If it hadn,t have been city it would be another club involved for sure. I have little sympathy for their fans, all the ones i know are pretty much in denial about it.
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Post by vicar on Sept 17, 2024 10:55:20 GMT
If city are proved to have cheated then those clubs would surely have a claim for compensation for losses. Then what, strip them of their titles and ask their players to give their medals back. The players have done nothing wrong and neither have their fans. If it hadn,t have been city it would be another club involved for sure. Not much of a defence that Timbers, imagine standing in court and saying if I hadn't nicked it someone else would have.
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Post by sk8ballboy on Sept 17, 2024 11:22:08 GMT
Lance Armstrong cheated and got stripped. Some of City's management and players knew they were getting paid off the books. Mancini was a UAE ambassador and it wasn't voluntary.
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Post by Bredburyhatter on Sept 17, 2024 17:44:09 GMT
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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 17, 2024 17:47:28 GMT
They could always… I dunno… Just put out a weakened side so they get knocked out of cup competitions early. Nobody’s forcing them to try for the Quintuple.
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Post by hedleyverity on Sept 17, 2024 18:23:35 GMT
You can't have national governments interfering in their country's football organisations. You can have grotesque nation states sport-washing via individual football clubs from another country. I think that's right, anyway. Our government should buy a UAE team, let’s see how they like it
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 17, 2024 20:20:03 GMT
You can't have national governments interfering in their country's football organisations. You can have grotesque nation states sport-washing via individual football clubs from another country. I think that's right, anyway. Our government should buy a UAE team, let’s see how they like it Couldn’t afford it
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Post by Nik on Sept 17, 2024 20:35:37 GMT
I reckon the eventual outcome of this won't be less games, but will be maximum appearance limits within player contracts and larger squads.
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 18, 2024 7:46:11 GMT
Makes you wonder how Flynny managed to play all those games in our promotion season. Did he moan or groan about the workload. I,m sure most of us would love to be tired out playing football at the top level. Feel the wrong people get the chances in life.
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 18, 2024 7:53:03 GMT
Then what, strip them of their titles and ask their players to give their medals back. The players have done nothing wrong and neither have their fans. If it hadn,t have been city it would be another club involved for sure. Not much of a defence that Timbers, imagine standing in court and saying if I hadn't nicked it someone else would have. True, but its nothing their players or fans could have done about it. Problem with city and their fans they are two different sets of them. The old Maine Rd. ones who could wear the scarf their grandfather wore and the new age success jumpers. We could get into the same situation regarding fans once EP is fully developed and we carry on improving on the pitch but not as severe. City like wrexham cannot be the ideal place for older fans to watch unless they all sit with groups of similar fans.
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Post by Nik on Sept 18, 2024 8:03:29 GMT
Makes you wonder how Flynny managed to play all those games in our promotion season. Did he moan or groan about the workload. I,m sure most of us would love to be tired out playing football at the top level. Feel the wrong people get the chances in life. Football now is played at such a higher intensity than it was even in the 90s; players are constantly pushing their bodies as far as they're able to, so when more and more games are being added to that, it takes more of a toll and we see more and more injuries that may not have happened in times gone by.
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Post by desmond on Sept 18, 2024 8:11:11 GMT
Not much of a defence that Timbers, imagine standing in court and saying if I hadn't nicked it someone else would have. True, but its nothing their players or fans could have done about it. Problem with city and their fans they are two different sets of them. The old Maine Rd. ones who could wear the scarf their grandfather wore and the new age success jumpers. We could get into the same situation regarding fans once EP is fully developed and we carry on improving on the pitch but not as severe. City like wrexham cannot be the ideal place for older fans to watch unless they all sit with groups of similar fans. Well, any City player who’s joined in the last couple of years can’t really say they weren’t at least aware of the allegations.
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Post by orkneyhatter on Sept 18, 2024 8:38:37 GMT
Makes you wonder how Flynny managed to play all those games in our promotion season. Did he moan or groan about the workload. I,m sure most of us would love to be tired out playing football at the top level. Feel the wrong people get the chances in life. Football now is played at such a higher intensity than it was even in the 90s; players are constantly pushing their bodies as far as they're able to, so when more and more games are being added to that, it takes more of a toll and we see more and more injuries that may not have happened in times gone by. Agree, however imo many of the "extra" matches are due to extending competitions ie Champions league, Nations league etc. Before you had to win a league or Cup to enter European competition and it was knock out. Now its the top 4-6 clubs here and with the group system probably playing more matches too. Then we've got the expansion with the EFL trophy. All this seems to benefit not the fans that turn up to league matches, but the coffers of UEFA FIFA and the tv companies,all at the expense of more fames for the players. No wonder some managers prioritise certain competitions. When it's more important to maintain Premier league status rather than field a competitive team in a cup competition questions should be asked. Also not sure by expanding the competitions it raises the standard of football. Look at the Bayern result last night, some of the drubbing the U21 sides get in the EFL trophy.
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 18, 2024 8:42:07 GMT
Makes you wonder how Flynny managed to play all those games in our promotion season. Did he moan or groan about the workload. I,m sure most of us would love to be tired out playing football at the top level. Feel the wrong people get the chances in life. Football now is played at such a higher intensity than it was even in the 90s; players are constantly pushing their bodies as far as they're able to, so when more and more games are being added to that, it takes more of a toll and we see more and more injuries that may not have happened in times gone by. We keep being told that because of comparisons between eras. Doubt anybody who played at the top in previous eras would agree especially those who had to play with pain killing injections just to get a competative team on the pitch. Could the bodies of todays players take the kickings players got back then.
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