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Post by suedehead on Dec 17, 2023 22:52:02 GMT
Nobody there yesterday has ever seen us win by such a margin. Just when you think we've seen it all, this happens. Not stopped buzzing about it. And yet, there's this nagging annoyance about something that happened, which perhaps says more about me and my inability to just be happy than anyone else, but here goes anyway. A few obviously recent converts sitting behind us left the ground on 70 minutes. Someone said it's because people kept standing up and they got sick of it. These are the quality of supporters Stott wants us to embrace. The type who weren't interested when we were shit. The type who weren't even interested enough to stay until the end when we won eight f*cking nil. That Athletic article the other week was a brilliant bit of PR for the club but the quote about Stott saying some fans don't want City and United supporters to come and see us, but he thinks we should welcome them. That episode yesterday wasn't the first time longstanding fans who have been everywhere have felt a bit put out by obvious newcomers moaning at them for doing what they've always done. I'm all for new fans, even if it takes them a good few years to feel as passionate as those who have been going all their lives. But there needs to be an understanding from the top that growth and expansion of our support needs to be achieved with the die hards and their culture at the core. Otherwise we risk swapping people who went every week at our worst with people who treat the game like some sort of leisure experience on a par with a trip to the cinema. The club would be much worse off if that happened. Any business should value its most loyal customers above those who are yet to become customers. We need to do the same. But people no matter how hard core should also take into account that the people sat behind them may be unable to stand up due to medical conditions, what would you do to cater for them, a lot of which will be elderly so have probably been going for 50 years They weren’t elderly and clearly hadn’t been going for 50 years. They were on one of their very first trips to EP, obvious from what they were saying and how they were behaving. I know newcomers won’t know this but LT1 is a de facto standing area. Has been for years now. I’m sure you’ll point to something about the ground being all seater and regulations and all that but it’s tens of people that stand, not just one or two. It’s part of the fabric of a match day now, most in LT1 stand.
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Post by someoneelse on Dec 17, 2023 23:01:57 GMT
People were sitting down in front of them for the most part and at no point was I asked to sit when i was standing, nor did I hear them complain about not being able to see. There was a lot of up and down. We scored 8 goals.
Also, there were patches of seats nearby if they felt unable to say anything but still wanted to stick around.
The reality was that on a day when we scored 8, they couldn't be arsed to stick around. It wasn't for them. Fine. It just made me think about the article and Stott quote. Clearly the man is a legend and as the world isn't binary I'm not slagging his mere presence off. Just pointing out why die hards need to be valued above people who have only recently turned up.
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Post by philtheglass on Dec 18, 2023 15:15:39 GMT
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Post by mat1scfc on Dec 18, 2023 15:42:44 GMT
I was surprised to see horsfall there tbh.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Dec 18, 2023 17:39:04 GMT
I bet that Morecambe defender’s never heard this before! *sees self out*
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Post by Duncan McOchin on Dec 18, 2023 19:00:15 GMT
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Post by Nik on Dec 19, 2023 9:59:07 GMT
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Dec 19, 2023 10:01:54 GMT
I’m not surprised. The general consensus among Sutton fans I know was that if they wanted to stay up they needed to change. Shame really
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Post by County Blue on Dec 19, 2023 10:23:58 GMT
I’m not surprised. The general consensus among Sutton fans I know was that if they wanted to stay up they needed to change. Shame really Understandable I suppose, especially with our result, but having been there almost five years and taking them up the year before us, he just might have been given the January window to rescue the situation. Will be in the running for the next NL vacancy you’d think.
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Post by tgttiw on Dec 19, 2023 11:51:36 GMT
I’m not surprised. The general consensus among Sutton fans I know was that if they wanted to stay up they needed to change. Shame really Madness. Why Sutton overactived massively. Whilst I accept they won't stay up losing their side to Wimbledon may have something to do with it. Keep him let him rebuild and you stand the best chance of getting out of nl. I suspect they'll get one of the usual suspects.
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Post by Nik on Dec 19, 2023 11:53:29 GMT
I’m not surprised. The general consensus among Sutton fans I know was that if they wanted to stay up they needed to change. Shame really Madness. Why Sutton overactived massively. Whilst I accept they won't stay up losing their side to Wimbledon may have something to do with it. Keep him let him rebuild and you stand the best chance of getting out of nl. I suspect they'll get one of the usual suspects. I saw elsewhere that they'd won 3 out of the last 32 games, so I can understand why they've acted. It's not form that gives them a chance of survival.
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Post by slomasscfc on Dec 19, 2023 11:59:53 GMT
Probably needed to freshen up with new ideas there, done a cracking job to get club like Sutton to win NL but not many bottom of table teams manager is gonna survive an 8-0 are they, apparently he sat in Cheadle End after game head in his hands crestfallen at what had just happened can't help but feel some sympathy for him to lose his job
Imagine he will get fixed up pretty soon judged on what he has achieved there in his 5 years as a whole on a limited budget
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Post by tgttiw on Dec 19, 2023 12:04:22 GMT
Probably needed to freshen up with new ideas there, done a cracking job to get club like Sutton to win NL but not many bottom of table teams manager is gonna survive an 8-0 are they, apparently he sat in Cheadle End after game head in his hands crestfallen at what had just happened can't help but feel some sympathy for him to lose his job Imagine he will get fixed up pretty soon judged on what he has achieved there in his 5 years as a whole on a limited budget I accept both arguments ironically if he kept Sutton in the playoffs without getting promoted he'll be in a job still. I just wonder if they'll be best keeping him and letting him rebuild. He's the best man for the job.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Dec 19, 2023 13:38:38 GMT
Probably needed to freshen up with new ideas there, done a cracking job to get club like Sutton to win NL but not many bottom of table teams manager is gonna survive an 8-0 are they, apparently he sat in Cheadle End after game head in his hands crestfallen at what had just happened can't help but feel some sympathy for him to lose his job Imagine he will get fixed up pretty soon judged on what he has achieved there in his 5 years as a whole on a limited budget I accept both arguments ironically if he kept Sutton in the playoffs without getting promoted he'll be in a job still. I just wonder if they'll be best keeping him and letting him rebuild. He's the best man for the job. If they’d gone straight back down their first season at this level he’d probably still be in a job as well. Sutton don’t really do sacking managers. I’m not sure they ever have. An example given on their board from 2007 was actually a resignation. It’s a bit of a strange time for them as a club and this reads as them making an attempt to remain a league club. Will be interesting to see if it pays off.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Dec 19, 2023 21:04:03 GMT
We had “five star” and “seventh heaven”, but I didn’t hear “hit for six”. KEIGHREN OUT!
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