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Post by jkb9b on Jan 2, 2024 21:17:23 GMT
A question for the older supporters and the programme collectors....
The voices in my head think there was a page in the old programmes with a list of fixtures being played on the day, each with a letter of the alphabet alongside it. Those letters corresponded with letters on the old scoreboard at the Railway End (the supports are still in situ, I think) and numbers would be hung up on against each letter to show the half time scores.
Can anyone confirm if I'm dreaming or not and, if possible, post a picture of the relevant page from a programme?
Apologies if you see this all over County's socials, I'll be cross posting it all over the show so I can get on with a blog post I'm writing.
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Post by brandnames on Jan 2, 2024 22:31:29 GMT
I can’t be fully certain but that’s how I understood old scoreboards operated for half-time scores (up and down the country?)
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Post by jkb9b on Jan 2, 2024 23:04:13 GMT
So far, so good; I've got a picture of a programme page with the index, the next quest is for a picture of the scoreboard with the letters in place.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Jan 3, 2024 8:51:00 GMT
So far, so good; I've got a picture of a programme page with the index, the next quest is for a picture of the scoreboard with the letters in place. I think I started going (1972) just after this was a thing - the scoreboard was still there, and I think I still remember the letters, but I just don't remember it being used for that purpose. Unless it was and I've forgotten, of course. I think you're correct in that was how it worked, and as brandnames said, I understand it was done that way at most grounds. |
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Post by Henry Pratt on Jan 3, 2024 8:57:56 GMT
So far, so good; I've got a picture of a programme page with the index, the next quest is for a picture of the scoreboard with the letters in place. I think I started going (1972) just after this was a thing - the scoreboard was still there, and I think I still remember the letters, but I just don't remember it being used for that purpose. Unless it was and I've forgotten, of course. I think you're correct in that was how it worked, and as brandnames said, I understand it was done that way at most grounds. This is the oldest I've found via a quick search. The URL claims August 1969, but although it clearly says "scoreboard" you can't make out the letters, sadly. You can still see the old tea hut at the back of the RE though, which is something. (Full res version here: images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/stockport-county-edgeley-park-railway-end-1-august-1969-bw-legendary-football-grounds.jpg) |
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Post by FridoBiggins on Jan 3, 2024 9:24:22 GMT
A question for the older supporters and the programme collectors.... The voices in my head think there was a page in the old programmes with a list of fixtures being played on the day, each with a letter of the alphabet alongside it. Those letters corresponded with letters on the old scoreboard at the Railway End (the supports are still in situ, I think) and numbers would be hung up on against each letter to show the half time scores. Can anyone confirm if I'm dreaming or not and, if possible, post a picture of the relevant page from a programme? Apologies if you see this all over County's socials, I'll be cross posting it all over the show so I can get on with a blog post I'm writing. I'm sure it was a thing although it does seem a very convoluted way of communicating half time scores! I have seen programmes from circa 1970 with the fixtures and letters, some of which have half time scores scribbled on (the queues for Bovril must have been a lot shorter back in the day as you wouldn't stand a chance nowadays!). I've also seen programmes with stickers over the original printed fixtures, presumably to reflect changes to fixtures post-printing. Not sure if the stickers were handed to the programme purchaser or added by the club? |
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Post by timberwolf on Jan 3, 2024 9:29:27 GMT
In the late 50,s huddersfield used to have an electric one at the old leeds road ground and it looked to have been there for years before but the principle of it was the same.
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Post by jkb9b on Jan 3, 2024 11:05:32 GMT
I think I started going (1972) just after this was a thing - the scoreboard was still there, and I think I still remember the letters, but I just don't remember it being used for that purpose. Unless it was and I've forgotten, of course. I think you're correct in that was how it worked, and as brandnames said, I understand it was done that way at most grounds. This is the oldest I've found via a quick search. The URL claims August 1969, but although it clearly says "scoreboard" you can't make out the letters, sadly. You can still see the old tea hut at the back of the RE though, which is something. (Full res version here: images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/stockport-county-edgeley-park-railway-end-1-august-1969-bw-legendary-football-grounds.jpg)Thanks very much Dave, that's a very useful picture for a number of reasons. I remember the tea hut but in my mind's eye there were a lot more barriers on the terrace. |
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Post by Henry Pratt on Jan 3, 2024 11:10:04 GMT
Thanks very much Dave, that's a very useful picture for a number of reasons. I remember the tea hut but in my mind's eye there were a lot more barriers on the terrace. There's also this, which is a fairly famous pic that's done the rounds a fair bit, mainly highlighting the railway sleepers. Sadly, the scoreboard has already changed to an advert - I think this predates the William Hill advert that was there for a good few years, so I'd put this as early 70s? The tea hut's still there, and the surprisingly low wall at the back.  |
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Post by Henry Pratt on Jan 3, 2024 11:17:13 GMT
I also remembered this, which I thought might have a shot of the scoreboard, but the camera's too low down. County 1 v 4 Fulham in 1969-70:
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Post by desmond on Jan 3, 2024 13:40:31 GMT
Thanks very much Dave, that's a very useful picture for a number of reasons. I remember the tea hut but in my mind's eye there were a lot more barriers on the terrace. There's also this, which is a fairly famous pic that's done the rounds a fair bit, mainly highlighting the railway sleepers. Sadly, the scoreboard has already changed to an advert - I think this predates the William Hill advert that was there for a good few years, so I'd put this as early 70s? The tea hut's still there, and the surprisingly low wall at the back. IIRC though there was quite a drop in front of the fence on the ground side. Though in those days there were a few who used to sneak into the ground over that fence. There were a few more who tried to get out that way too as we were so often that bad 😀 |
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Post by FridoBiggins on Jan 3, 2024 13:53:04 GMT
Thanks very much Dave, that's a very useful picture for a number of reasons. I remember the tea hut but in my mind's eye there were a lot more barriers on the terrace. There's also this, which is a fairly famous pic that's done the rounds a fair bit, mainly highlighting the railway sleepers. Sadly, the scoreboard has already changed to an advert - I think this predates the William Hill advert that was there for a good few years, so I'd put this as early 70s? The tea hut's still there, and the surprisingly low wall at the back. Was there also a hut in the corner that you can't see? Possibly selling programmes and the like? Or have I imagined that? |
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Post by desmond on Jan 3, 2024 16:21:47 GMT
There's also this, which is a fairly famous pic that's done the rounds a fair bit, mainly highlighting the railway sleepers. Sadly, the scoreboard has already changed to an advert - I think this predates the William Hill advert that was there for a good few years, so I'd put this as early 70s? The tea hut's still there, and the surprisingly low wall at the back. Was there also a hut in the corner that you can't see? Possibly selling programmes and the like? Or have I imagined that? Don’t remember that but there was a very small shop bolted on to the end of the main stand at that end of the ground (near where there used to be a small standing section on the side) that sold a few scarves etc. Was only a small wooden effort so the stock was put in ahead of a game and removed afterwards. A lady called Dot Stanway used to run it and I’d help out as a then young kid ! |
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Post by Henry Pratt on Jan 3, 2024 16:54:04 GMT
Was there also a hut in the corner that you can't see? Possibly selling programmes and the like? Or have I imagined that? Don’t remember that but there was a very small shop bolted on to the end of the main stand at that end of the ground (near where there used to be a small standing section on the side) that sold a few scarves etc. Was only a small wooden effort so the stock was put in ahead of a game and removed afterwards. A lady called Dot Stanway used to run it and I’d help out as a then young kid ! I've got a feeling (could be wrong), that the tea hut in the picture sold merch for a short time. I do remember the one you mention, but did Dot start out in the one at the back of the RE before it got moved down? |
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Post by Henry Pratt on Jan 3, 2024 16:56:33 GMT
There's also this, which is a fairly famous pic that's done the rounds a fair bit, mainly highlighting the railway sleepers. Sadly, the scoreboard has already changed to an advert - I think this predates the William Hill advert that was there for a good few years, so I'd put this as early 70s? The tea hut's still there, and the surprisingly low wall at the back. IIRC though there was quite a drop in front of the fence on the ground side. Though in those days there were a few who used to sneak into the ground over that fence. There were a few more who tried to get out that way too as we were so often that bad 😀 I think you're right about the drop. Which leads me to... anyone going to talk about the toilet that was down in the valley between the RE and the Pop Side? People were talking the other day about open air bogs. Well never mind Chesterfield, or anywhere else - that was hands down the worst pissoir I've even seen. |
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