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Post by hazelhurst_ant on Mar 5, 2024 12:18:06 GMT
3 points please lads, ffs. Yes and follow up with another win to get some momentum going. Not bothered what the rest do as long as we win. This is exactly it! Keep winning and it doesn't matter what everyone else is doing.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Mar 5, 2024 13:42:41 GMT
Yes and follow up with another win to get some momentum going. Not bothered what the rest do as long as we win. This is exactly it! Keep winning and it doesn't matter what everyone else is doing. When you say “keep” winning…?
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Post by TC on Mar 5, 2024 15:09:41 GMT
Not sure how many appreciate how bad our current form is. Over the last four games we are next to bottom of the form table with two points, scored one and conceded seven. www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-two/form-guide/fourWe need to turn this around sharpish because if we don't we will be lucky to be in a play-off scrap.
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Post by albybeliever on Mar 5, 2024 16:55:56 GMT
On the other hand, this stat blew my mind:
Most goals in first 15 minutes (top 4 tiers; 2023/24):
15: Leeds, MK Dons, Stockport 11: Bolton 10: ARSENAL, Blackburn, Leicester, Millwall, Southampton, Crawley, Crewe, Notts County, Tranmere
So much for me muttering darkly about us never taking our chances while we're on top early in games!
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Post by mat1scfc on Mar 5, 2024 17:12:44 GMT
On the other hand, this stat blew my mind: Most goals in first 15 minutes (top 4 tiers; 2023/24): 15: Leeds, MK Dons, Stockport 11: Bolton 10: ARSENAL, Blackburn, Leicester, Millwall, Southampton, Crawley, Crewe, Notts County, Tranmere So much for me muttering darkly about us never taking our chances while we're on top early in games! This is why I never understand us passing it around the back instead of going at trying to get a goal early. I know it's easier said than done but sometimes it's like we don't even try to get an early goal but you mentioned missed chances, we create alot but imo we miss far too many "big chances" According to fotmob these are the top 3 created/miss big chances in league 2 Big chances 1st Stockport County - 99 2nd Notts County - 94 2rd Swindon town - 85 Big chances missed 1st Gillingham - 56 2nd Stockport County - 54 3rd Wrexham - 52
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Post by albybeliever on Mar 5, 2024 17:53:27 GMT
On the other hand, this stat blew my mind: Most goals in first 15 minutes (top 4 tiers; 2023/24): 15: Leeds, MK Dons, Stockport 11: Bolton 10: ARSENAL, Blackburn, Leicester, Millwall, Southampton, Crawley, Crewe, Notts County, Tranmere So much for me muttering darkly about us never taking our chances while we're on top early in games! This is why I never understand us passing it around the back instead of going at trying to get a goal early. I know it's easier said than done but sometimes it's like we don't even try to get an early goal but you mentioned missed chances, we create alot but imo we miss far too many "big chances" According to fotmob these are the top 3 created/miss big chances in league 2 Big chances 1st Stockport County - 99 2nd Notts County - 94 2rd Swindon town - 85 Big chances missed 1st Gillingham - 56 2nd Stockport County - 54 3rd Wrexham - 52 I mean, the above would suggest that not only do we try to get an early goal, we often succeed. In terms of the big chances stats, the more you create, the more you’re likely to miss, so not too worried about the latter stat. Certainly getting the final execution right more consistently would have helped us in some games this season, but I suspect fans of every club feel the same.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Mar 5, 2024 22:35:38 GMT
Not sure how many appreciate how bad our current form is. Over the last four games we are next to bottom of the form table with two points, scored one and conceded seven. www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-two/form-guide/fourWe need to turn this around sharpish because if we don't we will be lucky to be in a play-off scrap. Add in the previous four games to that, though, and we're eighth in the form table. Shit last four, agreed, but amazing four prior to that - three wins and a draw. We've got to hope the last four is a blip and can be rectified. We should be able to do so, with our squad and returning players. That said, you're right: continue the form of the last four games and we'll end up mid-table. Continue the form of the last eight, however, and we'll probably still make top three. Continue the form of the entire season and we'll be second on goal difference.
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Post by porthatter on Mar 6, 2024 7:45:51 GMT
Not sure how many appreciate how bad our current form is. Over the last four games we are next to bottom of the form table with two points, scored one and conceded seven. www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-two/form-guide/fourWe need to turn this around sharpish because if we don't we will be lucky to be in a play-off scrap. Add in the previous four games to that, though, and we're eighth in the form table. Shit last four, agreed, but amazing four prior to that - three wins and a draw. We've got to hope the last four is a blip and can be rectified. We should be able to do so, with our squad and returning players. That said, you're right: continue the form of the last four games and we'll end up mid-table. Continue the form of the last eight, however, and we'll probably still make top three. Continue the form of the entire season and we'll be second on goal difference. I try not to look too far ahead or dwell on the latest game but it’s difficult to not get sucked in to the emotion of it all. With our strong squad (even with injuries) I sort of assume that the form in the most recent games will not continue much longer, but then again I had assumed that we would get out of the 3 relegation battles we lost over the last 15 years!! I am clearly an eternal optimist.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Mar 6, 2024 9:24:43 GMT
On the other hand, this stat blew my mind: Most goals in first 15 minutes (top 4 tiers; 2023/24): 15: Leeds, MK Dons, Stockport 11: Bolton 10: ARSENAL, Blackburn, Leicester, Millwall, Southampton, Crawley, Crewe, Notts County, Tranmere So much for me muttering darkly about us never taking our chances while we're on top early in games! It was a huge part of our winning run - fast, clinical starts. I looked into (and can't be bothered digging it out of a random match thread) but in something like half of those games we scored in the first 20 mins or so. For some, multiple times. An obvious point but scoring first is so important in football. There was some stat for the Derby that - despite how shit United have been in recent times- they hadn't lost a PL game when leading at HT for 130-odd games. That changed at the weekend of course!
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Post by mat1scfc on Mar 6, 2024 10:05:22 GMT
On the other hand, this stat blew my mind: Most goals in first 15 minutes (top 4 tiers; 2023/24): 15: Leeds, MK Dons, Stockport 11: Bolton 10: ARSENAL, Blackburn, Leicester, Millwall, Southampton, Crawley, Crewe, Notts County, Tranmere So much for me muttering darkly about us never taking our chances while we're on top early in games! It was a huge part of our winning run - fast, clinical starts. I looked into (and can't be bothered digging it out of a random match thread) but in something like half of those games we scored in the first 20 mins or so. For some, multiple times. An obvious point but scoring first is so important in football. There was some stat for the Derby that - despite how shit United have been in recent times- they hadn't lost a PL game when leading at HT for 130-odd games. That changed at the weekend of course! isn't that united stat only at old Trafford?
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Post by suedehead on Mar 6, 2024 10:43:14 GMT
It was a huge part of our winning run - fast, clinical starts. I looked into (and can't be bothered digging it out of a random match thread) but in something like half of those games we scored in the first 20 mins or so. For some, multiple times. An obvious point but scoring first is so important in football. There was some stat for the Derby that - despite how shit United have been in recent times- they hadn't lost a PL game when leading at HT for 130-odd games. That changed at the weekend of course! isn't that united stat only at old Trafford? No. They’ve never lost in the PL at home when leading at half time.
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Post by geordiehatter on Mar 6, 2024 14:06:11 GMT
Akil Wright and Ethan Pye returning could be huge for us. The amount of attacks they start for plus Wright's ability to get forward when needed have been sorely missed, having such a pedestrian and defence-only type back like is a bit part of the reason we've been so poor lately. Akil Wright is probably the most underrated player in our squad, we're a different team when he's in the side, okay he's got a mistake in him but he gets us on the front foot. I agree with that. Same last season whenever we were without him, suddenly we looked so pedestrian and predictable from the back. Seems to be a school of opinion he's short of what we need at the next level. I'm not sure about that- also, the focus now needs to be on valuing the players who can take us there.
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Post by geordiehatter on Mar 6, 2024 14:09:17 GMT
Akil Wright is probably the most underrated player in our squad, we're a different team when he's in the side, okay he's got a mistake in him but he gets us on the front foot. Totally agree. He's a big upgrade on Cass at RCB or RB. To be fair to Cass I don't think he's started at all badly, not when we consider he's come into an injury-hit team struggling for consistent form. Still think he can play an important part for us.
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Post by geordiehatter on Mar 6, 2024 14:12:12 GMT
I think Cass has improved in each of the games he’s played, whilst I agree on Wright’s value Cass could prove to be an astute signing, unfortunately he’s not someone who can bomb up the pitch but he did a lovely cross in the Swindon match, got himself a goal on his debut and got into a good scoring position v Gillingham. So its really Cass or Wright and neither of them are a MSH in that position. The bigger thing with having this week off is a rest for a few who might be playing not fully fit as we do not know. For me its a must win and better the performance the better i,ll feel and rid myself of a feeling we might be blowing it. Neither of them are MSH but then each bring their own strengths. I'm a big fan of our genius from Wales but I do feel sometimes he's held up as this standard/type all our right-backs should aspire to, whereas others maybe less established in our affections have plenty or different to offer.
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Post by geordiehatter on Mar 6, 2024 14:16:26 GMT
We wanted Hutton as the MSH type, losing MSH and Knoyle, and to a lesser extent, Richardson, has been damaging but not insurmountable. It might not be but somehow i feel we are going to have to make the best of the bad position we have got into for the rest of the season. Getting collar, camps and barry back isn,t going to solve this gap and playing evans out wide only makes him look a poor player when he isn,t. Interesting how when Evans has excelled for us it's been in more roving or central roles. From what I recall at Torquay he was very much a wide man. But we've not really seen him dazzle us on the wing, he looks more comfortable affecting the game infield.
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