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Post by Imposter on Jun 29, 2024 19:19:11 GMT
Whilst I'd be happy with 9th I can't say I'd be saying "wow! This is the best ever! I'm so grateful to be 9th". I expect top 10 and would be happy with that, it would represent a decent season. I think we can aim for top 8 and that would be a good season. Maybe we can even push into top 6 and that would be a very good season. And top 3 or 4 would be dreamland. But 9th isn't a "snap your hands off" offer for me - it's towards the lower end of what I expect. I think 9th - 10th is fine with a cup run. This upcoming season in league 1 will be very tough. There's probably 15 clubs who will want atleast play offs. It will be fine yes. But there is nuance in these things, and three is a difference between fine and good, or fine and okay, or fine and snap your hand off. Like I say 9th would be fine and nothing to get concerned with but I certainly wouldn't call it outstandingly fantastic. And I like to hope we could aim for and do a little bit better. But if we don't, no biggie.
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Post by Philcounty on Jun 29, 2024 19:48:11 GMT
Just for context, last year's L2 super computer table had County outside the playoffs and Salford finishing 1st.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jun 29, 2024 23:31:54 GMT
I think 9th - 10th is fine with a cup run. This upcoming season in league 1 will be very tough. There's probably 15 clubs who will want atleast play offs. It will be fine yes. But there is nuance in these things, and three is a difference between fine and good, or fine and okay, or fine and snap your hand off. Like I say 9th would be fine and nothing to get concerned with but I certainly wouldn't call it outstandingly fantastic. And I like to hope we could aim for and do a little bit better. But if we don't, no biggie. I wouldn’t call it outstandingly fantastic either, but I’d still be delighted with a top ten finish and a couple of points off the playoffs. It would be our highest finish at this level since 1997, our highest finish in the pyramid since 2002. At some point we’re going to plateau. We’re going to get to a level where we lose as many if not more than we win. Now we’re back in the third tier I’m not in a rush to get their faster. 2/3 years at this level consistently improving (and giving us time to do the Railway End) would be pretty spot on tbh. Throw in some properly deep cup runs and my mouth is watering. Of course, being the ever contrarian nature of a football fan, that is not to say I don’t want back to back league titles/promotions, a fourth title/promotion in 6 years. I’d love that and pissing all over League One. But in the likely absence of that scenario I’ll still be delighted with continued climbing. This run of improved league finishes every year is outstandingly fantastic.
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Post by Imposter on Jun 30, 2024 2:05:41 GMT
It will be fine yes. But there is nuance in these things, and three is a difference between fine and good, or fine and okay, or fine and snap your hand off. Like I say 9th would be fine and nothing to get concerned with but I certainly wouldn't call it outstandingly fantastic. And I like to hope we could aim for and do a little bit better. But if we don't, no biggie. I wouldn’t call it outstandingly fantastic either, but I’d still be delighted with a top ten finish and a couple of points off the playoffs. It would be our highest finish at this level since 1997, our highest finish in the pyramid since 2002. At some point we’re going to plateau. We’re going to get to a level where we lose as many if not more than we win. Now we’re back in the third tier I’m not in a rush to get their faster. 2/3 years at this level consistently improving (and giving us time to do the Railway End) would be pretty spot on tbh. Throw in some properly deep cup runs and my mouth is watering. Of course, being the ever contrarian nature of a football fan, that is not to say I don’t want back to back league titles/promotions, a fourth title/promotion in 6 years. I’d love that and pissing all over League One. But in the likely absence of that scenario I’ll still be delighted with continued climbing. This run of improved league finishes every year is outstandingly fantastic. I agree with the 2 or 3 years at this level thing. I've never disagreed with it. I just think we start by posting a slightly higher first finish. 6th-8th in the first season. 3rd-5th in the second season. Automatics in the third season. If we start off finishing 9th, 10th, 11th this season it's going to take a hell of a lot to then move to promotion in a year or two. Also based on the plans we have, the foundations we seem to be setting, and one or two things both Mark and Simon have said, I'm not 100% convinced the Championship is where we'll plateau. I think we might have a good 5, 6, 7, 8 seasons left before we plateau (that includes the 24-25 season).
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Post by voodooray on Jun 30, 2024 6:27:24 GMT
9th would be decent.
I guess.
Would I take it? No. Think we have the chance & potential to go higher. And we should aim high. If it doesn't pan out, fair enough.
Would love a cup run.
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Post by timberwolf on Jun 30, 2024 7:30:52 GMT
9th would be decent. I guess. Would I take it? No. Think we have the chance & potential to go higher. And we should aim high. If it doesn't pan out, fair enough. Would love a cup run. I,d take 9th or 10th now on the back of good runs in the cups and even the trophy. That way we can get some discussion on her of how these runs knackered our PO chances. Feel a few will not be happy without the minimum of the PO but cup runs might keep their interest going and i,d hate to see a situation of old County v new County falling out at games.
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Post by scfc73 on Jun 30, 2024 10:09:07 GMT
At the end of last season & after listening to Mark Stott's 'top 10 budget' interview I was thinking I'd be content with a season bobbing around the fringes of the play offs & that may well be the case but seeing the players we've signed so far I really believe we're not intent on hanging around in league 1 for too long.
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Post by suedehead on Jun 30, 2024 10:44:15 GMT
At the end of last season & after listening to Mark Stott's 'top 10 budget' interview I was thinking I'd be content with a season bobbing around the fringes of the play offs & that may well be the case but seeing the players we've signed so far I really believe we're not intent on hanging around in league 1 for too long. Exactly that. Anyone who thinks we’re not going for it next season isn’t paying attention. We’re absolutely going for play offs.
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Post by timberwolf on Jun 30, 2024 10:54:53 GMT
At the end of last season & after listening to Mark Stott's 'top 10 budget' interview I was thinking I'd be content with a season bobbing around the fringes of the play offs & that may well be the case but seeing the players we've signed so far I really believe we're not intent on hanging around in league 1 for too long. Exactly that. Anyone who thinks we’re not going for it next season isn’t paying attention. We’re absolutely going for play offs. If us and others do not have that in mind at the outset and just settle for mid table safety there is a better chance of them being part of a battle at the other end of the table. Even the likes of morecambe and accrington had good first seasons after promotion without our recruitment but then tailed off in future seasons.
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Post by porthatter on Jun 30, 2024 11:29:37 GMT
Irrespective of the expectations we each have as individuals, we have a role to play by being positively supportive of the team. The trouble with having higher expectations is that some (especially those that have only seen us progress over the last 10 years) could become quickly dissatisfied and show their feelings in a negative way. This can be quite destructive, and over the years we’ve seen how things can get really ‘uncomfortable’ on match days. I don’t think I’ve ever seen examples of getting on the backs of players improving their performances so I for one will be trying to be optimistic and encouraging rather than expectant and entitled.
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Post by timberwolf on Jun 30, 2024 11:48:02 GMT
Irrespective of the expectations we each have as individuals, we have a role to play by being positively supportive of the team. The trouble with having higher expectations is that some (especially those that have only seen us progress over the last 10 years) could become quickly dissatisfied and show their feelings in a negative way. This can be quite destructive, and over the years we’ve seen how things can get really ‘uncomfortable’ on match days. I don’t think I’ve ever seen examples of getting on the backs of players improving their performances so I for one will be trying to be optimistic and encouraging rather than expectant and entitled. Totally agree. I have always said that there cannot be many better places than EP to play football in the good times but not many worse when things are going badly. If things are not going the way of the team or individuals then its best to shut our gobs till the time it goes right.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jun 30, 2024 12:59:22 GMT
At the end of last season & after listening to Mark Stott's 'top 10 budget' interview I was thinking I'd be content with a season bobbing around the fringes of the play offs & that may well be the case but seeing the players we've signed so far I really believe we're not intent on hanging around in league 1 for too long. Exactly that. Anyone who thinks we’re not going for it next season isn’t paying attention. We’re absolutely going for play offs. I can believe we’re going for it, that doesn’t mean we won’t finish 2 points outside of it, which is what the posted table were referring to had us on.
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Post by gatleyhatter on Jul 1, 2024 6:05:43 GMT
Season starts next month!
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 1, 2024 7:24:54 GMT
Season starts next month! At least thats positive to make it feel a shorter time than it actually is. Its always been a toss up between june and july for which feels the longest month since i stopped having a july holiday or staycation as its now called.
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Post by vicar on Jul 1, 2024 7:36:41 GMT
Irrespective of the expectations we each have as individuals, we have a role to play by being positively supportive of the team. The trouble with having higher expectations is that some (especially those that have only seen us progress over the last 10 years) could become quickly dissatisfied and show their feelings in a negative way. This can be quite destructive, and over the years we’ve seen how things can get really ‘uncomfortable’ on match days. I don’t think I’ve ever seen examples of getting on the backs of players improving their performances so I for one will be trying to be optimistic and encouraging rather than expectant and entitled. I've always got behind the team even when they're clearly rubbish, moaning and groaning just makes everything worse and has a knock on effect, I think we've been good supporters over the years but the new fans only know success.
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