Mozzer
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Post by Mozzer on Jul 1, 2024 7:40:12 GMT
Irrespective of the expectations we each have as individuals, we have a role to play by being positively supportive of the team. The trouble with having higher expectations is that some (especially those that have only seen us progress over the last 10 years) could become quickly dissatisfied and show their feelings in a negative way. This can be quite destructive, and over the years we’ve seen how things can get really ‘uncomfortable’ on match days. I don’t think I’ve ever seen examples of getting on the backs of players improving their performances so I for one will be trying to be optimistic and encouraging rather than expectant and entitled. I've always got behind the team even when they're clearly rubbish, moaning and groaning just makes everything worse and has a knock on effect, I think we've been good supporters over the years but the new fans only know success. I think moaning and groaning after the game, if we've been crap, is entirely reasonable. Getting on players' backs when we're playing is counter-productive, as vicar says.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Jul 1, 2024 13:44:08 GMT
Birmingham champions? I thought they were still a basket case? Yeah, this. Why does everyone think Birmingham will be one of the teams to beat? I realise this is the droppings of an, ahem, "super"computer, but I've seen them predicted for success in quite a few other places. I've not followed them massively closely, but they were deservedly relegated last season, and as you say, seem a bit of a basket case. Fair enough if they've stabilised and/or recruited well, but if I were them I'd be more worried about trying to get mid-table as a first target. Also, we need to be a bit more ambitious. As I keep saying, we pissed the league below. Playoffs at minimum for me. Not going to go off on one if we don't get there, but if we don't it'd be disappointing. We should be going for the title.
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 2, 2024 8:00:27 GMT
Birmingham champions? I thought they were still a basket case? Yeah, this. Why does everyone think Birmingham will be one of the teams to beat? I realise this is the droppings of an, ahem, "super"computer, but I've seen them predicted for success in quite a few other places. I've not followed them massively closely, but they were deservedly relegated last season, and as you say, seem a bit of a basket case. Fair enough if they've stabilised and/or recruited well, but if I were them I'd be more worried about trying to get mid-table as a first target. Also, we need to be a bit more ambitious. As I keep saying, we pissed the league below. Playoffs at minimum for me. Not going to go off on one if we don't get there, but if we don't it'd be disappointing. We should be going for the title. Its just their name and a larger number of supporters than some of the others. Nothing about the squad of players they have or the financial position they are in. Bit like us when we dropped to the NLN. Everyone but us expected going straight back up for County.
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Post by atmosphere on Jul 2, 2024 8:11:54 GMT
Birmingham are in a very strong financial position though, their American owner is loaded and they will drop £2 million plus on players over he window, perhaps more.
Not a guarentee of success but they're not a basket case.
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Post by m14hatter on Jul 2, 2024 8:58:38 GMT
Birmingham are in a very strong financial position though, their American owner is loaded and they will drop £2 million plus on players over he window, perhaps more. Not a guarentee of success but they're not a basket case. Looks like they’ve beaten Hudds to the signing of Alfie May, who is prolific at this level. Suspect they’ll make quite a few similar statement signings as well.
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 2, 2024 9:16:23 GMT
Birmingham are in a very strong financial position though, their American owner is loaded and they will drop £2 million plus on players over he window, perhaps more. Not a guarentee of success but they're not a basket case. Looks like they’ve beaten Hudds to the signing of Alfie May, who is prolific at this level. Suspect they’ll make quite a few similar statement signings as well. Sometimes though teams like birmingham and huddersfield splash the cash on players with a name rather than taking a punt on the type of player we sign. Its a case of having money and only use it when you have to and not play a lifelike computer game with a club.
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Post by scfc73 on Jul 2, 2024 12:10:02 GMT
I'm not buying this Birmingham straight back up as champions either. irrespective of their wealth or size. Plenty of examples over the years of big clubs coming down to this level & getting stuck for a while. They've got an unproven manager & they'll be seen as a scalp for a lot of other sides who may raise their game a percentage or two when playing them. Also the sort of club where if things don't go to plan & they don't appear to be storming the league by Xmas I can see it getting quite toxic. Of course they should be up there challenging, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it doesn't pan out like that.
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 3, 2024 7:58:51 GMT
I'm not buying this Birmingham straight back up as champions either. irrespective of their wealth or size. Plenty of examples over the years of big clubs coming down to this level & getting stuck for a while. They've got an unproven manager & they'll be seen as a scalp for a lot of other sides who may raise their game a percentage or two when playing them. Also the sort of club where if things don't go to plan & they don't appear to be storming the league by Xmas I can see it getting quite toxic. Of course they should be up there challenging, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it doesn't pan out like that. Feel they,ll need to be a lot better and not just better than clubs like us and peterborough need to be to secure promotion. They,ll be the side to beat where fans and possibly the players will be more up for the fixture than others especially the ones whose fans do not travel in numbers and the atmosphere might be down due to that.
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Post by suedehead on Jul 3, 2024 8:19:51 GMT
I'm not buying this Birmingham straight back up as champions either. irrespective of their wealth or size. Plenty of examples over the years of big clubs coming down to this level & getting stuck for a while. They've got an unproven manager & they'll be seen as a scalp for a lot of other sides who may raise their game a percentage or two when playing them. Also the sort of club where if things don't go to plan & they don't appear to be storming the league by Xmas I can see it getting quite toxic. Of course they should be up there challenging, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it doesn't pan out like that. Completely agree. I know the performance of other clubs at this level doesn't impact Birmingham's performance but there's plenty of stories of big name teams dropping to L1 and taking a few years to get back out; Leeds, Southampton, Forest, Sunderland, Ipswich, Derby all took a few seasons. There's the counter than Norwich, Blackburn, Wolves and Leicester went straight back up, but even then you're looking (at best) a big club going back up 40/50% of the time. I wouldn't be going backing Birmingham to go back up at all.
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Post by ancienthatter on Jul 3, 2024 8:20:24 GMT
Technically and athletically we’ve applied the power boost this summer. I’m optimistic we can compete with anybody.. hopefully consistently enough to reach the playoffs.
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Post by scfc73 on Jul 3, 2024 9:05:26 GMT
Technically and athletically we’ve applied the power boost this summer. I’m optimistic we can compete with anybody.. hopefully consistently enough to reach the playoffs. My optimism has certainly been boosted by the signings we've made. Big key for me next season is not suffering an injury list like last season. Players are always going to get knocks throughout a season but last season felt like we continuously had a significant chunk of our squad missing, it never felt like we had a full deck which makes the achievement of finishing 1st even greater IMO. A couple of our signings have had recent injury problems which is a slight concern but I'm pretty sure the club were satisfied with the medicals & all have a clean bill of health & are raring to go.
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 3, 2024 9:55:28 GMT
Technically and athletically we’ve applied the power boost this summer. I’m optimistic we can compete with anybody.. hopefully consistently enough to reach the playoffs. My optimism has certainly been boosted by the signings we've made. Big key for me next season is not suffering an injury list like last season. Players are always going to get knocks throughout a season but last season felt like we continuously had a significant chunk of our squad missing, it never felt like we had a full deck which makes the achievement of finishing 1st even greater IMO. A couple of our signings have had recent injury problems which is a slight concern but I'm pretty sure the club were satisfied with the medicals & all have a clean bill of health & are raring to go. Having a strong squad where the team does not pick itself is so important nowadays where injuries across the game seem to be on the increase. Actually its getting to the point that there are fewer and fewer players you can sign now without recent injury problems. One thing now is there are less players having careers finished by them.
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dk250
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Post by dk250 on Jul 3, 2024 10:08:50 GMT
Today is supposed to be the day sky and the efl confirm any changes up until the end of September for tv games
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Post by Nik on Jul 3, 2024 12:00:42 GMT
Saturday at 19:45 for Barnsley seems unnecessary
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Post by Philcounty on Jul 3, 2024 12:00:45 GMT
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