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Post by vicar on Aug 12, 2024 11:07:06 GMT
there will need to be segregation even though its a separate stand They don't need an entire block's worth of segregation. They could have given us another 300 or so and still had room for a decent barrier. I suspect the Lancs constabulary may have put the skids on them giving us any more than we have. We'll be seen as quite small fry by the local plod when you consider the teams to have visited Blackpool in recent years, they won't be panicking over our arrival.
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Post by sidcup on Aug 12, 2024 11:19:08 GMT
They don't need an entire block's worth of segregation. They could have given us another 300 or so and still had room for a decent barrier. I suspect the Lancs constabulary may have put the skids on them giving us any more than we have. We'll be seen as quite small fry by the local plod when you consider the teams to have visited Blackpool in recent years, they won't be panicking over our arrival. I hope it's not complacency on their part. Don't want to be this season's Carlisle (who were apparently the reason Blackpool capped away allocation at 1,800 for the remainder of last season). Of course, that's not the only reason I don't want us to be this season's Carlisle!
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Post by sidcup on Aug 12, 2024 11:22:32 GMT
True, but we do regularly sell out the home areas of the ground - it's not as if we have swathes of unused space for them. I think it was alluded to in the fans forum that we may give larger allocations to the bigger teams & I presume that will entail giving them the railway end? I think that's the right thing to do. You're right with the fact we're selling out the majority of the ground now but the railway end is rarely at full capacity until later in the season when we've been chasing promotion. It's a terrible stand to be in through the winter months & not somewhere any home fan would choose to go as a priority over the other three stands. It's basically an overspill stand for people who can't get tickets elsewhere. Yes, I saw that was mentioned. Clubs that will bring a large following but we will struggle to sell home tickets? I can't think of many to be honest. Even if we're having a stinker of a season I suspect we will still sell out the RE for Brum's visit on NYD.
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 12, 2024 11:22:48 GMT
I think it was alluded to in the fans forum that we may give larger allocations to the bigger teams & I presume that will entail giving them the railway end? I think that's the right thing to do. You're right with the fact we're selling out the majority of the ground now but the railway end is rarely at full capacity until later in the season when we've been chasing promotion. It's a terrible stand to be in through the winter months & not somewhere any home fan would choose to go as a priority over the other three stands. It's basically an overspill stand for people who can't get tickets elsewhere. It was; I asked the question with Blackpool in mind, as we're getting nearly 4k in tickets and on current form would be giving them the bare minimum in return. I was concerned that us giving what we had to give and nothing more would then have an impact later down the line where clubs with bigger stadiums will tell us where to go when we want bigger allocations and essentially cut their noses off to spite their faces. I'm all for us making every available ticket open to home fans but I reckon it has the potential to bite us in the arse along the line somewhere, although Tom Mahon did say that hasn't happened as of yet. Honestly i cannot imagine any club losing potential revenue to do a tit for tat because of our low number of tickets available for away fans. Its not as if we are doing this on purpose as we are filling the place with our own. Opposition teams know this for sure before this season started so cannot complain of us taking the piss.
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 12, 2024 11:27:06 GMT
They don't need an entire block's worth of segregation. They could have given us another 300 or so and still had room for a decent barrier. I suspect the Lancs constabulary may have put the skids on them giving us any more than we have. We'll be seen as quite small fry by the local plod when you consider the teams to have visited Blackpool in recent years, they won't be panicking over our arrival. One thing is they,ll be used to large away crowds coming where for some it could be there one and only away game of the season. Its not like some little town in the sticks back in the NLN days when the police expected only a half full mini bus before County came to town with their rape and pillaging of the local populace.
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Post by Nik on Aug 12, 2024 11:46:51 GMT
It was; I asked the question with Blackpool in mind, as we're getting nearly 4k in tickets and on current form would be giving them the bare minimum in return. I was concerned that us giving what we had to give and nothing more would then have an impact later down the line where clubs with bigger stadiums will tell us where to go when we want bigger allocations and essentially cut their noses off to spite their faces. I'm all for us making every available ticket open to home fans but I reckon it has the potential to bite us in the arse along the line somewhere, although Tom Mahon did say that hasn't happened as of yet. Honestly i cannot imagine any club losing potential revenue to do a tit for tat because of our low number of tickets available for away fans. Its not as if we are doing this on purpose as we are filling the place with our own. Opposition teams know this for sure before this season started so cannot complain of us taking the piss. Not necessarily related to it being tit-for-tat, but we saw Salford turn down revenue in the playoff semi at their place and give us the absolute bare minimum when we could have sold the place out ourselves, when they didn't even sell out their home tickets. Again, I understand the differing circumstances there, but clubs may not be adverse to doing it, particularly if they get a lot of backlash from their own fans for the low numbers of away tickets available.
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Post by chadders on Aug 12, 2024 11:57:36 GMT
We'll be seen as quite small fry by the local plod when you consider the teams to have visited Blackpool in recent years, they won't be panicking over our arrival. One thing is they,ll be used to large away crowds coming where for some it could be there one and only away game of the season. Its not like some little town in the sticks back in the NLN days when the police expected only a half full mini bus before County came to town with their rape and pillaging of the local populace. Is it possible to go pillaging in Rushall?
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 12, 2024 12:02:06 GMT
I had a quick scan of their Board and it's very negative. The criticisms make it sound like Ruskball (see below). I'm sure a lot of it is reactionary to a shock opening day loss, but if we grab the first goal Saturday we could feed off that and any discontent in the stands - despite our injuries.
"Stockport County .. Pacy, attacking, direct side ... hoist the white flag now!"
"We seem to play in a way that keeps possession but often falls down after so manly passes and we don't get the final part in so don't create or score many, infact the strikers are not in the game."
"Critchley is wedded to a possession based game; which was clearly his brief at Liverpool. This is is fine when Klopp wants you to bring on the next generation of young players who can take their places in a mobile,hugely talented squad of top internationals that shift the ball quickly and seamlessly. It's another thing entirely trying to apply these principles to playing in this division where endeavour and tempo will win out more often than not. I am afraid we are too often predictable and pedestrian in our approach play and just so easy to defend against. Critchley won't change, because quite simply, he can't. Does he know football? Of course he does. Can he manage to any great effect at this level? Not for me. I am sorry to say. It is a bad fit and always has been."
"Hoof ball has been added to backwards and sideways, but the hapless back 3 remains."
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Post by sidcup on Aug 12, 2024 12:09:04 GMT
I had a quick scan of their Board and it's very negative. The criticisms make it sound like Ruskball (see below). I'm sure a lot of it is reactionary to a shock opening day loss, but if we grab the first goal Saturday we could feed off that and any discontent in the stands - despite our injuries. "Stockport County .. Pacy, attacking, direct side ... hoist the white flag now!" "We seem to play in a way that keeps possession but often falls down after so manly passes and we don't get the final part in so don't create or score many, infact the strikers are not in the game." "Critchley is wedded to a possession based game; which was clearly his brief at Liverpool. This is is fine when Klopp wants you to bring on the next generation of young players who can take their places in a mobile,hugely talented squad of top internationals that shift the ball quickly and seamlessly. It's another thing entirely trying to apply these principles to playing in this division where endeavour and tempo will win out more often than not. I am afraid we are too often predictable and pedestrian in our approach play and just so easy to defend against. Critchley won't change, because quite simply, he can't. Does he know football? Of course he does. Can he manage to any great effect at this level? Not for me. I am sorry to say. It is a bad fit and always has been." "Hoof ball has been added to backwards and sideways, but the hapless back 3 remains." I love it when we play against a hapless back 3. Shades of Notts...
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Post by vicar on Aug 12, 2024 12:14:50 GMT
I had a quick scan of their Board and it's very negative. The criticisms make it sound like Ruskball (see below). I'm sure a lot of it is reactionary to a shock opening day loss, but if we grab the first goal Saturday we could feed off that and any discontent in the stands - despite our injuries. "Stockport County .. Pacy, attacking, direct side ... hoist the white flag now!" "We seem to play in a way that keeps possession but often falls down after so manly passes and we don't get the final part in so don't create or score many, infact the strikers are not in the game." "Critchley is wedded to a possession based game; which was clearly his brief at Liverpool. This is is fine when Klopp wants you to bring on the next generation of young players who can take their places in a mobile,hugely talented squad of top internationals that shift the ball quickly and seamlessly. It's another thing entirely trying to apply these principles to playing in this division where endeavour and tempo will win out more often than not. I am afraid we are too often predictable and pedestrian in our approach play and just so easy to defend against. Critchley won't change, because quite simply, he can't. Does he know football? Of course he does. Can he manage to any great effect at this level? Not for me. I am sorry to say. It is a bad fit and always has been." "Hoof ball has been added to backwards and sideways, but the hapless back 3 remains." I love it when we play against a hapless back 3. Shades of Notts... I like the sound of their hapless back three, Husband in particular appears to be quite hapless according to their forum.
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Post by wnm on Aug 12, 2024 12:15:45 GMT
I had a quick scan of their Board and it's very negative. The criticisms make it sound like Ruskball (see below). I'm sure a lot of it is reactionary to a shock opening day loss, but if we grab the first goal Saturday we could feed off that and any discontent in the stands - despite our injuries. "Stockport County .. Pacy, attacking, direct side ... hoist the white flag now!" "We seem to play in a way that keeps possession but often falls down after so manly passes and we don't get the final part in so don't create or score many, infact the strikers are not in the game." "Critchley is wedded to a possession based game; which was clearly his brief at Liverpool. This is is fine when Klopp wants you to bring on the next generation of young players who can take their places in a mobile,hugely talented squad of top internationals that shift the ball quickly and seamlessly. It's another thing entirely trying to apply these principles to playing in this division where endeavour and tempo will win out more often than not. I am afraid we are too often predictable and pedestrian in our approach play and just so easy to defend against. Critchley won't change, because quite simply, he can't. Does he know football? Of course he does. Can he manage to any great effect at this level? Not for me. I am sorry to say. It is a bad fit and always has been." "Hoof ball has been added to backwards and sideways, but the hapless back 3 remains." I love it when we play against a hapless back 3. Shades of Notts... Preston fans also “never want to see wing backs again”
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Post by countyingermany on Aug 12, 2024 12:18:24 GMT
I think it was alluded to in the fans forum that we may give larger allocations to the bigger teams & I presume that will entail giving them the railway end? I think that's the right thing to do. You're right with the fact we're selling out the majority of the ground now but the railway end is rarely at full capacity until later in the season when we've been chasing promotion. It's a terrible stand to be in through the winter months & not somewhere any home fan would choose to go as a priority over the other three stands. It's basically an overspill stand for people who can't get tickets elsewhere. Yes, I saw that was mentioned. Clubs that will bring a large following but we will struggle to sell home tickets? I can't think of many to be honest. Even if we're having a stinker of a season I suspect we will still sell out the RE for Brum's visit on NYD. You'd hope the club are generous enough with allocations so we don't get stung in the return fixture tit for tat
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Post by sidcup on Aug 12, 2024 12:58:43 GMT
Yes, I saw that was mentioned. Clubs that will bring a large following but we will struggle to sell home tickets? I can't think of many to be honest. Even if we're having a stinker of a season I suspect we will still sell out the RE for Brum's visit on NYD. You'd hope the club are generous enough with allocations so we don't get stung in the return fixture tit for tat I'd hope the club, when faced with the choice of a sold out Railway End full of County fans or one full of away fans, would opt for the former. County fans at both ends of the pitch and more tickets for people who have a chance of becoming regular or semi-regular attendees at EP, rather than once a season when their club is playing away there. Obviously, in situations where the away side will definitely sell out and we would struggle to shift tickets to home fans in the RE, I'd be more inclined to allocate the lot to the visitors (but only give them one block of the Pop) as per the discussion at the FF. To be honest I can't envisage too many of these - if depends how much of a drop in attendance we suffer if / when our form dips. I don't see many clubs at this level "doing a Salford" and giving us a paltry allocation out of spite. I don't mind admitting I was wrong if it does come to pass! We will see. I'm not counting things like Bolton only giving us the upper tier and Wrexham restricting us to the usual 1,100 or so. Those things are going to happen regardless of how many seats we allocate to away fans.
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Post by nelly on Aug 12, 2024 13:08:11 GMT
I love it when we play against a hapless back 3. Shades of Notts... Preston fans also “never want to see wing backs again” Back 4 every day of the week for me. Back 5 is a waste of a forward position.
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Post by desmond on Aug 12, 2024 13:13:53 GMT
You'd hope the club are generous enough with allocations so we don't get stung in the return fixture tit for tat I'd hope the club, when faced with the choice of a sold out Railway End full of County fans or one full of away fans, would opt for the former. County fans at both ends of the pitch and more tickets for people who have a chance of becoming regular or semi-regular attendees at EP, rather than once a season when their club is playing away there. Obviously, in situations where the away side will definitely sell out and we would struggle to shift tickets to home fans in the RE, I'd be more inclined to allocate the lot to the visitors (but only give them one block of the Pop) as per the discussion at the FF. To be honest I can't envisage too many of these - if depends how much of a drop in attendance we suffer if / when our form dips. I don't see many clubs at this level "doing a Salford" and giving us a paltry allocation out of spite. I don't mind admitting I was wrong if it does come to pass! We will see. I'm not counting things like Bolton only giving us the upper tier and Wrexham restricting us to the usual 1,100 or so. They are going to happen regardless of how many seats we allocate to away fans. Would t surprise me to see us give Birmingham the RE, we could sell it out ourselves it if we hold it back in an initial allocation the. We’d need to give them 2 blocks of the popside as a minimum allocation. If we then decide at a later date to give them the RE the. They get an even bigger allocation than is necessary. May depend on how many home fans use the RE when open in games up to that point.
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