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Post by suedehead on Aug 17, 2024 21:51:48 GMT
I'd say we were always going to be much better than alright. As I and others (mainly suedehead) have banged on about, we pissed the league below. We then strengthened the squad significantly and the cherry on the cake was a player who's going to have a career in the Prem. We've got one of the strongest squads in the league when they're all fit. The only spanner in the works was the injury situation. It seems as though we may be able to tiptoe past it - once we do, we are so going to kick on. Ours odds on promotion were ridiculous. The fact that no pundits tipped us was equally ridiculous. Meh, more fool them. We're going to have a real go at this league with one of the strongest squads. We're going up again. Mark it. For me that's getting very carried away. But, hey, people see these things differently (for me we didn't piss the league last year and two games tells you very little) and you do you. Just so long as it's not all doom and gloom when we lose a game or go through a slump or, God forbid, finish midtable. My experience on here, generalising somewhat, is that's the same people who think we're world beaters that will then call for DC to go after a bad start or period. We did piss the league. Absolutely nothing to worry about in L1. Not just on the past week, based on the last few years when we’ve played supposedly decent L1 teams plus the squad we have. We’ll finish top 6 this year, no bother. I’m with Henry.
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Post by David Schofield on Aug 17, 2024 21:53:35 GMT
Well that was a bit good wannit..? ⚽️💙
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Post by vicar on Aug 17, 2024 22:04:58 GMT
Well that was a bit good wannit..? ⚽️💙 We must be a nightmare to play against "don't let em get it out to Barry on the left or Diamond on the right and whatever you do stop em getting it to Wootton or Olaofe down the middle" this is an exciting team.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Aug 17, 2024 22:09:57 GMT
For me that's getting very carried away. But, hey, people see these things differently (for me we didn't piss the league last year and two games tells you very little) and you do you. Just so long as it's not all doom and gloom when we lose a game or go through a slump or, God forbid, finish midtable. My experience on here, generalising somewhat, is that's the same people who think we're world beaters that will then call for DC to go after a bad start or period. We did piss the league. Absolutely nothing to worry about in L1. Not just on the past week, based on the last few years when we’ve played supposedly decent L1 teams plus the squad we have. We’ll finish top 6 this year, no bother. I’m with Henry. I still think we'll just fall short of the playoffs, a point or two, maybe GD, though ask again in 10 games and I might revise that up. -Agree 100% we have nothing to worry about. I have Cambridge to go down and Blackpool to finish mid table and have seen nothing to change my mind. We'll be well clear of both. Am really enjoying fans of other clubs underestimating us. Cambridge and Blackpool fans saying "we should be beating the likes of Stockport". Love flying under the radar. Wootton off to a flyer as well. Been my MOTM both league games so far.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Aug 17, 2024 22:13:54 GMT
Well that was a bit good wannit..? ⚽️💙 We must be a nightmare to play against "don't let em get it out to Barry on the left or Diamond on the right and whatever you do stop em getting it to Wootton or Olaofe down the middle" this is an exciting team. Shout out to Collar as well who is playing almost as another centre forward at the moment.
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Post by advent on Aug 17, 2024 22:25:55 GMT
We must be a nightmare to play against "don't let em get it out to Barry on the left or Diamond on the right and whatever you do stop em getting it to Wootton or Olaofe down the middle" this is an exciting team. Shout out to Collar as well who is playing almost as another centre forward at the moment. collar has stepped it up more than anyone for me at this level so far, he's been a really strong player for us in the two games and looks the part and more for league 1. The challenge is keeping him injury free.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 17, 2024 22:33:31 GMT
We must be a nightmare to play against "don't let em get it out to Barry on the left or Diamond on the right and whatever you do stop em getting it to Wootton or Olaofe down the middle" this is an exciting team. Shout out to Collar as well who is playing almost as another centre forward at the moment. He's not though. It's more the way we press when 3-4-1-2 with Collar often pushing down the middle when the forwards split. When we have the ball he's deeper unless he makes one of his trademark breaks from midfield. Thought he showed his usual energy today but needed a bit more output on the ball where others took their game up a level. Not to say it wasn't a good performance by him though and he was excellent Saturday.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 17, 2024 22:37:45 GMT
We did piss the league. Absolutely nothing to worry about in L1. Not just on the past week, based on the last few years when we’ve played supposedly decent L1 teams plus the squad we have. We’ll finish top 6 this year, no bother. I’m with Henry. I still think we'll just fall short of the playoffs, a point or two, maybe GD, though ask again in 10 games and I might revise that up. -Agree 100% we have nothing to worry about. I have Cambridge to go down and Blackpool to finish mid table and have seen nothing to change my mind. We'll be well clear of both. Am really enjoying fans of other clubs underestimating us. Cambridge and Blackpool fans saying "we should be beating the likes of Stockport". Love flying under the radar. Wootton off to a flyer as well. Been my MOTM both league games so far. I do like that stigma / the expectation as a newly promoted side you should be happy with just staying up. Hopefully we can turn a few more fans against their team with shocks.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Aug 17, 2024 22:40:10 GMT
Shout out to Collar as well who is playing almost as another centre forward at the moment. He's not though. It's more the way we press when 3-4-1-2 with Collar often pushing down the middle when the forwards split. When we have the ball he's deeper unless he makes one of his trademark breaks from midfield. Thought he showed his usual energy today but needed a bit more output on the ball where others took their game up a level. Not to say it wasn't a good performance by him though and he was excellent Saturday. That's why I said "almost". There were times in possession (in both league games) when we have Barry down the left, Diamond on the right, and Wootton and Collar through the middle as a four. We're not lining up like that but we are periodically playing like that, which is why I said "almost". I once again find myself having to repeat that we are incredibly fluid throughout games and phases of play. He's playing as blend of what I think of as a "number 10" from two different periods of my football supporting life. He's lining up as an attacking midfielder and that's ostensibly what he is (the modern number 10) but in attack he is (at times) the second striker alongside Wootton (what I thought of as a number 10 in the 90s and early 00s). He also tends to press in the forward line when we're defending in the opposition half.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 17, 2024 22:40:53 GMT
For me that's getting very carried away. But, hey, people see these things differently (for me we didn't piss the league last year and two games tells you very little) and you do you. Just so long as it's not all doom and gloom when we lose a game or go through a slump or, God forbid, finish midtable. My experience on here, generalising somewhat, is that's the same people who think we're world beaters that will then call for DC to go after a bad start or period. We did piss the league. Absolutely nothing to worry about in L1. Not just on the past week, based on the last few years when we’ve played supposedly decent L1 teams plus the squad we have. We’ll finish top 6 this year, no bother. I’m with Henry. We're never going to agree on L2. I also think we could surprise a few this season but there's a big jump from top half to POs to automatics, especially with the likes of Birmingham, Peterborough and Bolton.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 17, 2024 22:41:48 GMT
He's not though. It's more the way we press when 3-4-1-2 with Collar often pushing down the middle when the forwards split. When we have the ball he's deeper unless he makes one of his trademark breaks from midfield. Thought he showed his usual energy today but needed a bit more output on the ball where others took their game up a level. Not to say it wasn't a good performance by him though and he was excellent Saturday. That's why I said "almost". There were times in possession (in both league games) when we have Barry down the left, Diamond on the right, and Wootton and Collar through the middle as a four. We're not lining up like that but we are periodically playing like that, which is why I said "almost". I once again find myself having to repeat that we are incredibly fluid throughout games and phases of play. He's playing as blend of what I think of as a "number 10" from two different periods of my football supporting life. He's lining up as an attacking midfielder and that's ostensibly what he is (the modern number 10) but in attack he is (at times) the second striker alongside Wootton (what I thought of as a number 10 in the 90s and early 00s). He also tends to press in the forward line when we're defending in the opposition half. Did you say almost...?
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Post by ldjh79 on Aug 17, 2024 22:45:09 GMT
Its cruelty that we can't call him OURS
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Aug 17, 2024 22:45:59 GMT
That's why I said "almost". There were times in possession (in both league games) when we have Barry down the left, Diamond on the right, and Wootton and Collar through the middle as a four. We're not lining up like that but we are periodically playing like that, which is why I said "almost". I once again find myself having to repeat that we are incredibly fluid throughout games and phases of play. He's playing as blend of what I think of as a "number 10" from two different periods of my football supporting life. He's lining up as an attacking midfielder and that's ostensibly what he is (the modern number 10) but in attack he is (at times) the second striker alongside Wootton (what I thought of as a number 10 in the 90s and early 00s). He also tends to press in the forward line when we're defending in the opposition half. Did you say almost...?
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 17, 2024 22:50:33 GMT
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 17, 2024 23:18:20 GMT
Blackpool not upto much we look far more vulnerable trying to play out than going back to front we keep trying to play out but not very good at it, when we have pace and ball carriers up top winning 2nd ball and transitions have been far more successful for us in giving space for Barry and Diamond trying to be too intricate I’m with you unless there’s space. Invited them on then just going long. Don’t have the ball carriers deep. Should be using Wootton more and keep ming the likes of Diamond and Collar around him rather than coming short. Interesting listening to DC. Basically disagrees and thought we were too safe first half and told them to play it more and if that leads to goal that's on him. Very much the Pep style of inviting the press to then play through it and give your forward players more space. Made a point of saying that we recruitment-wise we've gone for 2 ball players at CM, not a destroyer, so we have to brave and play through them. Part of me agrees, and who am I to argue with DC?! But I did think we got the balance better vs Cambridge and direct to Wootton is such a powerful weapon too shown by the first goal vs Cambridge and third vs Blackpool. I also think Blackpool smothered us a lot better than Cambridge and at times we played out only for Horsfall or Pye to clip one long to an isolated Wootton as plahers had come short. That's probably where DC wanted us to be braver but it's high risk at L1. The confidence and build up ability from Camps and Bate together is exciting though. As good as Touray has started the season, some pace at LB/LWB and someone who can take on a man I think would help quite a bit to give us an outlet. Touray has been excellent defensively though and linked well on the ball.
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