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Post by chesterfieldhatter on Jul 30, 2024 13:48:41 GMT
Anything on Mellon yet? Heard a few suggesting it's a bad one
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Post by samscfc on Jul 30, 2024 16:28:06 GMT
It's farcical if we're stacked with injuries again. We've never, ever had this before. No idea what's causing them, and I get that there's always going to be some players out, but we can't be going into the season with so many out. People dismiss impact injuries as just one of those things, but are the players made of glass now? Why are they so susceptible to being our for months after a challenge? We leave plenty on opposition players and they're not out for months. Are we working the players too hard? Recovery periods aren't right? Is that why that Strength & Conditioning bloke left in the summer? Not expecting anybody to actually know the answer but this many players out, and consistently having a large number of players out, isn't just unlucky. I absolutely agree with this. I could be talking absolute bollocks, and if I am it won't be the first time but I am convinced this isn't just bad luck. There were only 2 outfield players last season that didn't have an injury in Madden and Horsfall. And the season is still 2 and a half weeks away and the following players have been injured Powell Mingi Connolly Tanto Fiorini Mellon Rydel Collar Fevrier? Didn't play the first few friendlies. Stretton - came back against Chester but not been seen again. I may even be missing some. This isn't normal.
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Post by mat1scfc on Jul 30, 2024 17:48:20 GMT
It's farcical if we're stacked with injuries again. We've never, ever had this before. No idea what's causing them, and I get that there's always going to be some players out, but we can't be going into the season with so many out. People dismiss impact injuries as just one of those things, but are the players made of glass now? Why are they so susceptible to being our for months after a challenge? We leave plenty on opposition players and they're not out for months. Are we working the players too hard? Recovery periods aren't right? Is that why that Strength & Conditioning bloke left in the summer? Not expecting anybody to actually know the answer but this many players out, and consistently having a large number of players out, isn't just unlucky. I absolutely agree with this. I could be talking absolute bollocks, and if I am it won't be the first time but I am convinced this isn't just bad luck. There were only 2 outfield players last season that didn't have an injury in Madden and Horsfall. And the season is still 2 and a half weeks away and the following players have been injured Powell Mingi Connolly Tanto Fiorini Mellon Rydel Collar Fevrier? Didn't play the first few friendlies. Stretton - came back against Chester but not been seen again. I may even be missing some. This isn't normal. for me its not only that weve got injurys Rydel Southam hales Tanto Powell Mingi None of the above played a single minute of football. Mingi is should be available for the winger so hopefully hes back for good. Southam hales is latest Christmas time. Olaofe at the end of pre season/may miss 1 or 2 league games. No word on powell,mellon, rydel or Stretton
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Post by tgttiw on Jul 31, 2024 8:30:51 GMT
I think changing styles of play could have something to do with it. High Pressing is far more demanding these days and you can spend a fair amount of time at somewhere near full tilt. I remember when klopp first went to Liverpool and introduced the high press he said that the players needed to work at it because they weren't fit enough to do it properly. I also agree with the over analysing knocks. It's never a game or two, it always seems to start at 6 weeks minimum. Listen to the old pros and they seldom took the field feeling 100 %. Could be clubs are pushing players far too much in the hope of gaining an edge through fitness. If this was just us and a couple of other clubs then you,d could say its just bad luck or having a few injury prone lads on their books. Its across the whole of football including the NL where this is happening. The teams who come out of this the best are the ones with a strong strength in depth and those who are injured long term as easier ones to replace. Actually where would we have finished last season if Horsfall had been out for the end of the season and Paddy after january. We have looked into this and expect others have done the same but without real answers. Under jim we never really had bad injuries. Other than Stephenson. On the other hand though he did look like we were physically hanging on in games e.g. fylde away, fylde home Barrow home (stages of the season when we played twice a week for several weeks) but that could be down to the hybrid model.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Jul 31, 2024 10:10:43 GMT
I think things have been worsened by us signing some quality, but injury prone, players like Powell that have dropped down the leagues for that reason. Then players coming off long term injuries are going to be a risk of complications/niggles on return - which is most of our squad after last season.
I do wonder but we've put so much work in behind in the scenes, I'm confident we're doing all that we can.
I wouldn't mind an update on who is out and for how long though...
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 31, 2024 10:30:27 GMT
I think things have been worsened by us signing some quality, but injury prone, players like Powell that have dropped down the leagues for that reason. Then players coming off long term injuries are going to be a risk of complications/niggles on return - which is most of our squad after last season. I do wonder but we've put so much work in behind in the scenes, I'm confident we're doing all that we can. I wouldn't mind an update on who is out and for how long though... Still feel there is more to it than a players past. If we were the only ones this is happening to i,d have to agree. Way things are panning out there will not be many players available without an injury record.
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Post by mat1scfc on Jul 31, 2024 10:33:15 GMT
I think things have been worsened by us signing some quality, but injury prone, players like Powell that have dropped down the leagues for that reason. Then players coming off long term injuries are going to be a risk of complications/niggles on return - which is most of our squad after last season. I do wonder but we've put so much work in behind in the scenes, I'm confident we're doing all that we can. I wouldn't mind an update on who is out and for how long though... i dont really have anything to back it up but i remember when we signed mingi there were a few comments that hes been abit injury prone. Nearly 24 and 5 seasons in mens football and hes not played more than 30 games in a season but some of that may be down to abilty
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Post by albybeliever on Jul 31, 2024 10:43:49 GMT
I think things have been worsened by us signing some quality, but injury prone, players like Powell that have dropped down the leagues for that reason. Then players coming off long term injuries are going to be a risk of complications/niggles on return - which is most of our squad after last season. I do wonder but we've put so much work in behind in the scenes, I'm confident we're doing all that we can. I wouldn't mind an update on who is out and for how long though... Didn’t we explicitly say in one interview that we were signing talented players who were seen as injury prone, on the basis they’re good value and our medical and training facilities were so good that they’d reduce the number of injuries they got. I’m 99% sure we said that officially, which sounded mad at the time and even more so now.
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Post by mat1scfc on Jul 31, 2024 10:56:40 GMT
I think things have been worsened by us signing some quality, but injury prone, players like Powell that have dropped down the leagues for that reason. Then players coming off long term injuries are going to be a risk of complications/niggles on return - which is most of our squad after last season. I do wonder but we've put so much work in behind in the scenes, I'm confident we're doing all that we can. I wouldn't mind an update on who is out and for how long though... Didn’t we explicitly say in one interview that we were signing talented players who were seen as injury prone, on the basis they’re good value and our medical and training facilities were so good that they’d reduce the number of injuries they got. I’m 99% sure we said that officially, which sounded mad at the time and even more so now. it was in the description when we signed Stretton. Stretton had a calf injury that had him out for a few weeks when he signed and since then hes been out for a year and then played 1 game and got injured again...
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Jul 31, 2024 11:06:13 GMT
I think things have been worsened by us signing some quality, but injury prone, players like Powell that have dropped down the leagues for that reason. Then players coming off long term injuries are going to be a risk of complications/niggles on return - which is most of our squad after last season. I do wonder but we've put so much work in behind in the scenes, I'm confident we're doing all that we can. I wouldn't mind an update on who is out and for how long though... Didn’t we explicitly say in one interview that we were signing talented players who were seen as injury prone, on the basis they’re good value and our medical and training facilities were so good that they’d reduce the number of injuries they got. I’m 99% sure we said that officially, which sounded mad at the time and even more so now. Did we...? That's a bold strategy.
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Post by hatonwold on Jul 31, 2024 11:22:11 GMT
Didn’t we explicitly say in one interview that we were signing talented players who were seen as injury prone, on the basis they’re good value and our medical and training facilities were so good that they’d reduce the number of injuries they got. I’m 99% sure we said that officially, which sounded mad at the time and even more so now. it was in the description when we signed Stretton. Stretton had a calf injury that had him out for a few weeks when he signed and since then hes been out for a year and then played 1 game and got injured again... I don't think it was mentioned? I seem to remember DC said something about wanting to get him fit again but nothing along the lines of the strategy outlined above. Happy to be proven wrong, but if that's the strategy we're taking then surely we wouldn't be so naive to state that publicly.
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Post by mat1scfc on Jul 31, 2024 11:43:16 GMT
it was in the description when we signed Stretton. Stretton had a calf injury that had him out for a few weeks when he signed and since then hes been out for a year and then played 1 game and got injured again... I don't think it was mentioned? I seem to remember DC said something about wanting to get him fit again but nothing along the lines of the strategy outlined above. Happy to be proven wrong, but if that's the strategy we're taking then surely we wouldn't be so naive to state that publicly. ive just checked for when we signed stretton and olaofe but its not there but im with alby. Its probably in a wilson interview of which im not sitting im watching them all again 😂
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Post by desmond on Jul 31, 2024 12:22:20 GMT
I don't think it was mentioned? I seem to remember DC said something about wanting to get him fit again but nothing along the lines of the strategy outlined above. Happy to be proven wrong, but if that's the strategy we're taking then surely we wouldn't be so naive to state that publicly. ive just checked for when we signed stretton and olaofe but its not there but im with alby. Its probably in a wilson interview of which im not sitting im watching them all again 😂 Pretty sure something along those lines was said, probably more about the odd opportunity being there with the right player, but seems to have become a thing with many of our signings.
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Post by vicar on Jul 31, 2024 19:06:18 GMT
I think things have been worsened by us signing some quality, but injury prone, players like Powell that have dropped down the leagues for that reason. Then players coming off long term injuries are going to be a risk of complications/niggles on return - which is most of our squad after last season. I do wonder but we've put so much work in behind in the scenes, I'm confident we're doing all that we can. I wouldn't mind an update on who is out and for how long though... Didn’t we explicitly say in one interview that we were signing talented players who were seen as injury prone, on the basis they’re good value and our medical and training facilities were so good that they’d reduce the number of injuries they got. I’m 99% sure we said that officially, which sounded mad at the time and even more so now. I doubt that as we'd never have heard the last of it on here, however last time I doubted something on here it took a matter of minutes to prove me wrong.
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Post by albybeliever on Jul 31, 2024 20:05:13 GMT
Didn’t we explicitly say in one interview that we were signing talented players who were seen as injury prone, on the basis they’re good value and our medical and training facilities were so good that they’d reduce the number of injuries they got. I’m 99% sure we said that officially, which sounded mad at the time and even more so now. I doubt that as we'd never have heard the last of it on here, however last time I doubted something on here it took a matter of minutes to prove me wrong. Haha we definitely said it and I’m fairly sure it was Simon Wilson, but I can’t remember if it was a fairly limited case (discussed in relation to 1-2 specific additions) or more of a general policy.
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