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Post by edinburghhatter on Nov 19, 2020 15:02:29 GMT
honestly i just cannot see that happening. wonder if any long distance exiles who really just do away games bother attending another club on a regular basis. there will be a decent number of regulars who live in another town a reasonable distance from EP who have not bought into their new local club. halifax is more or less my nearest local club where i go twice a season, once to see us and possibly hartlepool if we are not at home or close to EP. I agree up to a point. Once it's in the blood... I've been a County fan for almost 60 years, but have lived 250 miles away for the last 52 of those. So I rarely see County at EP these days, and only occasionally at those away games that are within reach (currently not many!)
Living where I do, I could easily have bought into perennial also-rans Hibs or Hearts, but haven't: as a student up here, I occasionally watched both years ago, but it's 25 years since I went to a Hearts game, and at least 10 since seeing the Hibees live.
Leaving aside the underlying political/religious blight on the Scottish game (thankfully not quite as prevalent here as it is in the west of Scotland), I've actually found it preferable to watch random games across the local area... teams like Edinburgh City, Spartans and several other lower-league outfits. Their grounds may often be a bit basic (though recently there have been some very noticeable improvements, as clubs strive to reap the benefits of becoming "licensed") but above all the smaller clubs are uniformly welcoming: when you usually only get 300 or so fans to watch you, you do everything possible to retain their patronage.
And the pies (almost invariably supplied by the local butcher) are generally very tasty!
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Post by Bredburyhatter on Nov 19, 2020 21:44:19 GMT
honestly i just cannot see that happening. wonder if any long distance exiles who really just do away games bother attending another club on a regular basis. there will be a decent number of regulars who live in another town a reasonable distance from EP who have not bought into their new local club. halifax is more or less my nearest local club where i go twice a season, once to see us and possibly hartlepool if we are not at home or close to EP. You might not, but someone else might, especially if they have say children or it's a long way back to their first love. If say you're an Ipswich fan but life takes you to Stockport, you settle here, have kids - they want to go to a Football game/you want to take them to one - do you all schlep over to Ipswich, or do you go to EP, you're not a fan but it's local and it's a game. For similar reasons I would love us to do a proper student night and game a couple of times a season - advertise it and arrange it properly to both college and university students in Manchester, Stockport and surrounds. Don't be like the last time we tried - half-arsed, when we were shit in the pitch, with crap atmosphere, and they could come for a fiver but had to sit in the railway end. Sheffield United used to do it, one of their first midweek home games of the season- very early in the student year, new students still in that exploring the city phase, NUS, get in for a fiver. They'd then do a follow up game on a Saturday in about February or March. This should have implications short, medium, long-term. Short term you get people in for that game. Medium term there's the possibility some might come back to the odd game whilst they are students. Long-term students often settle in/near their university town and round here that includes particularly Stockport and South Manchester - if they do and have children there is a possibility they might take the children and the children become County fans. And why not, in the area aside from City and Utd at who is there? Oldham, Rochdale, Bury, Alty, Macc, Wigan, Bolton - we'll be as high or higher than most/all of them within 4 or 5 years probably. And Stockport has the best transport links to Manchester, especially the student areas - trains from Piccadilly, Deansgate, Oxford Road, the 42, the 192, tram coming along possibly. For me it's a no-brainer and something the club should definitely look at. That is great idea, because we all know the atmosphere at EP is going to be electric when we are finally allowed back in the ground. This will give people the bug(not the virus!!), along with the team we have now, then they are likely to watch a team that will win a lot more games than they will lose, and obviously makes people want to come back. Tickets for Man City and United are hard to get, so with Bolton being a bit poo at the mo, then we are such a great attraction to any new fans coming to the Manchester region, for decent football/entertainment.
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Post by trickster on Nov 19, 2020 21:56:33 GMT
You might not, but someone else might, especially if they have say children or it's a long way back to their first love. If say you're an Ipswich fan but life takes you to Stockport, you settle here, have kids - they want to go to a Football game/you want to take them to one - do you all schlep over to Ipswich, or do you go to EP, you're not a fan but it's local and it's a game. For similar reasons I would love us to do a proper student night and game a couple of times a season - advertise it and arrange it properly to both college and university students in Manchester, Stockport and surrounds. Don't be like the last time we tried - half-arsed, when we were shit in the pitch, with crap atmosphere, and they could come for a fiver but had to sit in the railway end. Sheffield United used to do it, one of their first midweek home games of the season- very early in the student year, new students still in that exploring the city phase, NUS, get in for a fiver. They'd then do a follow up game on a Saturday in about February or March. This should have implications short, medium, long-term. Short term you get people in for that game. Medium term there's the possibility some might come back to the odd game whilst they are students. Long-term students often settle in/near their university town and round here that includes particularly Stockport and South Manchester - if they do and have children there is a possibility they might take the children and the children become County fans. And why not, in the area aside from City and Utd at who is there? Oldham, Rochdale, Bury, Alty, Macc, Wigan, Bolton - we'll be as high or higher than most/all of them within 4 or 5 years probably. And Stockport has the best transport links to Manchester, especially the student areas - trains from Piccadilly, Deansgate, Oxford Road, the 42, the 192, tram coming along possibly. For me it's a no-brainer and something the club should definitely look at. That is great idea, because we all know the atmosphere at EP is going to be electric when we are finally allowed back in the ground. This will give people the bug(not the virus!!), along with the team we have now, then they are likely to watch a team that will win a lot more games than they will lose, and obviously makes people want to come back. Tickets for Man City and United are hard to get, so with Bolton being a bit poo at the mo, then we are such a great attraction to any new fans coming to the Manchester region, for decent football/entertainment. We'll give them the bug AND the virus. And they'll like it.
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Post by PSP on Nov 19, 2020 23:18:45 GMT
COUNTY-21 virus
Go to EP / Support County / Great Times
Sure somebody can improve on that effort.
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Post by stalybridgehatter on Nov 19, 2020 23:24:08 GMT
honestly i just cannot see that happening. wonder if any long distance exiles who really just do away games bother attending another club on a regular basis. there will be a decent number of regulars who live in another town a reasonable distance from EP who have not bought into their new local club. halifax is more or less my nearest local club where i go twice a season, once to see us and possibly hartlepool if we are not at home or close to EP. You might not, but someone else might, especially if they have say children or it's a long way back to their first love. If say you're an Ipswich fan but life takes you to Stockport, you settle here, have kids - they want to go to a Football game/you want to take them to one - do you all schlep over to Ipswich, or do you go to EP, you're not a fan but it's local and it's a game. For similar reasons I would love us to do a proper student night and game a couple of times a season - advertise it and arrange it properly to both college and university students in Manchester, Stockport and surrounds. Don't be like the last time we tried - half-arsed, when we were shit in the pitch, with crap atmosphere, and they could come for a fiver but had to sit in the railway end. Sheffield United used to do it, one of their first midweek home games of the season- very early in the student year, new students still in that exploring the city phase, NUS, get in for a fiver. They'd then do a follow up game on a Saturday in about February or March. This should have implications short, medium, long-term. Short term you get people in for that game. Medium term there's the possibility some might come back to the odd game whilst they are students. Long-term students often settle in/near their university town and round here that includes particularly Stockport and South Manchester - if they do and have children there is a possibility they might take the children and the children become County fans. And why not, in the area aside from City and Utd at who is there? Oldham, Rochdale, Bury, Alty, Macc, Wigan, Bolton - we'll be as high or higher than most/all of them within 4 or 5 years probably. And Stockport has the best transport links to Manchester, especially the student areas - trains from Piccadilly, Deansgate, Oxford Road, the 42, the 192, tram coming along possibly. For me it's a no-brainer and something the club should definitely look at. Had my family stayed in Cornwall, me and my eldest would have been going to Truro City on a regular basis!
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Post by Count de Stockport on Nov 20, 2020 8:24:36 GMT
COUNTY-21 virus Go to EP / Support County / Great Times Sure somebody can improve on that effort. Get drunk - Sing songs - Laugh at Citeh
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Post by PSP on Nov 20, 2020 8:25:58 GMT
😂😂😂😂 Wonderful
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Post by timberwolf on Nov 20, 2020 8:26:19 GMT
Had my family stayed in Cornwall, me and my eldest would have been going to Truro City on a regular basis! you might but i,d swerve it for sure. the only time i was a real exile was 7 years in hemsby in norfolk. only did a handful of games beteen oct.2003 and the start of 2010.11 season. i know i took refereeing more seriously in those years but i can honestly say i never went to any local football ground to watch a live game. however i,m completely in aggreement with imposter regarding his idea about students. if County were lucky just to do it on one of those games like the halifax one last season where everything clicked for us i,m sure they,d be back.
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Post by tgttiw on Nov 20, 2020 12:44:32 GMT
Had my family stayed in Cornwall, me and my eldest would have been going to Truro City on a regular basis! you might but i,d swerve it for sure. the only time i was a real exile was 7 years in hemsby in norfolk. only did a handful of games beteen oct.2003 and the start of 2010.11 season. i know i took refereeing more seriously in those years but i can honestly say i never went to any local football ground to watch a live game. however i,m completely in aggreement with imposter regarding his idea about students. if County were lucky just to do it on one of those games like the halifax one last season where everything clicked for us i,m sure they,d be back. When I was a student in Coventry they were then at highfield road and until my last term premier league. When they played a Monday/ Sunday tv game which was one of those contractual ones rather than playing a big club they would let the students in for a fiver. It was ideal the ground was in the student area and it drummed up interest. Although the majority of the students stayed committed to the clubs they supported when they arrived. Only one friend who stayed local follows cov now. I think we should aim at school kids and youth football teams. Students are parochial and don't generally travel outside their locations much.
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Post by DaveLong79 on Nov 20, 2020 13:52:29 GMT
honestly i just cannot see that happening. wonder if any long distance exiles who really just do away games bother attending another club on a regular basis. there will be a decent number of regulars who live in another town a reasonable distance from EP who have not bought into their new local club. halifax is more or less my nearest local club where i go twice a season, once to see us and possibly hartlepool if we are not at home or close to EP. I agree up to a point. Once it's in the blood... I've been a County fan for almost 60 years, but have lived 250 miles away for the last 52 of those. So I rarely see County at EP these days, and only occasionally at those away games that are within reach (currently not many!)
Living where I do, I could easily have bought into perennial also-rans Hibs or Hearts, but haven't: as a student up here, I occasionally watched both years ago, but it's 25 years since I went to a Hearts game, and at least 10 since seeing the Hibees live.
Leaving aside the underlying political/religious blight on the Scottish game (thankfully not quite as prevalent here as it is in the west of Scotland), I've actually found it preferable to watch random games across the local area... teams like Edinburgh City, Spartans and several other lower-league outfits. Their grounds may often be a bit basic (though recently there have been some very noticeable improvements, as clubs strive to reap the benefits of becoming "licensed") but above all the smaller clubs are uniformly welcoming: when you usually only get 300 or so fans to watch you, you do everything possible to retain their patronage.
And the pies (almost invariably supplied by the local butcher) are generally very tasty! My maternal Gran was from Auchinleck and so supported Auchinleck Talbot, my Grandad was from Portobello, but was a Hearts fan (must have been fun growing up round there and being a Hearts fan!). He used to to tell me stories about following them when he was in his teens and 20s - 1950s and 60s. Closest I've been to a game up there was a tour of Celtic Park and their museum in the early 90s. 8.5.2
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Post by HTC on Nov 20, 2020 14:02:31 GMT
I think there’s still some mileage to be had with the ‘against modern football’ idea from a few years back.
Supporting us rather than City / Utd ties in with the whole shop locally / avoid big corporations / real life community, rather than online / participant, rather than consumer etc. trends of the moment, and with some clever marketing (yes, I also see the irony) we could tap into that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2020 14:07:45 GMT
Had my family stayed in Cornwall, me and my eldest would have been going to Truro City on a regular basis! you might but i,d swerve it for sure. the only time i was a real exile was 7 years in hemsby in norfolk. only did a handful of games beteen oct.2003 and the start of 2010.11 season. i know i took refereeing more seriously in those years but i can honestly say i never went to any local football ground to watch a live game. however i,m completely in aggreement with imposter regarding his idea about students. if County were lucky just to do it on one of those games like the halifax one last season where everything clicked for us i,m sure they,d be back. Blimey, Good old Hemsby. I know the place well. After going there regularly on holiday for many years, a few years back we bought a chalet on the ‘Sundowner’. What A lovely place, where abouts was you? Did you drink in the locals there like the Lacon arms or the like? We’ve Two young kids so the whole ‘Mr B’s’ and Beach road is perfect. Also my mother nearly bought a place close to the Marhams just before the huge storm a few years back the washed a lot of them away.
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Post by Imposter on Nov 20, 2020 15:06:59 GMT
you might but i,d swerve it for sure. the only time i was a real exile was 7 years in hemsby in norfolk. only did a handful of games beteen oct.2003 and the start of 2010.11 season. i know i took refereeing more seriously in those years but i can honestly say i never went to any local football ground to watch a live game. however i,m completely in aggreement with imposter regarding his idea about students. if County were lucky just to do it on one of those games like the halifax one last season where everything clicked for us i,m sure they,d be back. When I was a student in Coventry they were then at highfield road and until my last term premier league. When they played a Monday/ Sunday tv game which was one of those contractual ones rather than playing a big club they would let the students in for a fiver. It was ideal the ground was in the student area and it drummed up interest. Although the majority of the students stayed committed to the clubs they supported when they arrived. Only one friend who stayed local follows cov now. I think we should aim at school kids and youth football teams. Students are parochial and don't generally travel outside their locations much. I think we should do both along with other stuff. It plants the idea of going to County into their heads. No one is saying many, if any of them will become full on County fans - but they might go to the odd game with their mates, all of whom might have different allegiances. Not only are we a good standard and easy enough to get to, we're also "inoffensive" in a way, I can see a lot would think of going to City or Utd as cheating on their first love, but Stockport " what truck do I have with them?". Plus there is the longer term prospect that a lot of students do settle in and around South Manchester and Stockport - and might then think about County when it comes to taking kids to a Football game. A dad or mum might be a fan of Exeter or Wolves or Arsenal or Portsmouth or whoever- but time, money, family commitments might mean it's just not possible or practicable to go back there all the time for football, but County's local they've been a few times as a student, so they take the kids to County. Who knows maybe Mum and/or dad even get s season ticket along with the kids - they won't stop being a Boston or Sunderland, or whoever fan - but the kids will likely grow up dedicated County fans. And it's not like we're abandoning other projects to do this, or doing it all the time - it's once or twice a season. We should always be looking for opportunities and ways to increase our fanbase and diversify it. Other options could include an official club presence at Stockport Pride and an annual Pride Match. There are LGBT groups in both Stockport and Manchester we could invite, both those aimed at youth groups, but also those aimed at LGBT sports/Football fans/players. We could deck the place out with rainbows and invite a suitable charity to do the bucket collection that day (e.g. the Albert Kennedy Trust). We could also make something of Black History Month. Have an exhibition in the museum focusing on the contribution of BAME players and managers - Palmer, Singh, Francis, Preece, Wharton, etc... Again invite BAME communnity/social groups and have a suitable bucket collection partner for the day (say the Sickle Cell charity for example). These are just two examples off the top of my head. And all 3 should be in addition to and complement the existing work the community foundation do, the free tickets for school kids, and the free tickets for youth sport and social groups. They shouldn't replace or be in competition.
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on Nov 20, 2020 15:15:59 GMT
When I was a student in Coventry they were then at highfield road and until my last term premier league. When they played a Monday/ Sunday tv game which was one of those contractual ones rather than playing a big club they would let the students in for a fiver. It was ideal the ground was in the student area and it drummed up interest. Although the majority of the students stayed committed to the clubs they supported when they arrived. Only one friend who stayed local follows cov now. I think we should aim at school kids and youth football teams. Students are parochial and don't generally travel outside their locations much. I think we should do both along with other stuff. It plants the idea of going to County into their heads. No one is saying many, if any of them will become full on County fans - but they might go to the odd game with their mates, all of whom might have different allegiances. Not only are we a good standard and easy enough to get to, we're also "inoffensive" in a way, I can see a lot would think of going to City or Utd as cheating on their first love, but Stockport " what truck do I have with them?". Plus there is the longer term prospect that a lot of students do settle in and around South Manchester and Stockport - and might then think about County when it comes to taking kids to a Football game. A dad or mum might be a fan of Exeter or Wolves or Arsenal or Portsmouth or whoever- but time, money, family commitments might mean it's just not possible or practicable to go back there all the time for football, but County's local they've been a few times as a student, so they take the kids to County. Who knows maybe Mum and/or dad even get s season ticket along with the kids - they won't stop being a Boston or Sunderland, or whoever fan - but the kids will likely grow up dedicated County fans. And it's not like we're abandoning other projects to do this, or doing it all the time - it's once or twice a season. We should always be looking for opportunities and ways to increase our fanbase and diversify it. Other options could include an official club presence at Stockport Pride and an annual Pride Match. There are LGBT groups in both Stockport and Manchester we could invite, both those aimed at youth groups, but also those aimed at LGBT sports/Football fans/players. We could deck the place out with rainbows and invite a suitable charity to do the bucket collection that day (e.g. the Albert Kennedy Trust). We could also make something of Black History Month. Have an exhibition in the museum focusing on the contribution of BAME players and managers - Palmer, Singh, Francis, Preece, Wharton, etc... Again invite BAME communnity/social groups and have a suitable bucket collection partner for the day (say the Sickle Cell charity for example). These are just two examples off the top of my head. And all 3 should be in addition to and complement the existing work the community foundation do, the free tickets for school kids, and the free tickets for youth sport and social groups. They shouldn't replace or be in competition. Really hope someone from the club sees this and puts it all into action.
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Post by vicar on Nov 20, 2020 16:29:46 GMT
I think we should do both along with other stuff. It plants the idea of going to County into their heads. No one is saying many, if any of them will become full on County fans - but they might go to the odd game with their mates, all of whom might have different allegiances. Not only are we a good standard and easy enough to get to, we're also "inoffensive" in a way, I can see a lot would think of going to City or Utd as cheating on their first love, but Stockport " what truck do I have with them?". Plus there is the longer term prospect that a lot of students do settle in and around South Manchester and Stockport - and might then think about County when it comes to taking kids to a Football game. A dad or mum might be a fan of Exeter or Wolves or Arsenal or Portsmouth or whoever- but time, money, family commitments might mean it's just not possible or practicable to go back there all the time for football, but County's local they've been a few times as a student, so they take the kids to County. Who knows maybe Mum and/or dad even get s season ticket along with the kids - they won't stop being a Boston or Sunderland, or whoever fan - but the kids will likely grow up dedicated County fans. And it's not like we're abandoning other projects to do this, or doing it all the time - it's once or twice a season. We should always be looking for opportunities and ways to increase our fanbase and diversify it. Other options could include an official club presence at Stockport Pride and an annual Pride Match. There are LGBT groups in both Stockport and Manchester we could invite, both those aimed at youth groups, but also those aimed at LGBT sports/Football fans/players. We could deck the place out with rainbows and invite a suitable charity to do the bucket collection that day (e.g. the Albert Kennedy Trust). We could also make something of Black History Month. Have an exhibition in the museum focusing on the contribution of BAME players and managers - Palmer, Singh, Francis, Preece, Wharton, etc... Again invite BAME communnity/social groups and have a suitable bucket collection partner for the day (say the Sickle Cell charity for example). These are just two examples off the top of my head. And all 3 should be in addition to and complement the existing work the community foundation do, the free tickets for school kids, and the free tickets for youth sport and social groups. They shouldn't replace or be in competition. Really hope someone from the club sees this and puts it all into action. I'd like to see the Co-op take this up with the club.
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