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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 17:43:00 GMT
I agree Mozzer. Which Stockport County message board we use going forward isn’t a big deal really is it.... The only thing I disagreed on was the fact that it was forced upon us. I made my mind up after only 2 days it wasn't for me, so now I wait weeks before I can return to the board I like. I honestly cannot think that admin are thinking, "lets make it three weeks they will soon change their mind". Each to their own I guess, kudos for admin for giving it a go, but I imagine not just me others also made their mind up very quickly it was not for them. For regular posters on here good for you, stay and enjoy. As TRE said, logged on, tried it, posted, not forcing or asking anyone else to move back, personal choice and all that.
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Post by Nik on May 31, 2020 19:56:17 GMT
I agree Mozzer. Which Stockport County message board we use going forward isn’t a big deal really is it.... The only thing I disagreed on was the fact that it was forced upon us. I made my mind up after only 2 days it wasn't for me, so now I wait weeks before I can return to the board I like. You'd already made your mind up before the old board was suspended, to be fair: members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/msg/1589738348.html
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Post by bigmartin on May 31, 2020 22:45:19 GMT
The only thing I disagreed on was the fact that it was forced upon us. I made my mind up after only 2 days it wasn't for me, so now I wait weeks before I can return to the board I like. You'd already made your mind up before the old board was suspended, to be fair: members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/msg/1589738348.htmlUff. Burned.
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Post by CB1883 on May 31, 2020 22:45:36 GMT
I can’t remember giving this a go last time before it was no longer there. The 3 week trial with the other board closed has made all the difference. This giving everyone a chance to see what this place offers and get a feel of what it would be like to post here regularly. That has certainly won me over. Going forward I suspect I will now only lurk there but post here unless there’s a significant migration of posters back to the old board. I think its been live here for about 7 years and has many many registered users so its not new. The opportunity to use this site has always been there and for many, as it seems for you as well, they love its far superior "technology" . Fact is many dont like the features and advantages of the technology therefore its no benefit to them and they will not use it in future they will use the old site for their own personal reasons.Im equally sure that many will use both sites, lurkers and posters, and the useage, specifically the number of messages posted as opposed to views of each site will be determined by the quality and interesting nature of the topics people post for discussion and no doubt argument. This board is simple to navigate and pick up on both the desktop view and mobile view. If you’re saying people like MMB due to the bog standard nature of it, this is just as straight forward but does much more with very little effort. If anyone is unsure on how to do certain things there’s plenty of people to point them in the right direction or to guide them through it as we’ve seen already.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 23:20:16 GMT
What are we really missing? The childish replacement of Dung to anyone that writes red? The use of MASSIVE in front of anything describing County? Bounab as an option in polls? Calling a Marsden because if you haven’t logged on for one day a post will have disappeared on to page 4 or 5. Wow let’s go back for that? The old Yellowboard was getting really boring and infuriating to read. Keep both open so they still have a place to post but really people will move back for all that? I think getting used to this board will make it nigh on impossible to go back and use that host. No disrespect meant to anyone I just find it daft to stay with that format over this one. To go back over a handful of posters is madness. Sorry but you really don't understand, and people wont be forced to go back over a "handful" of posters, we had a poll on the old board were a majority was shown for not changing it
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 23:29:42 GMT
The them and us situation has come about due to how the reaction to the trial was handled by those posters. The one community moving and trialling together could have happened without the fallout. Then the community would decide where we post. Flat out refusing to trial (their choice) but the manner of their responses has meant I won’t go back. Why follow such close minded opinion? It’s one thing trying something and not liking it but to not try and then abuse? Nah not for me. Not quite right, I for one have posted on here, but I still prefer the real YB. And the biggest problem came from being told that we must trial the new board and to make us do so the old board was closed down, you will find those will be the people who have stood their ground and not tried this version on a matter of principle, and to be fair I fully understand their stance. It also doesnt help matters when the constant use of mardarses, dinosaurs, toys thrown out of pram etc is thrown at some posters for saying their bit, and no, I dont mean whoever called TRE and Suede nazis in an email was right to do so.
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Post by Philcounty on Jun 1, 2020 1:06:16 GMT
You're not wrong, it has stayed near the top 😂
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Post by Imposter on Jun 1, 2020 1:07:43 GMT
What are we really missing? The childish replacement of Dung to anyone that writes red? The use of MASSIVE in front of anything describing County? Bounab as an option in polls? Calling a Marsden because if you haven’t logged on for one day a post will have disappeared on to page 4 or 5. Wow let’s go back for that? The old Yellowboard was getting really boring and infuriating to read. Keep both open so they still have a place to post but really people will move back for all that? I think getting used to this board will make it nigh on impossible to go back and use that host. No disrespect meant to anyone I just find it daft to stay with that format over this one. To go back over a handful of posters is madness. Sorry but you really don't understand, and people wont be forced to go back over a "handful" of posters, we had a poll on the old board were a majority was shown for not changing it That was not what the vote was for. The vote was whether to keep the changes made to Marionsboard or whether to revert to it's normal state. There was no vote over whether to suspend Marionsboard or not.
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Post by Nik on Jun 1, 2020 6:48:30 GMT
But you know full well it isn't about people having their say, it's how they have their say. After a quick scan down the front page, here are a couple of examples. Firstly, a reaction from yourself: members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/msg/1589822558.htmlYou can say your bit without resorting to childish and, frankly, mard reactions. And here is the shining example of mard reactions: members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/msg/1589750517.htmlThose are two of many, many examples of people majorly seeing their arse over it. I'm afraid that those who strongly oppose this board move are on very thin ice when highlighting things you don't think help matters. You can say " I'm not saying those calling admin Nazis were right" but these people are the ones who support your viewpoint of this board and the trial. It wasn't just via email either, as there were littered references on the old board and also the first post of this thread where people were calling them Nazis and fascists which is f*cking embarrassing. I think it's safe to say that of the two opposing sides of this argument, one has clearly overstepped the mark.
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Post by scarf on Jun 1, 2020 7:47:05 GMT
But you know full well it isn't about people having their say, it's how they have their say. After a quick scan down the front page, here are a couple of examples. Firstly, a reaction from yourself: members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/msg/1589822558.htmlYou can say your bit without resorting to childish and, frankly, mard reactions. And here is the shining example of mard reactions: members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/msg/1589750517.htmlThose are two of many, many examples of people majorly seeing their arse over it. I'm afraid that those who strongly oppose this board move are on very thin ice when highlighting things you don't think help matters. You can say " I'm not saying those calling admin Nazis were right" but these people are the ones who support your viewpoint of this board and the trial. It wasn't just via email either, as there were littered references on the old board and also the first post of this thread where people were calling them Nazis and fascists which is f*cking embarrassing. I think it's safe to say that of the two opposing sides of this argument, one has clearly overstepped the mark. Interesting viewpoint. I would say both sides are guilty of this. Sure, it’s more obvious when you’re talking about the language you’ve outlined above, but I’ve seen plenty instances of language like ‘pathetic’, ‘embarrassing’, ‘mardarse’ etc from the new board’ brigade instead of actually trying to understand why people feel as they do. I’ve used the analogy of moving to a new stadium before, and I’ll do so again. It has better features, but it doesn’t ‘feel’ the same. It’s a cultural thing. Roman pretty dismissively outlined some of the things on the old board, like MASSIVE etc - well, these have becomes cultural things that bind us together, in the same way that talking about goals or games do. The little things like that are what form a common. Identity, what make a community. That takes several years - maybe this place will acquire it one day, but it doesn’t have it yet in mi view. I also miss lots of the posters, who I haven’t seen on here. People like Caz, Mick, Phil, DB are people who are absolutely Instrumental in why I support County (along with several in here - Stranded, Imposter etc). When I joined MMMB, I didn’t really know anyone at County - I had one mate from school (who isn’t on the board) and that’s it. I’ve met several of my closest friends for life through that board. Especially as an exile who doesn’t see everyone so often anymore, that’s why it means a lot to me. A community without them in isn’t worth it to me, and I hate the way several posters on here have just dismissed them - not only are these long-time posters, but these are people who have given up thousands of hours volunteering, organising away trips, putting on band nights, working for the Co-Op etc. That’s worth something, in my view. In my life, everything has changed over the years (not a bad thing). MMMB is the one constant - like Ken Boxall at County. It’s only a bit of code on the Internet, sure, just like EP is only a field and some bricks. But it’s my internet ‘home’ in a way that this site just isn’t, and I suspect there are several people who feel forcibly evicted from their home, which is why you’re getting all of the anger. In the data-driven world we all live in now, it’s easy to underestimate the power of feelings. But feelings are what make communities, feelings are why we suppler County (pure logic would have us support a Prem team, as statistically they win more often) and feelings are what make us take actions in every part of our lives. I don’t dislike this board, but in the past 2 weeks I’ve really been missing ‘home’ (I’ve even been dreaming about it!). My ‘home’ might be old fashioned and lacking in mod cons, but it has a super comfy armchair with my name on it, and my mates will be there (actually especially important in these days or social distancing). Nice though this board is, this Hobbit can’t wait to go ‘home’.
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Post by timberwolf on Jun 1, 2020 7:51:34 GMT
Which Stockport County message board we use going forward isn’t a big deal really is it.... totally agree. my last post and view on this subject. bored with it .
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Post by Macc Hatter on Jun 1, 2020 7:57:20 GMT
But you know full well it isn't about people having their say, it's how they have their say. After a quick scan down the front page, here are a couple of examples. Firstly, a reaction from yourself: members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/msg/1589822558.htmlYou can say your bit without resorting to childish and, frankly, mard reactions. And here is the shining example of mard reactions: members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/msg/1589750517.htmlThose are two of many, many examples of people majorly seeing their arse over it. I'm afraid that those who strongly oppose this board move are on very thin ice when highlighting things you don't think help matters. You can say " I'm not saying those calling admin Nazis were right" but these people are the ones who support your viewpoint of this board and the trial. It wasn't just via email either, as there were littered references on the old board and also the first post of this thread where people were calling them Nazis and fascists which is f*cking embarrassing. I think it's safe to say that of the two opposing sides of this argument, one has clearly overstepped the mark. Interesting viewpoint. I would say both sides are guilty of this. Sure, it’s more obvious when you’re talking about the language you’ve outlined above, but I’ve seen plenty instances of language like ‘pathetic’, ‘embarrassing’, ‘mardarse’ etc from the new board’ brigade instead of actually trying to understand why people feel as they do. I’ve used the analogy of moving to a new stadium before, and I’ll do so again. It has better features, but it doesn’t ‘feel’ the same. It’s a cultural thing. Roman pretty dismissively outlined some of the things on the old board, like MASSIVE etc - well, these have becomes cultural things that bind us together, in the same way that talking about goals or games do. The little things like that are what form a common. Identity, what make a community. That takes several years - maybe this place will acquire it one day, but it doesn’t have it yet in mi view. I also miss lots of the posters, who I haven’t seen on here. People like Caz, Mick, Phil, DB are people who are absolutely Instrumental in why I support County (along with several in here - Stranded, Imposter etc). When I joined MMMB, I didn’t really know anyone at County - I had one mate from school (who isn’t on the board) and that’s it. I’ve met several of my closest friends for life through that board. Especially as an exile who doesn’t see everyone so often anymore, that’s why it means a lot to me. A community without them in isn’t worth it to me, and I hate the way several posters on here have just dismissed them - not only are these long-time posters, but these are people who have given up thousands of hours volunteering, organising away trips, putting on band nights, working for the Co-Op etc. That’s worth something, in my view. In my life, everything has changed over the years (not a bad thing). MMMB is the one constant - like Ken Boxall at County. It’s only a bit of code on the Internet, sure, just like EP is only a field and some bricks. But it’s my internet ‘home’ in a way that this site just isn’t, and I suspect there are several people who feel forcibly evicted from their home, which is why you’re getting all of the anger. In the data-driven world we all live in now, it’s easy to underestimate the power of feelings. But feelings are what make communities, feelings are why we suppler County (pure logic would have us support a Prem team, as statistically they win more often) and feelings are what make us take actions in every part of our lives. I don’t dislike this board, but in the past 2 weeks I’ve really been missing ‘home’ (I’ve even been dreaming about it!). My ‘home’ might be old fashioned and lacking in mod cons, but it has a super comfy armchair with my name on it, and my mates will be there (actually especially important in these days or social distancing). Nice though this board is, this Hobbit can’t wait to go ‘home’. Well said that man, my feelings exactly. Nothing wrong with this board, (apart from the way we've been railroaded on to it) but let me go home.
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Post by The Real Exile on Jun 1, 2020 8:01:54 GMT
Caz and Mick have been on.
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Post by Nik on Jun 1, 2020 8:12:36 GMT
But you know full well it isn't about people having their say, it's how they have their say. After a quick scan down the front page, here are a couple of examples. Firstly, a reaction from yourself: members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/msg/1589822558.htmlYou can say your bit without resorting to childish and, frankly, mard reactions. And here is the shining example of mard reactions: members3.boardhost.com/marionsboard/msg/1589750517.htmlThose are two of many, many examples of people majorly seeing their arse over it. I'm afraid that those who strongly oppose this board move are on very thin ice when highlighting things you don't think help matters. You can say " I'm not saying those calling admin Nazis were right" but these people are the ones who support your viewpoint of this board and the trial. It wasn't just via email either, as there were littered references on the old board and also the first post of this thread where people were calling them Nazis and fascists which is f*cking embarrassing. I think it's safe to say that of the two opposing sides of this argument, one has clearly overstepped the mark. Interesting viewpoint. I would say both sides are guilty of this. Sure, it’s more obvious when you’re talking about the language you’ve outlined above, but I’ve seen plenty instances of language like ‘pathetic’, ‘embarrassing’, ‘mardarse’ etc from the new board’ brigade instead of actually trying to understand why people feel as they do. I’ve used the analogy of moving to a new stadium before, and I’ll do so again. It has better features, but it doesn’t ‘feel’ the same. It’s a cultural thing. Roman pretty dismissively outlined some of the things on the old board, like MASSIVE etc - well, these have becomes cultural things that bind us together, in the same way that talking about goals or games do. The little things like that are what form a common. Identity, what make a community. That takes several years - maybe this place will acquire it one day, but it doesn’t have it yet in mi view. I also miss lots of the posters, who I haven’t seen on here. People like Caz, Mick, Phil, DB are people who are absolutely Instrumental in why I support County (along with several in here - Stranded, Imposter etc). When I joined MMMB, I didn’t really know anyone at County - I had one mate from school (who isn’t on the board) and that’s it. I’ve met several of my closest friends for life through that board. Especially as an exile who doesn’t see everyone so often anymore, that’s why it means a lot to me. A community without them in isn’t worth it to me, and I hate the way several posters on here have just dismissed them - not only are these long-time posters, but these are people who have given up thousands of hours volunteering, organising away trips, putting on band nights, working for the Co-Op etc. That’s worth something, in my view. In my life, everything has changed over the years (not a bad thing). MMMB is the one constant - like Ken Boxall at County. It’s only a bit of code on the Internet, sure, just like EP is only a field and some bricks. But it’s my internet ‘home’ in a way that this site just isn’t, and I suspect there are several people who feel forcibly evicted from their home, which is why you’re getting all of the anger. In the data-driven world we all live in now, it’s easy to underestimate the power of feelings. But feelings are what make communities, feelings are why we suppler County (pure logic would have us support a Prem team, as statistically they win more often) and feelings are what make us take actions in every part of our lives. I don’t dislike this board, but in the past 2 weeks I’ve really been missing ‘home’ (I’ve even been dreaming about it!). My ‘home’ might be old fashioned and lacking in mod cons, but it has a super comfy armchair with my name on it, and my mates will be there (actually especially important in these days or social distancing). Nice though this board is, this Hobbit can’t wait to go ‘home’. And that is exactly how you eloquently and thoughtfully express your viewpoint. I've got complete respect for viewpoints like that; I'm not on either side of the argument as I don't mind either board format personally as long as they stick to what they're good at, as the hybrid version that was trialled on the old board was terrible. Though what I will say is the language used that you have highlighted is in direct response to the types of post I highlighted. If anyone were to react like that to a post like yours then I'd find it entirely inappropriate. Tone is met by similar tone a lot of the time and that's why you'll find words like 'mard arse' and 'embarrassing' in response to virtual wobblers being thrown. It might not help the situation but when views are an entrenched and non-constructive as the ones that have been expressed then it's understandable, whereas posts like yours allow for a reasoned and respectful discussion.
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Post by scarf on Jun 1, 2020 8:13:04 GMT
Caz and Mick have been on. They must have posted in a thread I haven’t viewed, which kind of proves my point. No point in being in the same pub as your mates if you’re all in different rooms and can’t see one another. I’ve dried to outline how I feel I. The post above, not to antagonise anyone but to show why this stuff is imports at to some people, that, for some, it’s part of the fabric of our lives. I should add that I really like the fact we have a different messageboard than everyone else. I like that it’s unfashionable and a bit old and crusty - a big lime County! Moving to a Proboards site makes me feel like we’ve become just another set of fans, just another plastic football club, joined the Greedy League brigade. It’s an identity thing. I love everything about County that’s special, that’s different, that’s not like other clubs. MMMB is part of that for me, and moving to Proboards feels like giving up, selling out. Again, the board itself isn’t bad, but it’s generic to me. I know MMMB is objectively less advanced, but it’s still the place I call home.
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